Camping

This is why several of us have been arguing for an end to traffic based placement on the search list, if not traffic itself. I would prefer to see LL based advertising based on revenues, much like the classified ads--with more in-world, resident based advertising solutions. And don't tell me that cuts the little guy out. It takes a lot of work to make up a t-shirt with your business's name on it, I admit--but it only costs 10L to upload the texture. Do that. Make it copy/mod/trans. Give a copy to Yadni's and one to LL for placement in the Help Islands newbie stores. If you've got a good t-shirt with a catchy design on it, you'll find newbies wandering around the world advertising your business for you.

And that kind of thinking is PRECISELY how people like Amie Weber got to where they are today--through hard work and creative solutions. Not through traffic numbers, not through camping chairs, but through hard work, dedication, and vision.

Kam

Just to prove Colette wrong, when we reach the day where there is no financial sense to pay campers (ie LL removes the traffic concept) I myself will provide a camping spot.
I have no interest in traffic i just watned to prove camping will never die unless there is something better to replace it.

So when there absolutely no more spot to camp in SL, i will open up 1 camping hair to bring it back to life(unless someone has invented an easier way for newbies and the unskilled to make money).

In this case it will make financial sense to you - becuase its worth the money to you to prove me wrong.

Why - I have no clue

Go for it though - if the only reason left for campers is to Spite Me who really won?

Actually, then Rocketman's camping chair would be a museum piece, an artifact of a bygone era of historical interest. It might even be a draw to his place...

Oh, please, no... we have enough trouble with camping chairs, let's not add the newbies walking around carrying sandwich boards to the list as well.

It's called "Click the blue L$ in the top right corner and buy some."

Pretty much everyone is sitting in a house or apartment, on a chair, at a desk, using a puter, connected to the internet, consuming electricity. All of which are things they bought or have monthly expenses for, except for some mysterious reason SL should be exempt. There is really no reason what so ever why someone can not simply buy L$ if they need any.

Traffic doesn't even have to vanish, just count the traffic of premiums and active payment info used (spent US$ in the last 30 days) and ignore everyone else's. If the only way to get decent traffic is to attract those who don't need "free" money it will have to be by offering quality entertainment or service.

I have no problem with them it looks cute, are they causing your AV physical pain in some way?
And it shows they're not just zombies, I was at a shop talking to a german newbie wearing one who told me he had been ejected & banned from a shop for wearing it. I apologised to him for the rude behavior of some people in SL and gave him $100L towards the DCS stuff he wanted.

Buying Linden dollars with your credit card results in a bill in the mailbox, stating that "you have put more money into SL again". The electricity bill will come anyway, without a specification what the electricity was used for.

I fail to see the distinction.

you can fudge the electric costs factor to your significant other, but the big bold lindenx charge on your credit card is hard to explain away.

So there you are in your store on your private island, both of which you've paid a lot of money for. You've just paid L$200,000 to get your store to the top of classifieds and in comes the tenth sandwichboard noob of the day with "Click me for a LM to a competitor, and go someplace else". You politely ask them not to advertise in your store and they ignore you or abuse you. Cute? Who's being rude when you eject and ban them?

No, they cause a lot of lag, and distract from other things.

Most popular locations either are businesses themselves (and don't spend that money to advertise competitors), or sell advertising in order to pay the bills. Having people being able to insinuate advertisements for other businesses inside without paying, by making it part of their avatar, is of no benefit to anyone and can wind up getting people banned.

There is a much better solution to your domestic problem, Uvas. Draw up your household budget to have three categories: "his money," "her money," and "our money," in which the latter consists of the agreed-upon joint-responsibility expenses, like say, the rent or mortgage payment. He doesn't have to account for any of "his" money, he can spend it on anything he pleases. She doesn't have to account for any of "her" money, she can spend hers on anything she pleases. (If you're a gay couple, nothing changes except the pronouns.) Trust me, a LOT of unnecessary arguments will go away with this arrangement.

[This is a public service announcement brought to you by the Make Love Not War At Home Foundation.]

If you have to explain it away, maybe you should't be on SL in the First Place

They could use paypal to make a few online purchases then squeeze the lindens in ;p

Really though its immaterial - keeping the traffic system alive to help people sneak on their spouse; Or to allow Kids to do stuff their parents dont want - Is a stupid way to do business.

I thought we were talking about t-shirts?

In any case, more fool you to pay L$200,000 to get your store to the top of classifieds when wise shoppers start at the bottom of the list.

Yeah, if you consider the gun store he advertised as competition to the womens hair place he was kicked out of.
Yes you are being rude and if it was me I would have filed an abuse report, he wasn't big on English so anyone that likes kicking poor noob foreigners around can do so at their leisure I suppose. No replying may just mean they can't speak English great excuse to eject & ban is it?

You are silly enough to spend that much on advertising, you probably dumb enough to expect to get it back. It's a game, get over it, attacking the other players isn't the way to win either.

LOL the competition probably have a better turn over from 10 guys walking around with signs than others do from filling a store with of campers and $200,000L worth of multiple AAAAAAAA adverts.

Forget Land sales easy money here is in advertising.............

Bullcrap the guy was exploring, he spent no longer in the store than anyone else there, if anything I kept him there longer by talking to the guy when perhaps I should have orbited him if I'd been a store owner? Probably should have orbited me too for causing lag in a sim with 6 people in it by taking too long to shop.

Personally, if I see other people advertising on my land, they get kicked out and banned, no questions asked. I don't care if that other product isn't in competition with me or not -- if someone wants to use my land for advertising purposes, they can pay me.

What if you'd like to also reach the 'unwise' shopper?

You put more AAAAAAAAAAA's at the start of your advert.

Yeah, just remember to set your dogs on the next person to walk onto your RL property wearing a Reebok T-shirt too then'

Getting your kicks from ejecting noobs is poor attitude, please also remove your name etc from the products you sell too, it's our bodies wearing it and you should be paying us to advertise for you.

Please ban me too, so I don't accidently shop at your establishment.
And if you want to use MY sandbox to rez MY prims you can pay me for it too.

They aren't using your land, they're using their chests. You must be very ban-happy if you would ban someone just for wandering in wearing a branded t-shirt.

Edit: Cross-posted with the above.

Branded T shirt is one thing. Dynamically scripted prim billboards is an entirely different case, and you know it.

Although, to be honest, I don't recall ever seeing anyone actually wearing an obviously branded piece of clothing.

This is a totally different issue than a "branded t-shirt". People aren't going to TP out of my shop and go buy something from Adidas because the lable is on the shirt.

Don't those "walking billboards" do something like giving a landmark if someone not wearing it clicks on it?

If this is true, then someone could be in MY (future) shop, browsing and getting ready to buy. Then one of these things walks in, they get distracted by the ad, click on it, TP away, and take away my business.

Yes, I would ban the person wearing it, and I would complain to the owner or whoever's name was on the object. I don't want people walking in my shop and taking away my business.

It's no better than someone coming in my shop and spamming people with notecards about their business. They are paying someone to spam customers in MY shop.

If SL businesses want to advertise in my place of business, they will pay for it. Otherwise, they will get complaints from me.

It's not like branded tshirts AT ALL. It's businesses that are taking away MY customers. I would not tolerate that.