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Have the Lindens starting doing anything about copy cat designers?

Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
07-30-2007 13:40
From: Arikinui Adria
Yeah...she wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer :)

Giving away the original coat will certainly undercut his chances of making a profit from your BF's hard work.

Most prim items need to be modifiable for customers to adjust them, and I for one am not going to penalize my customers because some lazy person decides to copy a design. It just doesn't make good sense from a business standpoint.

I know it's frustrating and a little insulting, but I don't worry about these people for several reasons:
- They appear to be quite limited in their own creativity if they need to copy someone else's items to a T in order to produce a quality product to sell. I have no issues if they want to learn how to create using my items, and I'm happy to answer basic questions if they ask. We all need to start somewhere.

- Running a successful business takes many, many hours of hard work. Designing/creating the items is the easiest part IMO, but the question remains: will they be around in 1,3, or 6 months when they realize marketing, customer service, land fees are part of the bargain as well and take a lot of time, energy and money?

- Some people will buy the copied version simply because it's priced lower, but loyal customers will continue to shop at my store because of the customer service, continual addition of new products, and the fact that my store will be around for as long as SL is still a viable financial platform.

Whatever you decide to do Baby I wish you the best! IM me in world and I'll buy you a drink and we can share stories and hopefully have a nice giggle :)

~Ari



Yeah I"m beginning to find this out. Awhile back I guy had threatened to copy and sell several items I make. The problem was he said it would only take a few minutes that's when I clued in that anything he did sell was likely not even made by him. I have now been threatened twice and had a few other things happen to me over time. I still keep most clothing no modify (mainly because it makes no difference to ad the modify feature anyhow cause well pants are pants they are like one length and one size fits all type deal really) I was considering removing modify from my prim items which of course would make them only fit certain sized people. The more I looked at those who threatened to copy and release "full perm" the more I realized that they themselves could actually not do much if anything themselves.

I'm now back to running things the way I used to.

I had not thought though of the idea of selling a "generic" brand as well and might consider it though as to me its a good idea. I have never thought ill of any companies in real world that did that. I would simply say "oh that's actualy Intell stuff" and buy it because it was in fact made by by intel and worked almost the same way and I Liked intel. If I disliked a company (I hate compaq with a passion) and I knew their generic brands I would not buy them as well so really it made no difference to me. But then i'm not into buying something for the name only I buy it because its a decent product. (well except windows I was one of the last dos holdouts and only started using windows when they released windows 2000 Pro about 6 months before XP was released lol i use windows because well most things work withwindows and I was put between a rock and a hard place) in any event I seem to have started rambling so I will shut up now.

umm yeah so the threats I kinda got used to them. To me it actually means I'm doing something right and still being a person who has like no confidence in my abilities this is ao good thing. (does that feeling ever go away? its been like a year and I still feel that way..)
Max Pitre
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Join date: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 370
07-30-2007 15:01
I'm so sick of all those people making the same one prim .5x.5x.5 wooden box as mine!
Aleister Montgomery
Minding the gap
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 846
07-30-2007 15:08
From: Ricky Lucero
Do you have a patent or even any copyright on your product? When you get a patent or copyright, then there's nothing you can do about it. Until then, not LL's problem, and completely legal for anyone to make their own product that looks like yours. That's the ENTIRE reason for patents. Whether they copied prim for prim, or it just looks similar.


Stop posting nonsense please.
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Bod Redgrave
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Join date: 25 Dec 2006
Posts: 52
07-30-2007 15:08
From: Max Pitre
I'm so sick of all those people making the same one prim .5x.5x.5 wooden box as mine!


AHA - mine is .25x.25x.25 - is that half a prim? :confused:
Max Pitre
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Join date: 19 Jul 2006
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07-30-2007 15:15
From: Bod Redgrave
AHA - mine is .25x.25x.25 - is that half a prim? :confused:


You only get in half as much trouble as all the others...
Bod Redgrave
Palm Tree Dweller
Join date: 25 Dec 2006
Posts: 52
07-30-2007 15:27
From: Max Pitre
You only get in half as much trouble as all the others...


Better make mine .1x.1x.1 - cos I always get into trouble ;)
Betty Doyle
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Join date: 15 Aug 2006
Posts: 336
07-30-2007 15:50
While having a prim piece of my clothing copied in that manner would annoy me, the way I look at it is if they don't have the creativity or are too lazy to create their own prims to start with, what are the chances they are going to take the time and effort or have the creativity to make a good texture to go on it? So make sure your textures shine, and I don't think you have a whole lot to worry about from copy cats. Even the best clothing primwork is usually taken down a notch when someone just slaps some flat texture on it ... IMHO.
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Kitty Barnett
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Join date: 10 May 2006
Posts: 5,586
07-30-2007 17:20
From: Bod Redgrave
As soon as you allow Modify into an item you are selling, you are allowing them to take your hard-work apart piece by piece, and thus each prim can be copied and reconstructed, thus they then become the creator.

If you buy Land, it shows when you bought it. Unfortunately, when you create an object for sale, there is no date on it, so it can be difficult to prove who is the original creator and who the copy-cat is.

I design and create textured objects from 1 Prim to 200+ Prims.

1 Prim objects are Copy & Modify, so you can change the size etc.

2+ Prim objects are Copy only - No Modify allowed, thus safeguarding my creation and work put into making it in the first place. Thus safeguarding anyone linking their own item to it and becoming the "new" creator.
I'm sorry, but that's just nonsense. No mod doesn't keep things from getting copied, it just inconveniences legitimate customers.

The sim exposes all the prim data and parameters because that's the way things can get rendered on anyone's client side. Copybot was one illustration of that and mod or no-mod doesn't make any bit of difference.

Also, right-click, More > More > Inspect shows you the build date of any rezzed or attached prim (or the date it was last shift-copied) and who created the prim(s).
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