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VooDoo Bamboo
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05-05-2007 23:54
Holly crap! This entire forum is filled with age verification threads. lmao ;-)

Can we clean it up and put them all in the same one
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05-06-2007 00:23
If they ask you for your id just give them this.

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05-06-2007 00:31
From: Bree Giffen
If they ask you for your id just give them this.

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Sweet! Hope they don't come after me for *that* instead, though :)


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05-06-2007 01:45
I gather it means something in AscII or Hexidecimal so I will just reply with this

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05-06-2007 01:48
From: VooDoo Bamboo
Holly crap! This entire forum is filled with age verification threads. lmao ;-)

Can we clean it up and put them all in the same one


I agree! Stop whining about the age verification! It's gonna happen no matter what.

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Morwen Bunin
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05-06-2007 03:02
From: Mandy Carbenell
I agree! Stop whining about the age verification! It's gonna happen no matter what.


Disagree. The different threads have different points of view and where started from out different ideas.

And the OP already shown how in favour he is of age verification.... Maybe he cannot stand that so many people are against it? Ah well, he already made clear that he thinks that everyone who is against is most likely a minor.... *shrugs*

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VooDoo Bamboo
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05-06-2007 03:26
From: Morwen Bunin
Disagree. The different threads have different points of view and where started from out different ideas.

And the OP already shown how in favour he is of age verification.... Maybe he cannot stand that so many people are against it? Ah well, he already made clear that he thinks that everyone who is against is most likely a minor.... *shrugs*

Morwen.



Uuuummm cause I am betting that its true perhaps! lol. I am not saying all the people but I would bet a good % are minnors and are now ticked off cause they will have a hell of a time getting around this to get back in. And to be honest why else complain about it? So they want the last 4 of my SSN, big deal. You know how many web sites out there these days use age verification now... Alot. Too many kids in areas they don't belong like Second Life. I would worry more about what the goverment is doing with your personal data then I would Second Life getting the last 4 of your SSN. Or better yet... How many times a day do you swip your credit card or ATM card? Alot I am betting. Your chances of getting hit there are alot higher then SL.

The fact of the matter still stands... The only reason I think people are bitching is one of these reasons:

1. They are a child and know their busted now
2. They are REALLY borded and need something to bitch about
3. They like little kids (Sick'os)
4. They just like drama
5. They think everyone is out to get them

The more I think about this the more disturbing I find some of the people in SL. Like the ones bitching that they cracked down on age play.... WTF.. AGE PLAY! Hate me if you want to.... but thats sick. There are some sick minds out there. If I was the F.B.I. I would be all over that doing some profiles.

I think alot of good will come from this. I know its going to make using bots a hell of alot harder. I think SL is doing this move for more then just age verification and its all positive.

Congrats SL, you for once are making a smart move. 5 stars here!
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Morwen Bunin
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05-06-2007 03:32
From: VooDoo Bamboo
Uuuummm cause I am betting that its true perhaps! lol. I am not saying all the people but I would bet a good % are minnors and are now ticked off cause they will have a hell of a time getting around this to get back in. And to be honest why else complain about it? So they want the last 4 of my SSN, big deal. You know how many web sites out there these days use age verification now... Alot. Too many kids in areas they don't belong like Second Life. I would worry more about what the goverment is doing with your personal data then I would Second Life getting the last 4 of your SSN. Or better yet... How many times a day do you swip your credit card or ATM card? Alot I am betting. Your chances of getting hit there are alot higher then SL.

The fact of the matter still stands... The only reason I think people are bitching is one of these reasons:

1. They are a child and know their busted now
2. They are REALLY borded and need something to bitch about
3. They like little kids (Sick'os)
4. They just like drama
5. They think everyone is out to get them

I think alot of good will come from this. I know its going to make using bots a hell of alot harder. I think SL is doing this move for more then just age verification and its all positive.

Congrats SL, you for once are making a smart move. 5 stars here!


*shakes head*
You really don't understand anything about it, don't you. Maybe you should REALLY READ the threads and see what concerns they have....
VooDoo Bamboo
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05-06-2007 03:36
I have and its old.... SL has issues we all know that but some of you are going WAYYYY over board on this. Not that it matters, its going to happen. I guess if your not a minnor then you have nothing to worry about.... Do you?

I think its a good move and more power to them.
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Gillian Vuckovic
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05-06-2007 03:40
Voodoo from what I read most people are in favour of age verification. I think the concern is the level of information required and what implications the new system will have inworld. If someone was simply annoyed they couldn't get porn anymore I'd have to ask if they actually use the internet at all beyond visiting these pages, I mean its rife! :)

I had some questions but found no grown up replies to them so I'm going to wait and see if LL will shed a little more light in the near future. :)
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05-06-2007 03:45
From: VooDoo Bamboo
I have and its old.... SL has issues we all know that but some of you are going WAYYYY over board on this. Not that it matters, its going to happen. I guess if your not a minnor then you have nothing to worry about.... Do you?

I think its a good move and more power to them.


It will keep people away... not because of the age verification, because I am convinced more then 95% of the verified account (payment info) are adults. But because of the security issues that may arise and some people take their privacy high because they don't want without reason that their personal data/history is checked.... and yes, it does happen (see other thread),

And your last question is as just as foolish asking someone who take his/her privacy as very important "Why do you stand up for your privacy so much ? Do you have something to hide"? Yes... just as foolisch.
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05-06-2007 03:52
@voodoo
Wondered how long it would take for you to call everyone paedophiles again.
If insults are the only way you can argue your point, then your point is crap.

As for stopping bots, that's about the stupidest thing I've heard so far. Bots are children now?
Let's see shall we.
1) Bot owner verifies their account.
2) Verification covers their alts.
3) Bot = verified.

Not that verification means anything to bots. A bot doesn't need to enter adult flagged land to scan items or buy the land.

Plenty of people have valid reasons for not handing their personal information to a 3rd party known to sell personal information. Where's your valid reasoning for why SL should require more personal information than the hardest xxx sites for no added benefit? This will not stop any kids entering the main grid.
VooDoo Bamboo
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05-06-2007 03:57
Ok but it comes to a point of either you go with the flow of the internet or you don't. As I said... There is alot of sites starting to do this ageverification now. I forget which thread it was but somebody had even listed some. This is something just like everything else on the net that is new and becoming popular like it or not. Now if this was just SL doing it then I might agree more due to their track record of throwing things out before they really work and are fully tested however they have clearly stated that its a third party thats doing the age verification. I would feel better if they would say who but I am guessing that information is coming soon. There are companies out there that do this and its all they do. They have it down solid. In a way I think this is silly that we are even talking about it. Your information in this day and age is stored everywhere on computers!

And now because SL is requiring age verification you want to harp about it? Theres most likely crap out there store about you that you don't even know about yourself! We have have a very large digital record these days.

Either start accepting it or shutdown your computer for the last time.... Either way your still going to have your digital information stored on a computer system someplace one way or another. Welcome to the year 2007.
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VooDoo Bamboo
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05-06-2007 04:00
From: Sys Slade
@voodoo
Wondered how long it would take for you to call everyone paedophiles again.
If insults are the only way you can argue your point, then your point is crap.

As for stopping bots, that's about the stupidest thing I've heard so far. Bots are children now?
Let's see shall we.
1) Bot owner verifies their account.
2) Verification covers their alts.
3) Bot = verified.

Not that verification means anything to bots. A bot doesn't need to enter adult flagged land to scan items or buy the land.

Plenty of people have valid reasons for not handing their personal information to a 3rd party known to sell personal information. Where's your valid reasoning for why SL should require more personal information than the hardest xxx sites for no added benefit? This will not stop any kids entering the main grid.



You do know how to read right? English? Where did I say "everybody" at? And if somebody is one then it should be brought out cause its sick! Defend that action all you want... They need mental help. I have 4 kids and people like that scare the crap out of me. We live in a sick world. And use your head a tiny bit would ya... So your a bot owner and you want your bots to run. So you start to age check each bot? LMAO I don't think so. That would work if it was SL doing the age verification but not with a company that does nothing but that. I am betting that once you do it once, your done.

"Plenty of people have valid reasons for not handing their personal information to a 3rd party known to sell personal information."

Amazing... You know this for a fact yet they have not even said who the company is. I am impressed.


Your thinking they are going to sell your info? LMAO Go check your mailbox... I don't think you have to worry about SL. Your info hit public a longgggggg time ago. Welcome to the internet.

Its going to happen... Live with it.
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Daisy Rimbaud
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05-06-2007 04:15
And what is going to happen is that a large percentage of the people who make the most contribution to SL are going to pack up and leave - why? Because these are also the people who have the most to lose in RL from identity theft. This will particularly apply to non-US citizens, who are going to revolt over the idea of handing sensitive personal data to some foreign (i.e. US) company.

You are going to see a sudden exodus of talent from SL. This is serious, believe me.
Morwen Bunin
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05-06-2007 04:15
@Voodoo
You still don't get it really, don't you?

It is not about age-verification. Most people have no problem with that all.

It is way how it is done. The kind of verification that will be added will give northing more as credit card verification, because if some kid who really wants to cheat on it it will be just as simple as it did with the CC of his/her parents.

And yes, I know my mail-address is out there on they Internet. But matters as my pasport-information, Sofi-number (Dutch version of the SS-number) is not.

And with all the problems with leaking information, hacking of systems with bad security, people who loose laptops and usb-sticks with highly confidential information all the time, that kind of information better stays away from there.

It is not with out reason people are often warned NOT to transmit that kind of data over the Internet.....

Welcome to 2007... where people still care for their privacy.
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05-06-2007 04:16
From: VooDoo Bamboo
You do know how to read right?
.......
Its going to happen... Live with it.

So you're "betting" that age verification will be on an avatar basis?
Have you forgotten that avatars do not hold social security numbers, driving licenses or passports?
The verification will be of the real people behind the avatars, so if you verify that person on one account, you've verified them on their alts as well.

For your information, I have 2 young children. Nowhere do I defend paedophilia. Hell, I don't even support ageplayers. But guess what, you posted this:
From: someone
1. They are a child and know their busted now
2. They are REALLY borded and need something to bitch about
3. They like little kids (Sick'os)
4. They just like drama
5. They think everyone is out to get them

Throwing out accusations of being underaged, paedophiles or paranoid at everyone who disagrees with you.

To address your previous post about "going with the flow of the internet". Hmmmm, I am responsible for the running of 5 sites, with staff interests in others, totalling 100,000+ users. Each site has its own way of doing things and its own rules. Each of the sites is in direct opposition to certain other sites on the net. There is no "flow", that's what makes the net interesting rather than a massive lump of identical sites. Just because a beer site uses this age verification doesn't mean all sites do.
And a beer company has more need for personal information and less need for age verification than a hardcore porn site. That should tell you something about why they choose that company to handle their verification, and why porn sites dont.

One final point. Yes, I read english. I happen to be english, so I read the real thing. I also write in english, which I feel you could do with some pointers on :p
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05-06-2007 04:21
Ok so lets see... Then by making a 3rd option that mean everybody falls under number 3? Uuuuummm yeah ok. Your really stuck on that "paedophiles" part. Its sick and those people should be locked up. I don't care if you like my thoughts on it or not. I am 99% sure that anyone who has kids would agree with me.

Anyway.....

I don't care where you live... U.S., Africa, Space Shuttle.... Your SSN, birthdate, color of your eyes, and even your damn tounge size is most likely stored on a computer someplace in the world. You people are all acting like this is brand new!

SL IS DOING WHAT! AGE VERIFICATION! AND THEY WANT WHAT FROM ME! The sky is falling the sky is falling....

Computers out there know more about you then you know about yourself in this day and age. Stop acting all shocked. The only reason this is getting this attention in here is because its SL.
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Morwen Bunin
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05-06-2007 04:27
From: VooDoo Bamboo
Ok so lets see... Then by making a 3rd option that mean everybody falls under number 3? Uuuuummm yeah ok. Your really stuck on that "paedophiles" part. Did I hit a nerve or something?


It seems to be an obsession for you that you also keep falling back to that all the time?
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05-06-2007 04:29
From: VooDoo Bamboo

Computers out there know more about you then you know about yourself in this day and age. Stop acting all shocked. The only reason this is getting this attention in here is because its SL.


Don't be absurd. There is a huge difference between a government office having your information and some foreign company of unknown ethical standards. You may not care, but believe me, a lot of others do.

I'm already hearing from a lot of people planning to close their accounts.

This is not idle chatter.

These are people high up in SL society.
VooDoo Bamboo
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05-06-2007 04:32
From: Daisy Rimbaud
Don't be absurd. There is a huge difference between a government office having your information and some foreign company of unknown ethical standards. You may not care, but believe me, a lot of others do.

I'm already hearing from a lot of people planning to close their accounts.

This is not idle chatter.

These are people high up in SL society.



If you think your info is not out there besides with your goverment... You are way behind. I don't mean that in a mean or bad way but come on....

Wake up call people... Coffee is on!
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05-06-2007 04:34
From: VooDoo Bamboo
If you think your info is not out there besides with your goverment... You are way behind. I don't mean that in a mean or bad way but come on....

Wake up call people... Coffee is on!


Should we all just wear T Shirts with all our details on them? I mean what harm can there be since you say everyone knows it all already?
VooDoo Bamboo
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05-06-2007 04:36
From: Gillian Vuckovic
Should we all just wear T Shirts with all our details on them? I mean what harm can there be since you say everyone knows it all already?



Thats GREAT IDEA!!!! I could make a ton of money of that business! T-shirts with your info on it!

Gesh I have not seen people looking over their back so much since the whole 60's acid thing went out the door.
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Mandy Carbenell
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05-06-2007 04:37
From: VooDoo Bamboo
If you think your info is not out there besides with your goverment... You are way behind. I don't mean that in a mean or bad way but come on....

Wake up call people... Coffee is on!


Oh..I think we all registered somewhere on the web at some time, like at a webstore to buy stuff etc. With my shopping habits, my name, adress etc. is prolly stored on dozens of servers.

Oh and 2 sugars pls..

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Morwen Bunin
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05-06-2007 04:43
From: Mandy Carbenell
Oh..I think we all registered somewhere on the web at some time, like at a webstore to buy stuff etc. With my shopping habits, my name, adress etc. is prolly stored on dozens of servers.


Yes Mandy... that kind of "normal information" is all over the internet, but we are talking here about other kind of information that will be sent over the Internet.... and oh, yes that info is also stored on computers (government alike).... but that is complete something different as my simple computer with a simple security software that will sent it through a https connection to a company (the third party, not sl) I have complete no information about and which their own website makes me frown upon their trustworthly...

Morwen.
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