Cory's departure: what were the differences?
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-23-2010 21:01
In the email that Philip Rosedale sent to Linden staffers about Cory's departure, there was a passage that said: From: Philip Rosedale Cory and I have differences in how we think Linden should be run, differences that in the past few months have become irreconcilable. These are tensions that were more manageable when we were smaller, and there have been times that they have helped us do great work together. But now, as we change and grow as a company, I feel that we need a different set of strengths in engineering leadership. I strongly believe that this is the right decision, although not without pain, for both LL and Cory. Of course, I'm not going to go into the details of these differences. Anyone have any light to shed on what the differences were in how they thought Linden should be run? Perhaps the passage of time has allowed some info to surface that wasn't available at the time.
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01-23-2010 21:19
/me blinks.
Never saw that before. Both Philip and M have said they worked very, very closely to get M on board and in sync. I guess that tells us some bits..
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01-23-2010 21:38
From: Sindy Tsure /me blinks.
Never saw that before. I think you've just forgotten.
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01-23-2010 21:39
I've never heard or read that either. It seems to me that Phillip and Cory had an ongoing difference in opinions on what SL was to be or not be. Phillip, being the owner, won the battle. But, I think it pretty unprofessional to even mention the differences and difficulties the two had with each other in a public format. Not that it matters much since LL is going in the direction whoever it is that has the most say wants........but airing spats in public only fosters discontent among the rank and file. The users (residents) too.
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01-23-2010 21:41
OK I'll say it. The only person that can answer that question is Cory.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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01-23-2010 21:42
And if Cory is as smart as I think he is he won't.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-23-2010 21:42
Cory, or Philip, or anyone they might have talked about it with, or anyone who heard about from that group, etc.
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01-23-2010 21:45
It was a huge, shocking thing when it happened. Asking if anything has since come to light is understandable. I haven't read anything, myself.
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01-23-2010 21:46
Has anyone ever wondered how rumors and misinformation get started that grow into full fledged, polarizing fueds? Often filled with plain made up facts.
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01-23-2010 21:49
Philip said what he said, he said that they were at odds as to the direction that LL should take, and that Philip thought that the constant battling over it was counter productive, hence, his decision to let Cory go. As far as what those differences were, they were internal matters that I'm sure neither Philip or Cory would, or will now likely discuss since they are internal matters concerning how the company was ran. It's silly to ask such a question because businesses don't typically talk about internal, private matters regarding how a business is run. It's like asking a personal question, just not really pc to ask.
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01-23-2010 21:49
No, I don't think anyone wonders about that since the answer is obvious.
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01-23-2010 22:19
From: Osprey Therian I think you've just forgotten. Really? Hrm. Maybe. I can't remember.
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01-24-2010 05:24
From: Peggy Paperdoll I've never heard or read that either. It seems to me that Phillip and Cory had an ongoing difference in opinions on what SL was to be or not be. Phillip, being the owner, won the battle. But, I think it pretty unprofessional to even mention the differences and difficulties the two had with each other in a public format. Not that it matters much since LL is going in the direction whoever it is that has the most say wants........but airing spats in public only fosters discontent among the rank and file. The users (residents) too. I 100% agree with this. It does not instil confidence at all in how LL run their business.
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01-24-2010 05:25
Who's Cory again? 
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01-24-2010 05:36
What's Cory doing now? Compare where he appears to be going with where LL appears to be going.
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01-24-2010 05:48
From: Ceka Cianci Who's Cory again?  Cory Ondrejka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_OndrejkaCory Ondrejka is a software developer best known as the former Chief Technology Officer of Linden Lab, makers of Second Life. With Philip Rosedale, Ondrejka co-founded Second Life and played a significant role in the architecture of the product. After leaving Linden Lab, Ondrejka became Senior Vice President of Digital Strategy for the EMI Group[1] until he left EMI in September 2009. Ondrejka is a former US Navy officer and graduate of the US Naval Academy. He earned a joint undergraduate degree in Computer Science and Weapons and Systems Engineering, and has the distinction of being the first Annapolis graduate to do so.  current web site: http://ondrejka.net/
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01-24-2010 05:57
From: SuezanneC Baskerville Cory Ondrejka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_OndrejkaCory Ondrejka is a software developer best known as the former Chief Technology Officer of Linden Lab, makers of Second Life. With Philip Rosedale, Ondrejka co-founded Second Life and played a significant role in the architecture of the product. After leaving Linden Lab, Ondrejka became Senior Vice President of Digital Strategy for the EMI Group[1] until he left EMI in September 2009. Ondrejka is a former US Navy officer and graduate of the US Naval Academy. He earned a joint undergraduate degree in Computer Science and Weapons and Systems Engineering, and has the distinction of being the first Annapolis graduate to do so.  current web site: http://ondrejka.net/Thank you..I'm not up on who is who.it took me a year after getting here to realize who Philip was lol 
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01-24-2010 05:58
Cory made me laugh. He has a nice sarcastic smart alecky sense of humor, at least in his speeches.
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01-24-2010 06:11
Sue, do you have a special reason to ask this just now?
For example, do you suspect Cory may have a role at LL again?
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01-24-2010 06:22
From: Qie Niangao Sue, do you have a special reason to ask this just now?
For example, do you suspect Cory may have a role at LL again? Re "do you suspect Cory may have a role at LL again?", no, nothing like that. It just came up in my endless surfing. Something led me to Prok's blogging and Massively's story on Cory's departure. I just like to know what's up with Linden Lab. It's the history of virtual worlds.
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01-24-2010 07:29
Well, aside from the loss of a really attractive man (always a tragedy!) the answer is right there in the first sentence from Philip "Cory and I have differences in how we think Linden should be run." Not SL, Linden. That Philip eventually had to leave himself in order for LL to be run more like a company, pretty much speaks volumes. It wasn't so much the direction of SL, but how the company should be run. Those are not the same things.
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01-24-2010 07:37
Just scanned through htis and I jus wonder if it is really any of our business to comment upon the infrastructure of teh company. It's like getting worked up about why teh general manager of knitting technology of Sainsbury's has been replaced, isnt it? Lindens offer a paid-for service and I pay for it. They offer somehting to consume: I am a consumer. I consume. (danke  )
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01-24-2010 07:53
From: Johan Laurasia It's silly to ask such a question because businesses don't typically talk about internal, private matters regarding how a business is run. It's like asking a personal question, just not really pc to ask. From: Jig Chippewa I jus wonder if it is really any of our business to comment upon the infrastructure of teh company. I can understand that lots of folks might be incurious about this, but I don't see why curiosity should be stifled. Is it a PC question? Who cares? These guys were in the press constantly, each giving their different visions for the company to journalists. SueC's question could best be answered by someone who was puzzled by differences between those visions-on-record, and I think it's perfectly reasonable for her to fish around and see if any of us knows. Jig, I am astonished that you come down on the side of stifling anyone's curiosity about anything. You are endlessly curious about the details of others' personal lives, which surely is *less* of anyone's business than the management structure of LL? Personally, I didn't follow the press that closely, and after the event both have been silent on the issue. Cory and Philip appear to each be pursuing their separate dreams; if you want Cory's take on directions companies should now be taking, there's a largish slideset on his website that gives his personal take on that. .
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01-24-2010 07:57
From: Jig Chippewa Just scanned through htis and I jus wonder if it is really any of our business to comment upon the infrastructure of teh company. It's like getting worked up about why teh general manager of knitting technology of Sainsbury's has been replaced, isnt it? Lindens offer a paid-for service and I pay for it. They offer somehting to consume: I am a consumer. I consume. (danke  ) i can see a lot of people that have invested a lot of rl money into their sl businesses wanting to get a feel for it's direction.. it really is their business to know where the service they chose is going to take them so they can opt in or out.. 
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01-24-2010 08:01
From: Nika Talaj Jig, I am astonished that you come down on the side of stifling anyone's curiosity about anything. You are endlessly curious about the details of others' personal lives, which surely is *less* of anyone's business than the management structure of LL? . Yeah but (all cheekiness aside) they're "suits" - they just cant be cool however hard they try. It's neat of them to be there for us but its suit-time when they speak. They know that. They leave all the contriversy to us. Kinda like "Anarchy in teh UK" with a lindenish twist. They have a sorta appeal like any exec has when they know youre in the building. I bet we make great bedtime reading for them. They wont scupper resident answers unless big time upshots make them do so.
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