Completely enclosing neighbors land

You are correct in that the billable housr are billable to no one but me since it was MY HOME. That is exactly the point...The hours that would have to be duplicted on new property...ARE billable today since they are available to me to spend on my RL clients. If I take those to redo somrthing here then it is a loss.

basic accounting always requires 2 sides to every entry

Are you going to write yourself a big fat invoice for services? and because you have to admit, it's kinda funny. No mean intentions I swear

So you expect that your neighbor has liability for your lost time because you weren't paying attention when you started your build? No wonder ours is an overly litiginous society.

I don't know where I fall on the overall issue (on the one hand it would suck to have my house boxed in, on the other hand you have a right to build whatever you want on your land) but I do think it's a bit much to expect that your neighbor is liable for your mistake.


Yeah, I get this same sense. If you aren't willing to entertain any answer other than the one you want, then why ask the question?

You can turn on View --> Land Owners to see at a glance which land is for sale.

This replaces ground textures with simple colors, in a color-coded scheme.

Your land shows up as green.
Land not for sale shows up as red.
Land for sale shows up as yellow.
Group-deeded land sometimes shows up as blue, I think.

Note however, land that is "for sale" for L$ 999,999,999 isn't really for sale. So due diligence would involve not only verifying for-sale status but also the sale price. Merely relying on the presence of a "For Sale" sign certainly isn't enough.

Consider any possible pressure tactics with care... he could put a casino on his 512 after all and lag you out of your home. Welcome to the mainland.

One thing to consider, blocking off your neighbors view with opaque walss has been considered as against TOS and the Lindens have responded accordingly. You can put up a wall to block your view of a neighbor's property but the side facing them must be transparent.
Do you really want them to be able to stare in to the middle of your home without you seeing them?

Just like all the posts on the Blog that say database issues Resolved....TP issues resolved...etc...
Might Not really be resolved but what the heck.

We did exactly what you describe once, and the walls were returned to us by Matthew Linden. Without any communication from him at all. The person was also removed from our lands banlist.

Ekainus,Your space on the X, and Y axis' may be Limited, but Z gives you 785 meters to Play with. Think in Three Dimensions. why not simply Skybox your estate? Even Big ones can be Elevated with the addition of a Few Prims. You get Lass lag, you can defend it with a security system, and you Don't need to "Airshaft" your neighbors Land.

Conversely, Message your neighbor, explain your Problems, and Offer to Purchase HIM a suitable Skybox that would Fit his Property. An act of Good will like that wouldn't cost you very much (Nothing if you can build it yourself) and it goes a LONG way to showing your true quality as a Person, and a neighbor.

Angel.

few ways around this. see if they want to trade a 512 with you in an area that won't build around them, if they don't want to then screw them....your land build, on it and who cares what they think seeing as they didn't take the offer. you pay enough money for it.

Build a wall around it, that is transparent from the inside(so they can see out), but has image on the outside so you can't see whats in it and a setting of phantom on the objects(so it allows anyone to pass thru), that way they can not say it is blocking them from it.
Finally ban the owner, you have the right to ban anyone from your land, so they wil just have to fly over your lands ban lines to get to their land.

actually you aren't allowed to ban someone if it will cover all sides of his land

I'm surprised nobody else has quoted this point even if only to deny it!
If it's true then it gives Ekeinus his answer. The other guy's in the wrong?
He says issue resolved ... would have liked to know in what way.

I am a bit surprised that anyone would buy bunches of lots without putting the 'land for sale' option on on the map to see exactly what was for sale. This would have brought the not for sale bit to attention.

I have been in a similar situation - I owned a whole sim bar 1024m which belonged to someone who had been there for years. I offered him considerably over the going rate, he declined. And from then I treated him with the utmost respect (I hope). After all, he was there before me and had every right to his bit of land. I did not build right up against his land, I left a 'buffer zone' which he agreed was nice for him. I also offered him 'sandbox' room on any of my empty land until I got around to using it. His land's theme did not match mine at all (I had an Egyptian Temple, he had a psychadelic fishing shack), but I think we got on all right. I was always accutely aware of my responsibility as the larger land owner to not compromise him.

I now own 2/3 of Tupi - again, as the person owning the most land in the sim I consider it my reponsibility to do nothing to upset my neighbors. I have made descreet barriers with trees (I sell prefabs and don't want people bothering one of my neighbors if they think her house is one I am selling) and spent time trying to ensure that they have decent views.

This 512m owner was there before you. You knew they were there before you started building (or at least should have done), so it is up to you to take that into account. Boxing them in is a horrible thing to do - just think, would you like that?

The person with the 512 has returned my most recent offer, which was to buy him a 1024 immediately adjacent to this issue on the same sim.

Also he fessed up that he saw me coming down the sim buying property and removing FOR SALE signs as I went along and bought this property with the hope of exactly this situation benefiting him .

The resolution (so far) has been that now from his point of view there are 2 land owners abutting him each with 2 sides of his land

In all of the 512 farms out there there bust be ppl who have 4 abutteds and all four have banlines, I doubt you have any recource to multiple abutters.

If it were me I would put him or her my access list . Then if there is a problem I would just take them off.

ok, so 4 different peopel live around a 5th, they all ban anyone but them, now that means that person is banned on all sides!! it can and does haopen, that is what flight is for. to fly over and down or TP to your home.
or offer to switch him a piece from the side of the area, so he still land the same size and he take over the center land a land switch.

That's the only bit I'd personally consider a bit unfriendly. Banlines are a blight, and it'd annoy anyone to have to fly and try to fall into a 512 parcel in the middle of a field of banlines. Can't you add that person to the access list since they live next door and you probably want to keep on good terms with them?

Gillian, this is known in economics as "opportunity cost". For example, when considering whether to stop work and go for a Master's degree, to compare cost/benefit, you consider what you're making now, what you would make after, what it costs, and how many years it would take to recoup.

And, when considering the cost, you include the lost income from a year of not working at your current salary. If you don't do this, you're not making a rational decision (from a purely financial viewpoint).

Seriously: if a guy is self-employed or bills by the hour, every hour he could work but spends working on his own stuff literally costs him his billing rate (discounted by his marginal tax rate).

Like they say "time is money". In this case, the time can be equated to a very specific amount of money.

PS: No, I'm not an accountant.