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Graciella Princess
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Join date: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 77
01-12-2007 00:25
From: Constance Sunnyside
I find myself drawn in to this subject easily with much curosity. I have started completlely rearranging my RL to fit my SL schedule. I will go with six hours sleep just to have an hour or two here and there with a few special people. Time Zones are quite the enemy aren't they? I also find that my emotions run deep and that I have developed attachments for my SL companions that seem as strong a bond as some of my RL ones.
My own observation as a ,newbie but learning, is SL time and life moves at hyper speed. I went from newbie island to first home, second home, third home, and even refer to some of my friends as my old SL buddies that have been with me from the begining. All that in only being here 3 months. I am quite interested to meet someone who has been here for a year or more to gain perspective. These people would be more like wise sages being here that long.
I do sometimes feel guility for the time I spend on SL away from my RL partner. SL seems to fill certain voids that my RL partenr can't. I should look at it in a positive light. It is sort of like having your cake and eating it to I guess. I can make all my wishes and fantasys come true without damaging a perfectly good relationship.
So to conclude hope every one is out there enjoying their SL and making it what they want! See you in world!!!!

Yours in SL,
Constance


Constance, as long as you have a healthy balance of both your rl relationship and your sl life, then you are golden honey. But once you start neglecting your rl relationship for the ones you have in sl, then you need to do some serious re-examinations.

Your real life has to come first, including your real life partner. If this means arranging your playtime around their time they want to spend with you, so be it. Get in a good couple hours with the spouse each day. Go out and do something on the weekends, even if it's just a walk around the block. That time together is just as intimate and fulfilling as any time you spend with any sl partner. It's just a matter of reaching out to make it so.

Second Life is a wonderful way to enhance your life. It adds excitement and wonder and awe and all sorts of things. But it should never control your life, nor should it become your life. Once it does, it's no longer an enhancement, but rather an addiction. And yes, I have known many wive and husbands to leave their spouses because their spouses couldn't get off the computer game for a while.
Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
01-12-2007 01:05
Long ago.. in another world... far far away... I did fall in love deeply.... and it turned into a complete disaster, because I allowed to get it into Real Life. Luckily the relation I have with my partner was strong enough to survive.

Then we saw it happening with a close online friend. This tragedy went even far beyond the mistake I did make and this person had to leave the online community.

In my relation things turned quickly back to normal and maybe it has become stronger because of it.
As with Angel, there is now high, thick wall between RL and the virtual world. This wall is not to be crossed, in no way.
These days my partner wanders the world of SL as well... and although she said she never would, she has fallen is love.... And as long we listen to the rules we agreed on, all is good.

BTW Angel, over here in The Netherlands gay weddings are allowed too, but as long not all rights are not the same as for hetero marriage, they are not acceptable for me. Specially on the matter of taxes, heritage, children (we have an 18 year old living with us) there are still differences.... but that is another discusion.

Morwen.
bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,468
01-12-2007 01:25
Many, many more fine words and views here :) This must rank as one of the nicest threads ever!
Yes Constance, three months is a long time in SL. When I started then, in-world and here there seemed to be an almost pitched battle as to whether feelings should even be allowed in SL.
I have brought my RL intended to SL and more recently, a long-term RL friend from my younger days. Both live some distance (for UK!) so SL has increased our contact time.
Anyone who read my earlier post might be glad to hear my feared 'triangle' with an SL friend and my alt hasn't happened and I'm clearer on how to disallow it, thankyou Angel.
Someone mentioned how easy it is to start a friendship, filling in blanks with fantasy, the very fibre of the avatar filtering out negative points. This, I think is one of SL's greatest achievements.
From the opening line, you both have the opportunity to cut and run or develop and cultivate. Every subsequent sentence you still have the full power to re-evaluate that. Gone is the RL embarassment of constructing a plausible excuse for leaving or that vulerability of location. You're as likely to meet your long term partner looking at a mall display as in a dance hall for instance. How many of us in real life would let ourselves go with someone we bumped into in Walmart?
Last night my alt met someone whom I tried explaining the dangers of letting RL into SL. I'd phrased it all wrong on the spur of the moment. He knew where I was heading and said 'no, you mean you must let SL be part of your RL'
He'd got it in a nutshell. My alt will not lie. My alt will not cheat. My alt and Bilbo are both part of me.

added: Morwen, sorry to hear of your bad experiences. I'd like to clarify my personal trouble with RL and SL as it were.
Bilbo was a complete fantasy to begin with. Then my fiancee joined and was shocked to meet the SL Bilbo. For her sake I reverted close to true type. I subsequently created my alt not to cheat or deceive but to explore and experiment, surely another of SL's greatest achievements!
Due to locality in-world I hit the brief problem of both avatars meeting the same SL friend.
Now, an RL friend of some years has joined and so have met with Bilbo.
This then is why Bilbo has and does let the RL/SL border blur. Although my alt will not ... they are both still part of me.
Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
01-12-2007 02:33
Don't worry, Bilbo. As I said, I feel our relation has become stronger of it by surviving this bad time.

Bad times can be usefull if you learn from them... and use what you learn to prevent of it happening again. I (we) learned this lesson very well.

Morwen.
Mandy Carbenell
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Join date: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 847
01-16-2007 05:37
From: Angelique LaFollette
We are Intelligent, Feeling Animals, We are Social animals. Place us in Isolation, and we whither. Give us ANY social Outlet Including electronic ones like SL and we will project out minds, AND our hearts into it. We may need to Invent a New Vocabulary to do it, But if it's Necesary, it will happen.
Love Is Possible On Line, and i think it's Worth enjoying.

Angel.


Awesome Angel..I totally agree! I met someone on SL and we're just about ready to get married there. It happens, as simple as that. If anyone would've told me some months ago that I would engage in a marriage in a virtual world, I'd probably would've fallen from my chair and then laugh at them....loudly. But like I said..it just happened and I can honestly say that we really connect in a way that feels very special. Who he is? I don't know..but he's there for me in SL.

Just my two cents..
bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,468
01-16-2007 05:54
From: Mandy Carbenell
Awesome Angel..I totally agree! I met someone on SL and we're just about ready to get married there. It happens, as simple as that. If anyone would've told me some months ago that I would engage in a marriage in a virtual world, I'd probably would've fallen from my chair and then laugh at them....loudly. But like I said..it just happened and I can honestly say that we really connect in a way that feels very special. Who he is? I don't know..but he's there for me in SL.

Just my two cents..

If there's going to be a wedding ... there's going to be cake? <licks lips>
Mandy Carbenell
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Join date: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 847
01-16-2007 06:21
From: bilbo99 Emu
If there's going to be a wedding ... there's going to be cake? <licks lips>


I totally forgot!! LOL!
Heart Wishbringer
The One & Only "Heart"
Join date: 22 Nov 2004
Posts: 284
My Hearts Desire
05-06-2007 16:43
This is a nice post... and I couldn't pass up the opportunity to comment. When I joined SecondLife I did not join looking for love, of any kind. Nor did I join for attention. I joined SecondLife to follow my real life and online friends (from There.com) over to SL. I joined to spend time with my real life friends that now lived miles away, who I could not visit with in real life, and I joined with my online friends to "hang out".
When I joined SecondLife I had no idea what it was about, I only knew that I could be a virtual person, and have a virtual life. Virtual Love? I didn't consider it.
I made virtual friends, and one in particular stole my heart. I didn't mean to let my heart wander off in some virtual world, unprotected, vulnerable. I never even consired that it was in danger of falling in love... I especially didn't consider that it would be with a man half way around the globe in another country!
But what happened in SecondLife was magical. It wasn't the ordinary chit chat between two people flirting for the sake of it... I wasn't trying to seduce him, or see how quickly I could make him like me... I was quite busy learning how to decorate my newly rented apartment, and learning how to dress my avatar, and going to dance competitions to win money, so that I could spend it! I wasn't finding the lag too friendly.... I was on dialup. I was also on a 9 yr old PC. I didn't have a graphics card, or a sound card,... I was very much the SL handicap.
It took me ages to rez things, and half the time I was frustrated, but still optimistic of the fun that I could have. When I met Joe... which was at a dance in SL for "Best in Black and white" ( I think it was ) I only wanted to tell him I would be voting for him. At first, I hesitated on sending a private IM, because I had not privately IM'd anyone as of yet... I was still a noobie, less than 2 months old and he looked a lot more experienced, and I was timid... I thought he'd tell me to piss off.... a noob daring to IM him... I thought most of the "experienced" SL people were nice, but I still worried that this tall, stark white vampire in black leather and a wet white t-shirt would bite my head off... his red snake eyes and white mohawk, his black lips.... lured me, as I was intrigued by the artistic "look" he had.
Of course the rest is history.... we met in January 2005, married the last day in January 2005, spoke in voice chat, and web cams... and have gone on to build a business in SL where we work hard together to create things for the people in SL... it's now May 6th, 2007 and we plan to meet finally... this summer.... and bring our SL love to real life.
He's in Wales, UK.... I'm in California, USA.
We have a lot in common... except for our cultural differences... and except for the distance are very in love... in real life.
My heart goes out to anyone who finds love anywhere... but especially those of you who find love in Second Life....
That is strength and courage.... to love in a virutal world,... especially when distance seperates you both.
Our hearts love, whether we can see, hear or touch the one we love... just like our spirits live regardless of how our bodies live... and love is possible... even when you least expect it could be.

:)

Anyhow.... that's all...

Love <3
Heart
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BeBe Flamand
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Join date: 29 Nov 2006
Posts: 11
05-07-2007 02:15
When I first joined I never expected the emotional rollercoaster ride I'm on now! It is amazing how people have touched my life and how feelings cross into RL. I have met some amazing friends here, whom I can't imagine living without. People who are halfway accross the globe, people I never would have met if not for SL (one in particular is well on his way of stealing my heart, no matter how hard I try to fight it!).
To some people this might seem a fantasy world, to me this is very real! My avatar basically is an extension of my RL self. One just has to be a bit on the careful side not to get too carried away, because we are all human and not everyone is as sincere and honest as you might be. But then again that's life, we learn from our experiences, the good and the bad.

And Bilbo, Hamradio still is very much alive :D
Feline Falta
Hopeless Romantic
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 48
True can find its way on SL
05-07-2007 03:02
I experience that true love CAN find its way on SL. 5 weeks ago, I fell in love with this guy on SL. I was such a noob and he helped me out at first, just being a real gentleman. I was instantly attracted to him, to the calmness he radiated in his IMs.

He held it off at first, but then suddenly got an IM through the mail one day, saying that he couldn't get me out of his head and that he wanted to take it a step further.

We have been unseparable ever since, sending each other love letters by email on a daily basis. I know some people dissaprove of that, argumenting that it's foolish to confuse SL with RL, but as was stated by others (and also in another thread about this topic), we cannot forget that behind every AV, there's a true person, with desires and emotions. So, your AV inevitably contains the real you.

For many persons, that is.. Because what worries me sometimes, is that some persons DO use SL solely for role-playing. I wonder sometimes how far they would go with that. Would they really go this far as to "pretend" a relationship, take this really far, even if they know very well that the person on the other end takes this seriously (is really in love), and would end up getting really hurt? Something inside me finds that hard to believe, but that is probably only because I would not be capable of doing such a thing. I know the big evil world is not always that ideal.

I admit I had that little voice inside me warning for this when I met my boyfriend, and it will probably very silently remain there - just for soul protection - until we take this into RL. But at the same time, I feel a lot of faith. I really and truly feel that I'm trusting this person, putting my very soul into this relationship, which makes me so whole and happy.

I know it's a risk I'm taking, but which I am voluntarily willing to take. Because it is just this kind of risk which also allows you to live life to its fullest. You can't get the magic of life and love, if you keep protecting yourself against getting hurt, let's call it collateral damage.

Hell, I've been hurt so many time in RL too, with real persons lying and cheating on me, so where's the risk difference?

In the meantime, I'm living this romance, which has been the greatest ever. I love my SL boyfriend very much and in 4 months from now, we will meet each other in RL. It's like I have said once before, and it's been reiterated by another person. When you meet in SL, you are not hindered by social status, looks or other factors. All that comes forward in your IM-sessions is your true personality and nothing more, provided that you are both honest and open to each other. I know I am honest and open in this relationship and I truly trust my partner is doing the same. So, in this context, you see each other's personality come forward. And this way, it's really two souls connecting....

And that's the real magic of SL romance, or of any type of online relationship for that matter!!

I hope that everybody who's into mere role-playing on SL (which is fine too), is honest about that too, and does not trick any innocent souls into what they think is true romance and end up hurting them to the bone.

At the same time, I wish anyone of you willing to take this leap of faith into online romance - like I did - the best of luck and hope you will find the guy of your dreams, just like I did! :-)
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