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Landbot Steals Another 20000 Metres From Anshe Chung This Time

Johan Durant
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04-10-2007 14:42
From: Ricky Zamboni
Technically, it's conversion. If an obvious mistake has been made in pricing something, then by definition, no contract is formed and there is no sale.
Basically, the law says you're not allowed to take advantage of someone else's obvious mistake.

huh, I didn't know about this. Thanks for the link!
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Homer Antler
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04-10-2007 14:42
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
Just wanted to say that I saw this come up as well. It was 20128sqm for L$2000 in Ulyanovsk Oblast sim. I didn't catch who the original owner was though.


When did this come up? today?
Tiziana Catteneo
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04-10-2007 14:43
I think it's an exploit .... I suggest you to don't sell land using the in game system if lindens don't give an answer to that issue
Wilhelm Neumann
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04-10-2007 14:44
With the stuff I am reading these days I think I need to go take a walk and stop reading these things these days hehe because it gets me down :(

Meanwhile sometimes I can't believe the way people take advantage of others and can somehow well live in the same rooms with themselves. There is obviously a bug or a hack here I hope it gets repaired soon and I do wish that bots to speed up things or do things that you technically should not be able to do would be completely removed. If this was an mmorpg in the true sense bots that do all these things would be removed due to exploits. With the way second life is built its hard to define anything as an exploit so you just have to let peopel get ripped off or hurt in some way.

I just get tired of seeing it because it further enforces we live in the "dark ages of barbarism" in SL when in the rest of our lives we have moved passed it. Then I start to wonder why people want so much freedom when this is the result of having too much freedom. I live in a country where free speech is illegal as a result we have much fewer hate crimes and the like. People may want a ton of freedom but look at what happens when it exists

ah well such is life

time for a forum break cause this stuff gets me down too many threads either about some people who have gotten hurt or justfiying why people should be allowed to do things that in all honesty only lead to hurt in one way or another.


IN other words just how much freedom do you think we should have given that this is what the general player population does with it ..

it doesn't stop at land bots this is jsut one aspect
scams everywhere in one shape or form are probably more common then "regular folk" at least I find them everywhere I look

/shrug
RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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04-10-2007 15:35
From: Har Fairweather
Just occurred to me: I see no landbot scripts for sale in SL

Landbots are not scripts. They are external applications that access Second Life through the same protocols that your client viewer does.

From: Har Fairweather
Of course, I am presuming the owner(s) of the successful landbot(s) is or are not Lindens screwing over the residents.

To even suggest that landbots are being run by Linden Labs employees is absolutely ludicrous. Why the hell do people even make such ridiculous comments? If you think that is even *remotely* possible, I suggest you pack it all up now and leave for the "next best thing" TODAY.

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Sys Slade
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04-10-2007 15:54
From: Ricky Zamboni
Technically, it's conversion.


From that entry:
From: someone
In other words, intentional removal of another's chattel under the mistaken belief that it belongs to the actor does not relieve actor of liability under conversion.

From: someone
It does not matter if the defendant made a mistake.

It says nothing about the plaintiff making a mistake, and nothing about property that has been bought.
All it seems to suggest is that the defendent must have intent to interfere with the property of another without legal justification.
If the act of buying something at a price you set and advertise is conversion, then every product you ever bought is subject to price hikes whenever a manufacturer feels they may not have got as much of your money as they would like.
If I sold you a plot at 10K last week, I might decide it's actually worth 20K this week, especially if you flip the land and set it at that price. Does that mean I can sue you?

The example they give for intangible property is that of a certain domain name. That case was conversion because the defendent set out to take away the domain name with no legal right to do so. There was no sale involved.

There is also no mention of which countries laws the text is based on.

In the UK at least, a seller has a right to refuse a sale. Honoring the sale would constitute the entering of a contract to sell at that price. Just look at argos, who were legally forced to sell lots of TV sets at something like £5($10) a piece after a pricing glitch on their website.
The fact that an automated system is used to sell the land with no option to deny the sale wouldn't make any difference over here. Whether that holds true in California or Texas, I don't know, but it doesn't look like conversion as explained in the wikipedia entry.
Strife Onizuka
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04-10-2007 16:34
Locks for naming names & off-topic for forum

All this makes me wonder who is running the Blade Runner unit at LL.
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