The Mating Habits of the Gridbound Human

Excellent thought, lots of places teeming with consent! e.g. Bella Boardwalk

I'm not sure....Call them "DADDY" when chasing them? Put on a Rosie ODonnell AV and chase them out?

As much as it sucks for store owners to have to hire sales & security people, places that do that get more of my business.

I really like knowing that I can jump on a poseball for a hassle-free minute to see how it actually behaves or that I can ask somebody a question about a product. Places that provide those kinds of services are worth a bit of a premium, IMO, and I tend to return to them first when I go shopping for new items.

Clearly stated rules are also a plus. If I go adult-shopping and see that the store encourages shoppers to try stuff out and discourages (or ejects/bans) random pervs from hassling shoppers, I'm a bit more comfortable.

I have to say that the problem with this is the CONSTANT INFLUX of newbies. Yes you'll see a few stop once they have had enough but there are always more to replace them.

Having a security person ban people is not the answer either because the offender has to first do something to get banned. Even if you ban 50 first time offenders, you still have those 50 offences already commited on your property. You certainly can't try pre-emptive banning.

Thanks a lot for all the suggestions

I think I picked out the method that hopefully work best in my case. I will restrict the access to the whole sim to verified residents, except for one island where I place a second shop with the same product range. Nothing changes for the verified customer, who is still taken directly to the right display when using the teleport link in an advertisement, but unverified customers will pop up at the doors of the other shop.

This solution also allows me to install some disclaimers (By entering the shop area you agree... legal age... legal in your country etc.), without annoying the verified, most likely adult visitors. Verified residents who like large crowds can still fly over to the second place, project name "Newbie Tower". Perhaps I'll lift my push restriction too there, since I had many requests from residents who want to defend themselves against griefers; that may deal with verified griefers and cagers. If all this doesn't help to keep the main store peaceful, I'll hire shop security in addition.

Exactly that sums it up pretty well. During the first months, Doms and Dommes would visit with their subs and often try out the toys together. There was a lot of roleplay going on too, since the place was an excellent location for public humiliation, but with... style and respect for other's privacy. Playful subs often waited there in the hope to be picked up as a test subject, but never bothered anyone.

That's what I want to get back to. Not a place with a dress code; I absolutely don't mind roleplay at my shop and find it refreshing when the visitors have fun. But with the civility and respect of the typical lifestyler, not the rudeness of the many "sex tourists".

Hormonally disadvantaged I like it. May I borrow that expression?

Good idea, but many of them don't mind male genitals as long as the rest looks halfway attractive But......this could really help, combined with a dress, high heels and earrings. I use the "male" checkbox in my appearance menu quite often when I work on poses or animations, and remember some "burglars", who camera-tricked themselves through my walls and were really freaked out by that sight.


You're right Heather, I brought this on myself. When the classified search was broken, I tried to figure out ways to keep my usual weekend revenue. The easy solution springing to mind was lots of cheap advertisements, starting with popular search criteria which usually attract the SL club scene. I had my 3 days of being at the top of the classifieds, since all those overpaid 30k ads weren't listed anymore. Alas, it worked too well; the traffic numbers shot through the ceiling, but higher traffic doesn't mean more sales. Rather the opposite. Und die Geister, die ich rief, werd' ich nun nicht mehr los... (the spirits that I summoned up I now can't rid myself of).

I'll rework my ads again, as soon as I'm sure that the classifieds search system is back to it's old functionality (there are still some issues, the database load is kept down by using the new form of ad title search only as soon as a certain number of search results is exceeded).

I really like the idea of ban rights for a group of regular customers and visitors. I'll give that a try as well. I'll avoid llUnSit script changes, since I think someone who... really had a lot of fun with a product is more likely to buy it I remember cases where customers came daily, literally, to test a certain toy again and again, until they could afford it.

And separating the products isn't really an option for me, since many lifestylers come for BDSM accessories and leave with a pierced body attachment, or the other way round; lifestylers and slightly kinky vanilla residents really mixed quite well, until I made the error of attracting the current club clientele. At a club, they're confronted with dressed females on a dance floor; at my shop, they find naked girls in restraints or... riding horses, what makes them easier prey in their eyes. So don't worry, I won't change the overall shop design, I'll just sort the old and the new clientele into different locations

I'm Happy i Summed it up Clearly for you. Again, If you found my suggestions useful, Contact me In Game, we can Talk more.

I mentioned display of a Baseline of Products, in a Few Locations, Just to make this Clear, this Baseline should be a wide, Varied selection, But you should have a Selection of specialty items that are unique to Each location, and ads placed in All your stores Howing a few of them, and directing people to the Other Locations. You can get the Effect of a Larger store without having it All in one place, and Keeping each individual shop smaller, and the shoppers more spread out Will In Effect, Hide your store from the Crowd Seeking Griefer, or the Hormonally Challenged (Yes i Love that Phrase too) trouble maker.

Angel.

Heyers, don't know if this'n be old news or not but I jez ran 'cross a reference to ban link in another post 'an it looks kinda usefuls like.

http://www.slbanlink.com/

On the other hand, if yours is the store I'm thinking of, I didn't know about it until the new run of ads. No, I haven't bought anything yet, but I did see some things that I would like to get when the budget allows. I guess I count as a tourist in the scene rather than a hardcore player, but tourists aren't necessarily a problem so long as they respect the native culture

ignore them, many are lookin for the shock/annoy the hell out of you knee jerk reaction that the get. if they persist ban. customers can also mute them as well.

maybe its just me, but if i find a store that sells quality items, a hormonally charged dimwit will not keep me away. although i do like the Big Bubba idea XD!!

i usually find if they are persistant, its because the person or persons they are harassing are responding. dont respond and they will move on, eventually, as one poster put it, they will move on because it will become a not so great place to pick up chicks.

You can't reason with these people. I was in a store WITH my boyfriend, and still kept getting offers. I asked a few... why don't you go to the sex houses where there are WILLING people. Their answer.. "Those places are always full." I just tell them to get the F away from me and ignore them. If they're really persistant, file a complaint again them and IM their name to the owner so they can ban them.

Shoot... I'll go sit at a store for a couple of hours a week and ban people. Get some frustrations out! LOL Ban.. You're Gone... Ban... You're Gone! LOL

LOL You just described my perfect sl day*sighs*(j/k)

but i do understand those being unclear on the subject. maybe the store owner should scrap the store and do a "catalog", create a group only store(lashed and several others have done this), or hire security or a staff to police the place.

My alt got tp-ed to a place like we're discussing, the other day. Pose balls abounded, semi and fully naked avatars more than abounding! The walls were stone giving the 'dungeon' look but then I noticed vending posters.
I asked if this was a shop. Friend did not know. I felt embarrased not because of the company but this very issue of using the shop area for recreation rather than browsing.
I looked for some kind of notice or notecard clarifying if this was in order. Heck, even some recreational areas have some information for the visitor. Nothing.
I'm sure a polite notice would dissuade a lot of these people. It would certainly be a reasonable first line of defense.
Sorry if going over old ground here but thought my experience might help.