No need for this

On behalf of the 99% of us who can live with it, I ask why?
Sorry, but whatever the owners rules are, it's their place. That doesn't offend me in the slightest.

Please could you drop me a landmark - I am looking for a present for a gay friend and this sounds like a useful place to try - thanks.

I am a firm believer that all thought and speech must be allowed to be expressed, no matter who it may offend. it is the only way. Person A is within his rights to call his property Gay Mall. Person B is within his rights to see that, be offended by it, and tell anyoune who will listen he is offended. Person A can ignore person B and Prson B can go somewhere else to shop. That it has to go beyond that is just sad. To Ketter, in his lengthy but eloquent post, I agree with you totally. Move back 40 years, substitute the work Black for Gay and you see how far we still need to go in society. And if you are one of "Those People" who were forced out of the service, I thank you. Our servicepeople generally don't get the respect they deserve in my opinion, and "You People" went into it willingly,knowing you would probably get even less. to me that shows Courage and Patriotism.

A little unapologetic flag waving no doubt. But I get that way around this time of year.

Who cares what a mall is called? For all I care it could be called OMGWTFBBQ Mall, if they sell the products I'm looking for..I'll go in.

Mandy C

Oh dear, I went to a woman's clothing shop last night. Right out there in public! I know, it ought have been on a private island so that the boys couldn't stumble across it and be offended.....

/me opens a shop called "OhMandyOhYouCameAndYouGaveWithoutTaking". And awaits your arrival.

Oh I'll arrive allright...ON YOUR DOORSTEP!!

Mandy C

Hit me up in world. I'd be happy to have you over.

Oh, I know....two NYC chickies allways get along.

Mandy C

Thanks, Ketter, for your post in this thread. That was powerful and well said.



Soooo.... are you saying zoning should be based upon the owner's or targeted-customer's sexual orientation?

"On behalf of the 99% of us who can live with it, I ask why?
Sorry, but whatever the owners rules are, it's their place. That doesn't offend me in the slightest."

They can do what they want... I'm tolerant.

Quote:
"Originally Posted by Avalon Barzane
I have always wondered about SL zoning. One would see a pretty house or two and then a sprawling casino with giant airborne ads right next door. In RL arn't cities designed to have commercial and residential areas? Why not have the gay mall but place it on an island so people can't stumble over it and be offended. Folks that wanted to go to this mall would have to search for it and teleport to it. To some people that would be discrimination by forcing this type of action but I think there has to be some sort of a happy medium. -AB"



"Soooo.... are you saying zoning should be based upon the owner's or targeted-customer's sexual orientation?"

Nope... they can do what they want. I am tolerant... Moving on... Question: do you like the way SL is laid out? Casinos, sex shops, clubs, houses, high rises, floating ads all together in a big sprawl?

Thats right, I am going to rename Le Cadre to "Straight Island - but all are welcome"

Relocating all of San Francisco's gay establishments onto Alcatraz island isn't being tolerant; it is denying a reality you would rather not deal with - a reality you would rather not *tolerate*.

There is alot of "gay only" places in SL but I believe it is their right and who are we to say it is or isn't right?

One of my best friends is gay, and he would actually find this very offensive lol

"Originally Posted by Avalon Barzane
Nope... they can do what they want. I am tolerant... "

"Relocating all of San Francisco's gay establishments onto Alcatraz island isn't being tolerant; it is denying a reality you would rather not deal with - a reality you would rather not *tolerate*."


I didn't mean aything like that. Educate me: in RL how would a mall that says "Gay Mall" be built and where? next to the Chuckie Cheese? What will this mall sell? Sexually explicit items? baked goods? Will the outside of the building show sexually explicit themes? Will it be a tastfully built structure? In SL something like this fine almost anywhere. But, not everyone will like it and if its built next to a bunch of folks that don't want it in their neighborhood then what? Do you care that others may have differing opinions? How do you appease different groups?

-AB

To the OP; it looks to me like your mistake is that you think that "homo" stands for "homogenous" as in, all exactly the same.

It doesn't.

The only thing that all Gay people have in common is that they fall in love with people who happen to be their own gender. More or less.

Everything else about Gay people differs considerably, just as it does among, say, left handed people, or people with red hair, or any other group of people who share a common physical trait, but not a common culture or belief system.

So, of course, there are some Gay people who don't think that it's anyone else's business what their orientation is, and some who think that visibility is an important part of fighting for equality. (Which, of course, we do not yet have, in most of the world.) And lots who fall somewhere in the middle, and tell some people about their orientation, but not everyone.

"Those people," as you use the term, don't exist.

Also, of course, there is a huge difference between members of a minority group calling out to each other, and being singled out by others.

What is different about the merchandise at a "Gay Mall?" I have no idea, since, to the best of my knowledge, I haven't been there. But I would assume it's things like Pride t-shirts, jewelry, posters and flags. Things that people who do believe in visibility use to be visible.

By the way, a plethora of studies have found that knowing someone who is gay promotes tolerance, just as knowing someone who is a member of any other minority does.

It's hard to hold firmly to a stereotype when you know people who are members of the group, but nothing like the stereotype at all.

Personally, I approve of that. I approve of anything that can break the mind-set of "us" and "them." Because, when you get right down to it, there isn't any "them."

There's no one here but us.

There's just a lot of us and we are quite different from each other.

We're not homogenous a bit.

So long as it's not "broadly offensive" then that's ok - lol!

>=O Broadly offensive!!!!!



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Takes all types to make the world go 'round. People will be what people will be.

Me too. The thread was dead for a week until you did. Whoops, now I bumped it again. D'oh!

Maybe the owners' name is "Gay" and they named it after themselves. Wouldn't that be funny if that were the case and all these posts were for nought?

ROTFLOL Pierce. This rounds off the thread beautifully - no one else should post now.


Ooops

Don't confuse etymology and meaning. They're often related, but not always, and they're certainly not the same.

There's a huge amount of history around that, mostly remembered by those of us who were activists in the gay and lesbian movements back in the seventies and early eighties.

Suffice it to say that many lesbians have a strong preference for being described as lesbians and not gay, while many others prefer gay or don't care. It's not a huge point, but one should respect the right for people to choose their own labels, even if it seems redundant to others.