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Har Fairweather
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08-07-2007 15:05
With all due respect to Strife and any other interested party, the thread called Politcal Correctness clearly touched on matters that matter to a great many people here in SL. And to SL itself.

If SL is not a part of Reality, what is?

So, requesting Resident Answers to: What is Reality, which SL is clearly a part of? And what is Reality within SL? And what is Sl as part of that Reality?
And if Sl is not part of Reality, what is it?

And if Religion as such is a part of this equation, why can't we deal with it as such, rather than reacting by lockiing threads? I mean, Religion, whether it is the doctrines of Pharisees, or the testimony of people with genuine religious experiences, is an idea. If you can't handle it becauses it is a Politally Incorrect idea, I submit that it it is your problem. So, deal with it.

Now, inteliigent contributors, please contirbute.
Arua Rotaru
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08-07-2007 15:19
if religion is somethng you want to discuss then throw a get together in game for it

my opnion is its not something that does well on forums

it is a very emotional subject and things get out of control on issues like religion and politics

and id bet on it if it wasnt illegal but this will more then likely get locked also

so thorw a political discussion event...advertise it and have at it
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Cristalle Karami
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08-07-2007 15:22
From: Har Fairweather
With all due respect to Strife and any other interested party, the thread called Politcal Correctness clearly touched on matters that matter to a great many people here in SL. And to SL itself.

If SL is not a part of Reality, what is?

So, requesting Resident Answers to: What is Reality, which SL is clearly a part of? And what is Reality within SL? And what is Sl as part of that Reality?
And if Sl is not part of Reality, what is it?

And if Religion as such is a part of this equation, why can't we deal with it as such, rather than reacting by lockiing threads? I mean, Religion, whether it is the doctrines of Pharisees, or the testimony of people with genuine religious experiences, is an idea. If you can't handle it becauses it is a Politally Incorrect idea, I submit that it it is your problem. So, deal with it.

Now, inteliigent contributors, please contirbute.

GFD... the same thread in disguise. It's not a matter of political incorrectness - it's a matter of this being a pointless debate that no one wins, and one side having a free for all in bashing another, usually. Religion is extremely personal, and the outright bashing of others' spirituality is the only thing occurring here. It is an open display of contempt and hatred for another's personal choice, if that wasn't plainly evident. Save it for a forum where you are of similar mind.
Solar Legion
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08-07-2007 15:22
Second Life is a fantasy world and a computer program. Nothing in it is Real and therefore not a part of any Reality except the one you make up for yourself.

That's all there is to it.
Broseybrose Writer
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08-07-2007 15:23
its not that its politically incorrect, its that its the incorrect venue. itd be like walking into a shoe store at the mall and attempting to get everyone involved in a roundtable discussion on religion. it just makes no sense. dig?
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08-07-2007 15:26
Again I say:

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08-07-2007 15:32
If someone had a "genuine religious experience" in SL, the topic would seem germane. (Well, at least if phrased as a question: "Was it really G*d, or the divine mind of Philip, and is there a difference?";)

Actually, it might be an interesting side-question: Can a virtual world be a conducive venue for religious experience?

(But don't ask me: unless religion is scriptable, it's outside the realm of this one's humble expertise.)
Har Fairweather
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08-07-2007 15:32
Thank you for the views expressed so far. Intelligent, thought-about views are what I wanted to encourage. More , please. This is what we need. It is what SL deserves and needs.

IMO SL is too important to be left to ideologues of any persuasion. Please, add here if you have something intelligent to say here.
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08-07-2007 15:40
From: Har Fairweather
Please, add here if you have something intelligent to say here.

blah blah blah dah-eeeerrrrrrrrrrr..........
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08-07-2007 15:48
Resident Answers is one of the last places someone with a genuine SL problem can go to get help from other residents. Please don't abuse it. I feel it has immense value and I wouldn't like to see it go away.
Har Fairweather
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08-07-2007 16:03
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blah blah blah dah-eeeerrrrrrrrrrr..........


Heh. See what I mean? Total lack of intelligence does not contribute either to this question or to SL as a whole. Or to the reputation of the idiot picking his nose. Now, if you are not an idiot, please add an intelligent response. Seriously, that is what would contribute to this thread, to SL, and to everyone viewing this thread. If you are capable of it. Come on, give it a try..

I really do want to get an intelligent discussion going here.
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08-07-2007 16:06
two topics I dont think really should be on this forum are politics and religion simply because well I dont see how they relate to resident answers about second life issues. Just my opinion but in all honesty I don't see how discussing what is and isn't religion and what is mental illness and what is true or not regarding religion has to do with secondlife other then maybe there are some people who like to debate it.
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08-07-2007 16:10
Yeah, I applaud Strife for waking up and locking that last one and hope there is a repeat with this one. I just wish that happened more often!

Talking about religion and politics with many of the people on this forum is like asking a toddler how to change an alternator in a Delorean.
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08-07-2007 16:10
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Yeah, I applaud Strife for waking up and locking that last one and hope there is a repeat with this one. I just wish that happened more often!

Talking about religion and politics with many of the people on this forum is like asking a toddler how to change an alternator in a Delorean.

Wait, they don't have flux capacitors?
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08-07-2007 16:11
From: Cristalle Karami
Wait, they don't have flux capacitors?


Those are the Catholic Deloreans. ;)
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08-07-2007 16:13
From: Har Fairweather

I really do want to get an intelligent discussion going here.


*waits for the "This forum isn't for general discussion; there are many Resident Sites where this discussion is appropriate — Resident Answers is for Resident-to-Resident help. I'll close this thread... :)"*
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08-07-2007 16:14
i think if Strife has locked a thread because it is not related to SL issues, at least in some regard - ie: SL residents requiring help, and the same thread keeps being reopened in disguise, Strife needs to consider a personal little note to said offenders - and about the repercussions to the offenders for continously breaking the rules.

SL resident answers to inworld issues is not the place for discussion of religion, politics, or mental illness...
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Har Fairweather
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08-07-2007 16:16
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two topics I dont think really should be on this forum are politics and religion simply because well I dont see how they relate to resident answers about second life issues. Just my opinion but in all honesty I don't see how discussing what is and isn't religion and what is mental illness and what is true or not regarding religion has to do with secondlife other then maybe there are some people who like to debate it.


I understand what you are saying - which applies to the OP (a troubled mind IMO) of the previous thread. What I would like to do here is get beyond the undiscussable opinions (meaning views impervious to reason no matter what) and get to bedrock issues of what can be discussed, and maybe resolved. What can be demonstrated or refuted is quite different from what is believed. Please help move things to what reality is in terms of SL and what can be demonstrated or disproved. That will help narrow down what is in the realm of whaqt cannot be proved or disproved, but only affirmed or denied, versus what caqn be dealt with reasonably. I think that would help SL and everyone involved in it.
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08-07-2007 16:17
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=Har Fairweather
I really do want to get an intelligent discussion going here.


Just a thought...You should start a group in-world and set up a place for people to meet to discuss this. That would be more appropriate and you'd probably get a more diverse crowd and better discussion than on this thing!

Hell, I'd even go if I thought it wouldn't turn into a flame-fest with no substance and plenty of silly insults.
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08-07-2007 16:18
From: Har Fairweather
Please help move things to what reality is in terms of SL and what can be demonstrated or disproved. That will help narrow down what is in the realm of whaqt cannot be proved or disproved, but only affirmed or denied, versus what caqn be dealt with reasonably. I think that would help SL and everyone involved in it.

we'd be happy to yack with you about this inworld. but, this really is not the right forum for discussion of 'what is reality'.... i don't see how it is - in any way- helpful to SL reisdents. in any capacity.
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08-07-2007 16:19
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Hell, I'd even go if I thought it wouldn't turn into a flame-fest with no substance and plenty of silly insults.

free entertainment. i wouldn't miss it! :p
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08-07-2007 16:27
From: 3Ring Binder
we'd be happy to yack with you about this inworld. but, this really is not the right forum for discussion of 'what is reality'.... i don't see how it is - in any way- helpful to SL reisdents. in any capacity.


yeah i guess what Im trying to say is the same as 3ring and squeeze. There are a few things here about discussing this kind of stuff on this forum

1) I think its wayyy off topic there is a line of what this forum will bear in terms of of topic weight and these types of discussion threads even the one that is closed went way past the mark in my opinion


2) Its mostly a philosophical thing of what if's and its not linked with any new feature really or even at this point are there say complaints about griefing or whatnot.

If say the threads pop up as a resultof some "broadly offensive" content lol or whatever it would fit in this forum as long as the off topic philosophical stuff was confined to the thread (but would understandably get locked eventually)


3) it clearly isn't a resident question not really even can we stretch it to that its again speculation and ideas and thoughts but no true issue just "what if's " as I said.


So to me it simply doesn't belong here and the two that seem obvious to me are religion and politics to be honest unless of course its related to a griefing experience or a new sim with a theme or something I truly dont see how it can fit in the forum and so it makes sense to me that it gets locked in fact I thought it would have been locked way faster then it was in fact a lot of threads are left open longer then I expect them to be with respect to their content.
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08-07-2007 16:36
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...in fact I thought it would have been locked way faster then it was in fact a lot of threads are left open longer then I expect them to be with respect to their content.


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08-07-2007 17:38
you cant get an intelligent discussion in a thread full of dry snitches! " i beleive that um this thread is um off topic and um should probably maybe ought to be maybe locked ..."tell em Jumpy Lane back! run tell that!
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08-07-2007 17:48
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you cant get an intelligent discussion in a thread full of dry snitches! " i beleive that um this thread is um off topic and um should probably maybe ought to be maybe locked ..."tell em Jumpy Lane back! run tell that!


Hey, Jumpman! I dig! But ya hear! If Resident Answers ain't da place for "intelligent discussion" for sumpn' like what Sl got ta do wit reality, hey, wat da fuk is Resident Answers for? Take that downtown and see if the man buy it. Uptown people wanna know what's real what ain't.

Ain't talkin' religion, necessarily ya know? Just reality. Some people maybe don't dig reality.

Dig it?
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