over-friendly neighboors

Strange isn't it? I've been harassed. orbited, pushed and shot at in malls and open areas .. but in the comfort of my first land plot, nothing but polite callers. Must be just plain lucky. Mind you, my home is a freebie house with windows and blinds set open. Most of my prims have been spent on the garden.

I 'live' about 10 plots from a section of coast and I frequently wander down to the sea to see what's been happening.

Every time I go, I meet another banned plot somewhere en route. The first is my nextdoor neighbour restricting my angle of approach by about 120 degrees. Not that there's one prim on this plot .. or I've ever seen the owner. I IM-ed him to ask if he could lift the lines. He answered as if he didn't understand what they were.

This labyrynthine route I have to take when flying/walking anywhere basically is rapidly making moving around what is supposed to be a community, a rather unpleasant experience.

You could put your house at say 500mtrs high, forget about teleporters, they just tell ppls that there is something up higher, rez a simple prim at ground level, sit on it and alter its Z value to say 501mtrs and poof, ur there (assuming you placed it a position that doesnt land u in a wall). 'The Coat Hanger Solution' Oh and did I mention, dont have any doors in the house, they are not needed.

The only time I'd rather not have visitors is when I'm doing photo shoots for some of my items. This is the only time my door on my workshop is locked, too. There is nothing like someone popping in between the camera and the avatar, shoving me out of position to make me wanna commit an ejecting.

If they IM or heck 'knock,' as my door has that feature, I politely explain that I am in the middle of a shoot and will gladly talk with them once I am done. Half the time they poof before I'm done, the other half, they are interested in something I've done and want to discuss it. I'm more than glad to chat, even when I'm in a sandbox!

It always amazes me that some people think that, because this is a 'social' environment, that we should never have a single moment in the grid when we can be just by ourselves.

We should, every second we are online, always allow anyone to bump into us with freebie penises, get in between us and what we are building, sit on what we are building, distract us with chat while we are scripting (and we are totally evil if we don't respond immediately), fire super-push weapons at us, etc., etc..

WHY is it so horrible to want a little privacy now and then? WHY do some people consider it dysfuncitional to want some privacy to create the very things they just might want to use later?

It is not a sin to be alone in SL.

Worse than little old ladies with a shopping cart in a Mall

I don't consider wanting a little privacy dysfunctional Serenarra. If my neighbour was ever on his undeveloped plot with ban lines I would understand totally but in the absence of their ever being a green dot on the map I regard his restricting access to my property bad manners.

Actually AWM, the little old ladies are ok .. it's the self-righteous middle-aged ones that cause the bovver

I guess I need to realize how lucky I've been. I have a small island in one of the private island groups, no ban lines allowed or needed as far as I'm concerned. My place is very open, a few tropical huts, no walls but shades I could close if I choose but never have. I have a Linus tracker so I know that there is a bit of traffic going through but most people just seem to be exploring, they may sit on my couch or in my boat for a short time then just move on. I enjoy talking to the people that wander through.

I had one incident several weeks ago, a group of people spent several hours there one afternoon when I was offline. Later that evening one of them came back while I was there, we chatted for a bit and I explained that this was my island and while I didn't mind people looking around I didn't want it to become a hang out for strangers while I was not there. He was very nice, said he understood and there has not been a problem since.

I do have a small skypod that I can use if I want to insure some private time by myself or with friends, it's quite high up and I just set a landmark there and TP up when I want.

I regularly get new residents walking into my bedouin tent. Two are now friends, they were nice and polite and I love them visiting.

Others walk in and sit on the rug and when I aski if I can help, they either ignore me or say no and continue to sit there lol.

One guy said "you look depressed, are you depressed?" No I replied, trying not to laugh. Then he said, "why are you sitting in here all alone?" I explained it was my home and I was creating a plant texture in PSP while I was on here. He then said "this isn't a home, its a tent"
and continued to ramble on for another half hour.

I guess these people won't understand unless they get land of their own.

Yea this is a nice teleporter. I even found a way to make it faster. I edited mine and added the warppos script to it.

There are some residents who come to SL to share time with their selected friends, not come here to be thrown into a sea of millions of users. To all of us SL is a place to be your self and either be creative or successful. Some of us wish to take part in that without having to deal with a endless overflow of people bothering them. SL's current goal is to be like a internet browser from what Philip says. Does my Firefox or IE throw me into a sea of endless hellos and privacy breaches? not if i have the tools to prevent it!

For example. 2 people who are partners (made up people) decide to come to SL because they heard so much about it. They buy some land and settle down to be with each other in a 3D world where they can be something new. They only come to SL to be with each other. They don't come here to socialize with anyone who comes in. I hope your not saying that these people should leave SL because they don't wish to be burdened by other people... I like to have a little company of my own but not just ANYONE.

This is a problem that has been here since day 1 in SL and isn't really solvable without either restricting access or ejecting. Might be a day when you could rent land and have it invisable but still passable by others, but that day isn't here yet. Might be a day where you can have your house a instanced zone that you can lock access to, but it isn't available yet (and probably never will).

So our only option is to deny access to our land if we wish to spend time alone with our own friends without interferances. I can understand where you business folk are coming from though. You want people to find you. That is great. Leave your land available. Put up all kinds of ads in search to grab their attention, but those who don't do any of those things are probably wanting some privacy and still be able to enjoy the other things that SL has to offer them.

I didn't read all the replies, so sorry if this is a repeat.

I suggest that you put walls and ceiling on your box that are clear from the inside but opaque from the outside. In addition, you could add text to the outside, such as "I'm working, please leave me in peace."

I guess that a lot of us would have a gazillion stories to tell and I also guess that the debate over the level of privacy we should (or should not) have will never end.

I joined SL in mid November 2006 so I'm pretty new, but I've come a long way I think. As of now I'm renting 2 different places: a 2 stories house and an apartment (8th floor) over at a condo tower. Both of the places are in residential areas and I've yet to see a bugger there.

Recently I reserved a land plot on a private island. On the island there is the club where I work. I know that living near a club is kinda asking for troubles, but I wanted to give it a try. I also started building my own house and right now the parcel I reserved is quieter than a sandbox and I can leave my stuff there for as long as I want to.

This night I was busy building (I'm almost done) when I heard the sound of my sliding doors on the ground floor. To make a long story short, I had a bunch of newbies visiting me from that moment on.

Most amusing question was "What is this place?"

Ok, the place is not locked or has any sort of access control yet, I see no point in it since I'm still busy building. As of now, I placed 2 doorbells, front and back entrance. Bought them on SLexchange: http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=ratings&Remind=1

They have a big cartoon like fixed balloon that tells people to ring before coming in. Not really an effective security tool, but if one walks past that (unless he/she doesn't speak a word of English) then it's really a bugger!

I had a neighbour like that when I bought my first land. She put her own name on her access list. Of course she could not see the ban lines and could not understand why we could, even after I tried to explain it to her.

Aha! Thanks for that Ed. There's another neighbour who's a friend of the offender. I'll pass that on to them

LOL Latonia

Samantha, I'm sure your bell even as just a token security precaution will deter most explorers.

Yiffy, I sympathise with your example couple. My fiancee and I have found many areas totally deserted for privacy.
For as long as users can swing their cameras through walls, banlines will remain nothing more than hazzards to passers-by and a lot of us like passing by.

Well, we'll see
Anyway camera panning does not concern me. I can understand who does not want to be watched, though. I can live with a few buggers once every while, 'cause I hate ban lines and I would not want to have them on at my own place.

Since you invited me to your place I'll invite you to mine

Samatha darling, having seen your pictures I can't believe you're such a newbie (about the same age I am). If I find that doorbell of yours, I'll be ringing it!

You grace the forum.

Cheers
Jeff

Guess that with this you qualify as over-friendly neighbour

Also guess that you saw my pictures on my blog; they're outdated and now I look even better

Anyway, I'm still working on the house and I've got visits all the day long. lol, someone even complained that in SL he had never find a person busier than me, and I was actually talking to him while raising walls and stuff! Anyway, since he wasn' a neighbour, but a passer-by, I guess I'm offtopic!

It can be hard to tell what's residential sometimes. *Usually* not so I agree with you to an extent, but there are times when I've got a house confused with a general building or vice versa.



Yes! I generally fly above ban-line height, but there's one point next to my store where to get to my other plot I have to negotiate a narrow gap between a building and some ban lines and getting bounced off them when I land too soon is v annoying. Oh, and that lovely thing where you get stuck between ban lines and bounced around for ages. Though if you find a large enough no-entry zone there's a fun game where you use it as a sort of bouncy castle. You can get ejected if the owner shows up, but then you can hate them extra for not wanting people outside the area they cordoned off.




Personally I've got no issues with someone putting up some temporary restrictions while they're working, but it's pretty rare to actually see someone on these Banlands.

Both plots are on residental private sims, so in my case there's really no mistaking it for anything but residental land .

My main house is even on a by-itself private sim (no neighbouring sims) and looks like pretty much like a RL street would: main road, side walks on either side, stone wall with a gate seperating each house from the street and other houses on the same side.

I feel sure I must have wandered through residential sims at some point, cos I can't remember seeing any even though I must have by now. Islands?

invisiprim the cieling....gotta love watching them try to fly in only to see em smash themselve into the walls.