There has been threads before about some vendors experienceing low sales. I was having slower sales but now they have hit an all time low. I'm not a top designer but I was having fairly regular sales but they have slow down to a drizzle now. Is anyone else having these issues.
I am open to any ideas/comments. Thanks.
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Sexy Partridge
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04-24-2007 10:06
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Colette Meiji
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04-24-2007 10:20
There has been threads before about some vendors experienceing low sales. I was having slower sales but now they have hit an all time low. I'm not a top designer but I was having fairly regular sales but they have slow down to a drizzle now. Is anyone else having these issues. I am open to any ideas/comments. Thanks. My sales are down .. they were way down , then picked back up then have gone somewhere in the middle. We havent had many stable days lately. Theres been a lot of billing problems with people buying Lindens. The PG/Mature ad issue. Theres even rumors of Professional server farm campers camping to make RL money (in china) probably taking good camp spots from regular camp zombies saving up to buy a new pair of shoes. None of these help  |
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Dirk Talamasca
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04-24-2007 10:24
OoO professional campers from China. Perhaps they are the ones selling cheap Lindens on Ebay.
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Mickey McLuhan
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04-24-2007 10:24
My sales are insanely low these days and have been for a while. Not sure why, but thank you Collette, for some insight on some possible reasons.
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Sexy Partridge
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04-24-2007 10:27
My sales of course help pay for my events and SL bills as with my mall vendors. Low sales are no good. Knock KNock lindes fix the things you can fix to improve things.
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Raymond Figtree
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04-24-2007 10:33
Sales of everything across the board, including land are down.
My "Five and a Half Factors" theory as to why: 1) There have been reports of people losing their inventories and not getting them back. This is undermining consumer confidence. 2) Search and teleport issues make it hard for your customers to find you. It also makes shopping a lot less fun. 3) There have been issues buying and selling Lindens. A lot of people's accounts are messed up financially with buying limits, credit card problems etc. 4) There are less people online these days. We hit a peak of 40K concurrent users a few weeks ago. Have not gotten back there since. There has not been a big article or a PR push lately that would get new users in the pipeline. Since SL seems to be unable to handle the load anyway, I'm not too upset about this particular fact. 5) Seasonality. We just got done with tax time in the US and now the weather is getting warmer. 5.5) Since they did away with first land, a lot of people are holding off on becoming premium members. Less people owning land means less people buying stuff to put on their land. The above is just my opinion. Of course, it also happens to be correct.  _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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04-24-2007 10:34
OoO professional campers from China. Perhaps they are the ones selling cheap Lindens on Ebay. The story goes a Chinese Virtual Game Mining place - The types who aquire WOW gold, etc. Approached a famous SL Tycoon who buys and sells Lindens about liquidating their Server farm camped Lindens. Of course this shouldnt be a surprise theres been Virtual World Farmers here in SL for 2 years now. Them adapting to the climate of unlimited accounts, multiple logons and Camping Zombie culture is just logical. |
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Colette Meiji
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04-24-2007 10:35
Sales of everything across the board, including land are down. My "Five and a Half Factors" theory as to why: 1) There have been reports of people losing their inventories and not getting them back. This is undermining consumer confidence. This is a big one here - Why buy stuff if your afraid youll lose it? |
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Ashlynn Dawn
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04-24-2007 10:40
This is also affecting home rentals, sad to say. People are unable to purchase the lindens to spend, rent, play with et all. I rent out a couple of sims simply to help pay for the one that my friends and I live/play on and I was used to putting up an ad for space and having it rented within a day. Its slowed down quite a bit, but I also associate that with people being able to afford land a bit easier with all the new land out there.
I also am a designer, and also like the OP, Im clearly not a top one but I was getting *some* sales. Lets all just hope these issues get fixed before more designers have to give up their land or rental spots because of lack of funding. I would hate to see LESS content creation because of all this. |
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Colette Meiji
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04-24-2007 10:43
This is also affecting home rentals, sad to say. People are unable to purchase the lindens to spend, rent, play with et all. I rent out a couple of sims simply to help pay for the one that my friends and I live/play on and I was used to putting up an ad for space and having it rented within a day. Its slowed down quite a bit, but I also associate that with people being able to afford land a bit easier with all the new land out there. I also am a designer, and also like the OP, Im clearly not a top one but I was getting *some* sales. Lets all just hope these issues get fixed before more designers have to give up their land or rental spots because of lack of funding. I would hate to see LESS content creation because of all this. Yeah people with messed up trading limits and billing issues are Really hurting the SL economy. This is probably the number 1 issue in Second Life right now =/ if you cant get your billing right the entire house of cards collapses. |
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Parker McTeague
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04-24-2007 10:51
my sales are down too, overall. a few good days here and there but the line on the chart is going the wrong way.
1) There have been reports of people losing their inventories and not getting them back. This is undermining consumer confidence. i've had a lot of customers losing the item they just bought from me due to inventory hiccups, and i've been doing a lot of replacing and refunds for double purchases. it's quite frustrating being a consumer, and scary when you don't know if the seller will make good and replace items lost. so yes, my confidence as a consumer is way down, personally, based on my experience on both sides. _____________________
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Sexy Partridge
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04-24-2007 10:54
Well this has been good news and bad news.
Good news it's not just me and everyone hasn't decided everything I make just sucks. Bad news it's a linden issue and there won't be a fix probally any time soon. |
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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04-24-2007 10:54
Sales of everything across the board, including land are down. My "Five and a Half Factors" theory as to why: 1) There have been reports of people losing their inventories and not getting them back. This is undermining consumer confidence. 2) Search and teleport issues make it hard for your customers to find you. It also makes shopping a lot less fun. 3) There have been issues buying and selling Lindens. A lot of people's accounts are messed up financially with buying limits, credit card problems etc. 4) There are less people online these days. We hit a peak of 40K concurrent users a few weeks ago. Have not gotten back there since. There has not been a big article or a PR push lately that would get new users in the pipeline. Since SL seems to be unable to handle the load anyway, I'm not too upset about this particular fact. 5) Seasonality. We just got done with tax time in the US and now the weather is getting warmer. 5.5) Since they did away with first land, a lot of people are holding off on becoming premium members. Less people owning land means less people buying stuff to put on their land. The above is just my opinion. Of course, it also happens to be correct. All very good and logical reasons and perhaps somewhat of a consolation when I am wondering why my sales have dropped 75% across the board. . _____________________
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Zen Martinek
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04-24-2007 11:09
well if you want one persons reason for not purchasing, you can have mine. INVENTORY LOSS.
I have lost over $2500 of purchase immediatly on buying where they have failed to rez from my inv and dissapeared from it. Or disapeared on a forced relog. SL is just not stable enough to make purchases a feasable option. Coupled with a total lack of support from LL they dont even reply to support tickets and vendors unhelpful in not being willing to offer replacements. I for one will not be making any futher purchases in SL. |
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Bones Gremlin
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04-24-2007 11:13
Personal experience over the years, for what its worth.
This time of year is always rough for sales. It does tend to pick up towards the end of June. July and 1st half of August are usually decent. Mid August into September we hit another slump, then htere is a steady increase in sales till Mid January. Alot of it I think has to do with weather and Student migrations to and from Universities. the May-June slump is kids heading fome from School and often at least in the US off on big family vacations. BY July its just too hot to be outside alot so you see sales pick back up as folk head for the AC. Thats just the normal pattern. When you add in Inventory, crashing, TP and Billing issues you have a recipe for disaster during slumps. Experience says have a sale mid slump, or do something else that really makes it hard to resist visiting your business. WORK at attracting the few customers there are. Maybe you will earn enough to see you through the other side. |
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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04-24-2007 11:18
well if you want one persons reason for not purchasing, you can have mine. INVENTORY LOSS. I can see that, sure I personally can't remember buying anything in-world for the last three or four weeks. There were a few items that looked pretty cool, but they were no-copy and I simply refuse to purchase no-copy items until LL fixes the possibility of losing it permanently. And since my SL income is down, my SL spending is down accordingly. . _____________________
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Johan Durant
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04-24-2007 11:24
I wasn't affected by the first round of people complaining about sales being down, but I'm affected this time. My sales over the weekend were still strong, but my sales during the week leading up to it, and my sales yesterday, were abysmal.
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Robustus Hax
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04-24-2007 11:28
Its also tough to find products when search seems like its off line once a day
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Atashi Toshihiko
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04-24-2007 12:16
Another 'me too' post
My sales hit an all-time low this past weekend. Never anything to write home about on a good day, but having 3 days in a row without a single sale was getting me worried. I have had a couple sales today though so maybe things are starting to pick up again. I think people have already nailed it though - when inventory is unstable, the LindeX and/or billing aren't working right, and teleporting is failing, who wants to go shopping? -Atashi _____________________
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Jonathan Mulberry
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04-24-2007 12:19
I'm sorry to hear some of you are experiencing this....
... but I might be the exception to the rule! This has been my best week yet. I finally moved at of a laggy mall and decided to invest in my own land and build my own store. Already passed my usual weekly sales in 4 days... I'm a happy man *grins! |
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Sensual Casanova
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04-24-2007 12:19
whats strange is, over the pass two days, we have had quite a bit of people in our shop, and since we moved to boxes and not vendors its a bit harder to keep track of sales when LL is messing up, but our vendors emailed us saying we sold stuff but no L$ to show for it... strange...we literally went an entire 24hrs w/o a single sale, that has never happen before... at least LL says we didn't have any sales, but our vendors tell us differently.
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Steve Mahfouz
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I also think the ban on casino advertising has had a chilling effect
04-24-2007 12:21
I can't prove this, but it seems if you dampen down or eliminate one of the primary money-makers in SL, that you will dampen down the rest of the economy by a ripple effect. If the sex business is ever dampened down, god help us all, I'm selling out then lol I do agree with the other posters though.
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Atashi Toshihiko
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04-24-2007 12:35
I've wondered about the casino thing as well. I have no way to measure or even guess at it of course. Since they haven't banned the act, just the advertising, I don't know if it is a real impact or just a perceived one.
I have noticed that the value of the L$ seems to have dropped very slightly in the last two weeks or so - I used to consistently see L$ going for 265/US$1 but now it seems to be between 266 and 267 at times. Of course, with the billing / LindeX problems, it's hard to say if there is less demand for L$, or just fewer people successfully able to buy them. Either way it's a bit of a double-hit - sales are down, and what sales you make are worth slightly less. I depend on L$ income in order to pay my fees to LL so I'm watching both the sales and the market value. -Atashi _____________________
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Vlad Bjornson
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04-24-2007 12:39
I have a 1 month old business, so it is a bit hard to judge if my sales are up or down. They have basically been slow and steady since I opened.
According to the SL economic stats, there are more residents making a profit than ever before. Maybe a decline in sales for some can be attributed to changing buying habits. It's also possible that the sheer number of people selling items has caused a decrease in sales for some folks. |
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Ceera Murakami
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04-24-2007 12:43
I don't know. My mall store sales for clothes, furniture and avatar eyes are rather flat - just breaking even. But my texture sales are booming. Depends on what you're making and selling, I guess.
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