My Neighbor's Land

I merely used myself as an example when I mentioned a month without logging in (because I have done exactly that in the past....a few times, not just once or twice). A month to me could be the equivalent to a year to someone else..........it's a matter of perspective. What you suggested is that because, from your perspective, the land is neglected by the owner. And because of this "neglect" LL should take action to satisfy what you consider the "proper" way to tend to one's business..........what, for the good of the masses? Or is it because you want the land for yourself? Either, in my opinion, is acceptable. Dispite the fact that LL is sometimes slow to reclaim truly abandoned land it's more likely the land is being paid for in some way by the owner (or one or more of his/her group designated "owners". The time frame since the last log in is irrevelant as long as the land is being paid for...........LL would have no legitimate reason to reclaim the land and give you the opportunity to purchase it. Plus, since there is the yearly payment option it's possible the owner simply let it go because LL won't refund the unused portion of the $72 paid (I'd do that myself, in fact). You do not have any way of knowing yet you think because it's ugly or being "wasted" you should get cleaned up or put in the market again for recycling or some such thing. I'm saying that is wrong. That's all.......not hard to understand. Not hard to see my logic either.

Yeah, that's all true, and in many cases there's somebody paying for the land, and probably it's in LL's best interest to "let sleeping dogs lie", lest an email alert the tier-payer to what's been hitting the monthly credit card bill for the last few years.

On the other hand, there are those charter members who will never return to discover their bonus 4096s are now chock full of hoverboards stranded in mid-air since 2004.

And there are the more numerous cases of premium members with bonus 512s--often their free First Land--that they randomly terraformed in 2006, scattered a few plywood boxes, left build enabled, and simply vanished--but are still premium members, probably by neglect. Should LL try to contact them and offer different land*--at the risk of reminding them to downgrade their accounts?

I don't know. I've had land near some of those totally neglected bonus 512s. It wasn't that I wanted to own the parcels, but they sure collected crap, and I eventually dumped everything that borders such land and moved on to better locations. Other people bought the land I dumped, of course, and are presumably paying some tier, so... hard to see what's in it for LL to change anything.

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*I don't read anybody to be suggesting that LL should just confiscate land without giving the owners a fair chance to find equivalent or better land if they're interested. Of course, if they're interested enough to respond to any notification, the land probably wouldn't have been neglected for years.

Sorry, I found the post too hard to read, lack of indentation etc. Maybe also because it seems as if you are mistaking my meaning and intent to a significant degree.

It isn't a matter of perspective. One rule to fit them all.

A year (or more) in which land accumulates random junk does not help anyone. Is LL trying to shiny up the apple, or not?

As Qie pointed out, though, it's probably in their financial interest, at least short term and on paper, to leave sleeping dogs lie - after all, cha-ching. Tier pays. (Except in cases of first land, which is and was always free.)

But, what's wrong with nudging someone to come in and set auto return, or have the Lindens do so? That was my main point, after all. The thing about nullifying the parcel was an ancillary point. At no point did I say that was as simple as that, either. It would have to have a procedure that was fair, helpful and also efficient.

Simply put: no one wants to live next to a garbage dump.

And NO it isn't because I "want the land." A strange accusation - there is a lot of such land in SL (who could buy it all?) and plenty of available land for sale as it is.

I stopped arguing because Peggy is entitled to her opinion, although I totally disagree with it neither of us is making LL policy (if there is a policy, that is). One thing that you, and I, and also in Qie's post, referred to is junked up crap. Peggy seems to feel that that is a matter of opinion, and what is junk to one could be a lovely collage of.....important items.....to another. That divide is too big for me to cross. So, we will have to agree to disagree.

Good point, and I didn't mean to seem as if I was arguing.

My blood pressure rarely rises in here - an eyebrow, sometimes, maybe.

Good to know

Mine niether. To me SL is a GAME. I "play" it as a game so someone's trashy parcel simply does not bother me one bit. Heck, even someone's "beautiful" build often does not impress me.

I guess I should point out that in my post a couple up from here I mixed the OP's comments with yours........she/he mentioned she/he wanted the land. Not you........sorry for not clarifying that.

I have a 150-prim copy/mod giant japanese house. When one neighbor moved out, I flew up to 3600m, and rezzed it 9 times, then filled in random other prims.

If you leave build on with auto-return within sight of my land, I'm going to use your prims before a sim-griefer does.

Even if build is OFF, people can rez things on land which has auto return set to 0.

I personally just think it should not be possible to set an autoreturn of 0.

Any value up to 200 I could see reasonable. But 0... no.
- If you want to allow open building, use a land group and give perms.

That would mean for a casual friend or someone I might try to help out with building (which I do sometimes) would have to be in my group. I would also have set levels of permissions for each type of member. That's not what I made my group for..........it's for me, my alt(s), and two close real life friends and their alts. My alts have owner privileges all others have everything but owner privileges. I'd have to set another level.......something I don't want to do. It also would prevent a few friends who don't want to be in my group (which is good since I would not invite them in the first place) from rezzing their vehicles on my land to drive on the adjoining Linden owned pathways (presently being improved to a full blown Linden road and rail road).........something I've allowed a select few for 2 or 3 years to do.

Not a good choice for, at least, a few of us.