My Neighbor's Land

Soo, a few weeks back, a few 512m2 lands were up for sale around my shop.

I was planning on purchasing one that is adjacent to mine, but a guy comes and buys all 3 lands and combines them. I met him that day, hes 500 days old ish yet he still seemed like he didnt know some basic SL stuff. For example, he asked me how to put something up for sale. I told him, then he puts out a bunch of full perm vehicles out on sale, leaves, and was never seen again.

He never changed the name, photo, or anything that is in the land info, and rezzing was enabled the whole time. So, other neighbors are starting to build on his land. I also contacted him, but no response still.

I was wondering if there is a way to get the 512 land I wanted. How long will it take for a land to be considered abandoned? If Lindens get it, can I ask them to separate it into 512s?

As long as his account is active, and he is paying tier, the Lindens will take no action to retrieve his land. If the land in question is only a 512 (yes I know--but this is just a ferinstance) they can keep the land tied up for years so long as they continue to pay the $72 yearly premium member fee. No need to ever log on again.

Since they have bought more than 512, then they'll have to pay tier. If the neglect it, eventually, (I think it's a month--I could be wrong) the land will be reclaimed and put into the auction que. From that point, it would likely be owned by Governor Linden for months.

This is evidently on mainland so as long as he continues paying LL the premium fee and his monthly tier the land will never be considered abandoned by LL. His leaving object entry and rezz rigtht to all residents is another thing LL won't do anything about. It's his land, you can do as he pleases with it. That includes puting full perm items up for sale and never coming back online. He can let anyone put as many prims on his place as his prim allowance for the land allows. There's not a thing you can do except contact him and make him an offer for the chunk of land you want.........if he refuses then that's the way it is.

Oh, and I'm much older than 500'ish days old..........and still unclear on exactly how to put anything up for sale. Not sure why you included that in the post.

The easiest thing is to just move somewhere else. With so much land up for sale it shouldn't be too hard to find another convenient place. It may cost a few L$, but saves a lot in nerves and ease of mind.

I have a similar Plot next to me that has a dreadful build and a bunch of plain boxes 10x10 at 100 meters mid air.It's been that way for 14 months and no one visits.
I screen it as best I can ,and now with emerald I make it invisible for me.
Still waiting for this jerk to show up .

And MY neighbours' land....

On one side... a 128 m plot where there has been a giant domino and a black and white picture of a man with a bushy beard for over 2 years - rezzed by the owner shortly after they joined SL - their profile is blank and I've never seen them.

On the other side - a large area bought at auction about 2 years ago - owner rezzed a small shelter right next to mine and hasn't been seen since - again profile is blank. That land was previously owned for a year by another absentee who never did anything.

I reckon it's just people who don't check their credit card statements and so their subscriptions are automatically renewed.

It's a bit sneaky, but one way of dealing with neglected land that's left open-build is to make a neat pack or prims, make them very small and discreet and thus use up the owner's prim allowance. That will stop anyone else rezzing something horrible, big and ugly on the land.

I did this on some land before it was finally deemed abandoned... they don't need to be that discreet, just bury them underground.

Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's land.

Fat chance! I just put a ticket in because I want my neighbor's land.

Then you shall, be smitten....smited......smithed....uhm.....in a lot of trouble.

It's harder not to covet his wife!

smitten works. I don't mind being smitten - I just don't want to be there when it happens.

We had 3 of those on Whitesun that people were just building on because they could; all owned by the same person, all named 'First Land', I've been there 2 years and never seen them. The guy that owns the rest of the sim contacted LL because I was whining (they were right behind my land) and the next day a Linden was on the land cleaning it off. They were set to auction 2 days later. Maybe just need to report it and see what happens, at least it will start them checking into those parcels to see if they are still validly owned.

My favorites are the neighbors that want your land that you ARE using.

Starts with IM's we want to buy and will pay you well and often degenerates into harassing builds, noise etc.

I usually tell em I have been all over this grid for over 5 years. I have seen the tactics. I am not impressed. We are not moving. Thanks to thier tactics if we ever DO move I will make sure the land goes to anyone BUT them.

I've got one of those now. Pretty much what I'm doing too.

My neighbor's land (Vintage Village) is such awesomeness that a photo of it is featured on the login page. You can even see my store off to the right if you squint your eyes and look real close.

I will never go back to mainland.

Some original members, seemingly in the utopian spirit of first SLers, left 'first land' thinking someone would claim it to live on, in some equitable way. They didn't foresee people who would dump prims for fun.

I wish all parcels that have obviously sat abandoned for months or longer would at least get auto return set to 1. What could anyone have against that?

There is just so much litter that could be cleaned up if the Lindens would roam around setting auto return on all neglected parcels to 1.

(It would be even better if unused parcels - I'm talkng, a year or longer without the owner checking in - would be reclaimed by LL but that won't happen.)

Does that include land that is being dutifully paid for? I own a parcel of land and the "official owner" (me) has been known to not log in for a month or so ( have an alt who is not the listed owner). You going to take my land because you want it?

I don't think you thought that through.

Although maybe they could send out an email to those long unused accounts, saying something about a "Mainland Renewal Initiative" requiring that they relocate the parcels. Offer them the choice of some prime parcels elsewhere, and when they don't respond within a month just push them all onto some island of misfit prims, perhaps alongside the remaining microparcel extortionists.

In my case, as mentioned in my earlier post, it was 2 years, not a month. And it was set to 0 auto return, so people did indeed come and just build, one guy rezzed a whole street, house, went all into the sky, etc. The 3 512 parcels were side by side. Took a Linden to sort that, but not for 2 years. Is that a long enough time to figure you may not be coming back, especially with crap piled sky high that isn't yours?

It's not out of the realm that I would not log in this account for 2 years.........I use my alt almost exclusively in SL. I mainly only log in to give my alt some money to play with since she's basic and it's easier to give lindens to her than to buy lindens (cheaper too). Thoush I do guard my prim allowance like gold I have my land set to 0 (zero) autoreturn. I also sometimes forget to turn off "all residents" on the object entry, rezz rights (my alt has owner rights on my group owned land).

Qie's suggestion, though I believe it was in jest, makes more sense.

Then, if that were the case, a simple query from a Linden would alert you to the fact that you need to deal with your land, as the trashy state of it is impacting the neighbors, right? I'm not suggesting that they just grab the land without checking to see if it is indeed truly owned by someone who's got some other reason for not checking on it. My main parcels are on estate land; that's where I live, play, sometimes I rarely leave my estate for weeks at a time. But....since I also own some parcels on Whitesun (mainland) I also check on them. Every day or every other day at least. To make sure nothing weird is going on, or anything has gone haywire. (example, my visitor counter somehow changed itself to start shouting at passerby, HELLO, AVATAR! I'd had it set for a long time to not say anything at all, to just record the visitors, and I'd check it when I went over there. But since it changed, at least by checking on it, I was able to fix it before someone complained about it, or it negatively impacted someone else. *shrug* I guess it's just me, and that's ok, I just think that if people are going to own land they should check on it sometimes, since so much can go wrong, and negatively impact someone else's space.

An owners of parcels that are "commercial" in nature are very unlikely to not log in regularly. My land is not such a parcel. And as far as the parcel in question is concerned I highly doubt it's commercial in nature. What I questioned is someone suggesting that because an owner does not log in for a specified period of time and, in someone's opinion, the land is be "neglected" that LL reclaim the land.............without reguard to the fact that the land is being paid for by someone who can pay for it. Be it a week, month, year or even 5 years that is a pretty bold suggestion. Just because the person wants the land they think that the person who owns the land should be required to give it up since they "obviously don't want it".

That is what I'm questioning. In the context of the subject of the thread and the statement is what I'm objecting to. I didn't aak how well you tend to your land. I didn't make a judgement on how well or poorly the absent owner of the land in question tends to his/her parcel. I'm objecting to the suggestion that LL should take the land from someone, even if it's being paid for, simply because they want it and using "neglect" or the absence of apparent logging in for what the person thinks is an unacceptable period of time. And that LL should give special consideration to the OP in awarding the purchase to them. What you (or I) think neglect may well be exactly the opposite to the owner of that parcel.

The land team is notoriously slow in detecting people who have left the game for whatever reason. Land may be sitting there that appears to be paid for, when the owner is no longer in the game. If they are not in the game, then they are not losing anything.

No one is suggesting that LL take someone's land from them if they are actively playing. However, ionly LL can determine if the person is still active and paying for the land. A support ticket should resolve that.

Yes, I did. I didn't say one month, I said something close to a year.

I will clarify, though, that I meant the person, not the avatar.

So, thanks for the chance to clarify.

I like Qie's idea of an email.

Yes, some will be disgruntled, but more are disgruntled now, by all the garbage on the mainland, that isn't even the land owner's. At the very least I'd like to see auto return set on obviously neglected/abandoned lots. It would only return strangers' prims - yes, and those not set properly on group land.

If someone hasn't been in SL a year or more they may not even realize they are still a member.