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Ordinal Malaprop
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09-29-2008 14:35
I am a little concerned that the Grid Crash Protection Box might have been a factor. I would like to issue a statutory legal warning: "The Grid Crash Protection Box is not associated with Ageplay or Any Other Broadly Offensive Activity, until such time as Comically Avoiding Grid Crashes is treated as Offensive".
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
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09-29-2008 15:00
As a related aside, I had two incidents at Burning Life today that were a bit disturbing. I held a dance party at Inner Child Camp. Jes dancing, not even couples dances.
One person came by and was shocked to see kids in a mature sim. They were in the main Burning Life group, and even asked for Rangers to "take action" about this. I'm not sure what might have been done off-group, but few if any took their request as serious. An hour or two later, a nicely dressed German man came up and started circling the camp, taking photos of us all. I asked him to stop. He claimed to be taking them for the police and press. You can guess how well that was going. Thankfully, a trio of rangers did show up for my call, and one in particular talked this person into finding someting else to do with their time. So what, did everyone take their "kid avvie! zOMG!" pills or what? _____________________
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Toy LaFollette
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09-29-2008 15:21
As a related aside, I had two incidents at Burning Life today that were a bit disturbing. I held a dance party at Inner Child Camp. Jes dancing, not even couples dances. One person came by and was shocked to see kids in a mature sim. They were in the main Burning Life group, and even asked for Rangers to "take action" about this. I'm not sure what might have been done off-group, but few if any took their request as serious. An hour or two later, a nicely dressed German man came up and started circling the camp, taking photos of us all. I asked him to stop. He claimed to be taking them for the police and press. You can guess how well that was going. Thankfully, a trio of rangers did show up for my call, and one in particular talked this person into finding someting else to do with their time. So what, did everyone take their "kid avvie! zOMG!" pills or what? It seems this has been happening more frequently lately, maybe Sky New needs to fabricate more conflict. Ya know, since SL child avs must live under stricter rules than others I would think LL should inform others or simply take more care when handling AR's recieved concerning Age or Child avs. _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-29-2008 15:24
I am a little concerned that the Grid Crash Protection Box might have been a factor. I would like to issue a statutory legal warning: "The Grid Crash Protection Box is not associated with Ageplay or Any Other Broadly Offensive Activity, until such time as Comically Avoiding Grid Crashes is treated as Offensive". ...An hour or two later, a nicely dressed German man came up and started circling the camp, taking photos of us all. I asked him to stop. He claimed to be taking them for the police and press. You can guess how well that was going. Thankfully, a trio of rangers did show up for my call, and one in particular talked this person into finding someting else to do with their time... _____________________
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Rika Watanabe
Highly improbable
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09-29-2008 15:29
I never did check on the pose that goes on inside the box. (O.o) I did. Hardly recognizable as a human figure at all, contorted into a very tight ball. ![]() _____________________
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FD Spark
Prim & Texture Doodler
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09-29-2008 15:45
Does your crash box resemble just plain prim floating around?
How can that be ageplay or any avatar squished in that type box that is reportable as ageplay? Building in box or wearing actually any avatar robot, child avatar or dressed as Mummy is wearing custom it isn't necessarily ageplay nor the kind of type against rules type of ageplay in my book. In fact they should change that to inappropriate conduct or sexual ageplay not ageplay in the listing. It's pretty stupid. I guess they hiring stupid Lindens who don't know the difference. It is pretty clear cut what is inappropriate and anyone else who says its gray area what is against the rules is either not very bright or intentionally being annoying and causing problems. For those who don't know what is inappropriate it's approaching someone to be a child av or asking someone to dress as child avatar for sexual role play or having sex around child avatar period. _____________________
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
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Does duration of suspension suggest time since AR filing?
09-29-2008 16:23
I wonder if anyone knows this. Intuitively, it would make sense that short suspensions would come at the time of the reported incident, to remove the supposed offender from the scene--indeed perhaps with only a very cursory investigation.
Does it ever happen that they go through an exhaustive investigation, and then--perhaps days or weeks after the report was filed--issue a brief suspension? On the surface, that would seem silly. So, just based on the brevity of a suspension, can we deduce when an AR was filed? |
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
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09-29-2008 16:46
Immy, could it be that the AR was acted upon at the time but was filed maybe even a day earlier?
Reason I asked is that I filed ARs against someone recently and the action came about a day or so later (if the effect I saw was indeed action). I am not saying you did anything wrong, I am just responding to the people who are saying they saw no problem at NCI. Perhaps they are missing the point that the AR could have been filed at another time and LL were backlogged. That still does not clear up the why you were suspended part. You were not streaking at welcome areas again were you? ![]() For my own child av, I keep her purely as a child and there is nothing adult about her at all. I feel that it is hard enough for some people to grasp that a child av != a RL child without stretching their brain-cells to a concept of av roles within a single account (see other recent threads for examples). It is sad and should never be necessary but that is the truth and LL certainly don't seem to help things by not making the distinction between AgePlay and Sexual AgePlay very clear. Perhaps Immy's non-child roles could be moved on to alts? |
Toy LaFollette
I eat paintchips
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09-29-2008 16:49
I wonder if anyone knows this. Intuitively, it would make sense that short suspensions would come at the time of the reported incident, to remove the supposed offender from the scene--indeed perhaps with only a very cursory investigation. Does it ever happen that they go through an exhaustive investigation, and then--perhaps days or weeks after the report was filed--issue a brief suspension? On the surface, that would seem silly. So, just based on the brevity of a suspension, can we deduce when an AR was filed? The problem I have with that is should one be assumed to be guilty until proven otherwise? Take them to the corn field, have a chat with them and that should usually settle it rather than just suspending on anyones whim untill you prove your innocence. _____________________
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Jesse Barnett
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09-29-2008 17:26
So sorry you had problems Immy. If it was up to me I would permaban both the one that ARed you and all of the rest of these bastards that look at a child AV and automatically think it must have to do with sex. They are the ones with the sick, twisted, deviant minds.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-29-2008 17:59
Immy, could it be that the AR was acted upon at the time but was filed maybe even a day earlier? That still does not clear up the why you were suspended part. You were not streaking at welcome areas again were you? ![]() Perhaps Immy's non-child roles could be moved on to alts? ![]() That said... I did follow through with my major profile revamp. It is reflective of my current set of multiple forms and it is the only current consession I'll make until I get an official Linden response to this situation (which I am still waiting for, BTW). (^_^) _____________________
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
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09-29-2008 18:10
The AR was filed in the Kuula sim, where NCI is located, and a PG sim where I keep my activities PG. But, I see where you're potentially coming from with that. Honestly... If I were ARed for that, I wouldn't have complained. But too much time has passed for me to believe it could be true. (^_^)y I'm sorry, but I disagree with this. The name "Imnotgoing Sideways" may bring up the image of a little Loli avatar to many people familiar to me, but that shouldn't typecast me into the role regardless of my size. Particularly when I'm in the middle of a bit on an inworld identity crisis like I am at the moment. My Amethyst scripted collar is only really worn on my tall shape, as are quite a few outfits. I've had an un-scripted spiked collar since November for all my sizes. And a name doesn't change my own behaviour and how I adjust to my own avatar shape and situation. Add to that... Yuudonta Naidoo got hit with an ageplay AR as well, in adult form. (>_< ![]() That said... I did follow through with my major profile revamp. It is reflective of my current set of multiple forms and it is the only current consession I'll make until I get an official Linden response to this situation (which I am still waiting for, BTW). (^_^) I agree with you Immy, it should not but there are many injustices both in SL and RL and it all depends on whether you want to take an easier path or a harder one. I offered it as a solution only and a possible explanation of where someone could have convinced a LL that there was a problem. EDIT: Actually if you are wearing a collar that looks like it *might* be of the slave/BDSM style then I can see how someone either with a grudge, narrow-minded, overly conversative or uneducated could have persuaded an inexperienced Linden that it was a symbol of sexual ageplay. I am not saying I think that (just the opposite, especially if unscripted) but it after all it does come down to who is dealing with the report on the day and how convincing that report is. The Linden should have investigated with you but I bet most of them act first due to the sheer number of ARs they must have to deal with each day. |
Cybin Monde
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09-29-2008 22:01
Threads started in direct relation/question to a ban or suspension are not allowed in these forums. As such, I am closing this thread.
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