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Phil Deakins
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01-22-2009 05:29
This is for Millie Thompson - who locked the 2 blacklist threads.

Millie. There are ways to moderate a forum well and ways to moderate a forum badly. You moderated the 2 blacklist threads badly. You locked the first one without giving any reason as to why - *very* bad moderating. If listing region names was the reason, you didn't remove the list - *very* bad moderating. You locked the second one without giving any reason why, other than "guidelines folks!" and "If you have issues with bots PLEASE take it up with Second Life Support personnel via the Support Portal. Let them know about it instead of taking up a personal vendetta.", which says nothing about why you locked the thread as there are many anti-bots threads here that are never locked. Also, like the first thread, the whole of the second thread remains intact.

I don't know if you have the ability to edit posts and remove the list of regions or not, but if you aren't able to do that, then you are not a moderator here. If you *are* able to do that, then you are a crap moderator here. Either way, you are allbut useless here.
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01-22-2009 05:30
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01-22-2009 05:33
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
Ibtl


Ibtl ??

Innumerable bots trashing logins?
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01-22-2009 05:34
AWWW damn, IBTL
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01-22-2009 05:34
From: Sling Trebuchet
Ibtl ??

Innumerable bots trashing logins?


"in before the lock". Meaning, the OP is about to get a friendly reference to the rules of the forum. :)
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Phil Deakins
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01-22-2009 05:35
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
Ibtl
Why would it be locked? For criticising the moderator? Is that against the guidelines? I don't think so.
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01-22-2009 05:39
From: Phil Deakins
Why would it be locked? For criticising the moderator? Is that against the guidelines? I don't think so.


Calling a moderator a crap moderator is not very clever to do.... even when you think so.
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01-22-2009 05:39
From: Phil Deakins
Why would it be locked? For criticising the moderator? Is that against the guidelines? I don't think so.


Actually it is, under the same classification as discussing things like bans in world.

As well as violating the no names policy (which both threads violated)
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01-22-2009 05:42
Jeez, lighten up Francis it was just a joke!

Back on topic though. The black list threads were very amusing but it's very typical and expected for SL to block these stupid joke threads.

I will say this though, it might just be coincidence but I think when there are lots of comments about locking then the mods are way more likely to lock. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
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01-22-2009 05:43
I miss Linda... I hope she didn't get banned. :(
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01-22-2009 05:43
I just wanted to post in this fine thread.

ibtl
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01-22-2009 05:48
From: Phil Deakins
Why would it be locked? For criticising the moderator? Is that against the guidelines? I don't think so.


Hate speech!

Plus you didn't say " In my opinion". You presented it as fact.
I seem to recall that you yourself regard this as being very inflammatory when you percieve it to applied in your direction ;)

Perhaps if you were to gently guide the moderator through the finer point of moderation, as you understand them?



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01-22-2009 05:50
From: Sling Trebuchet
Ibtl ??

Innumerable bots trashing logins?


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01-22-2009 05:51
lol....the region thread should be REMOVED. It's very clearly incorrect.
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01-22-2009 05:57
Phil Deakins
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01-22-2009 05:57
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Calling a moderator a crap moderator is not very clever to do.... even when you think so.
It's neither clever nor stupid. It's just a statement of an opinion, based on the moderator's actions.

There was no flaming in the thread (not that threads are locked for that), so that wasn't the reason. There were no avs named, so that wasn't the reason. There was no anti-bot vendetta in it that isn't common in this forum. There was no heated argument or anything along those lines. There were a few regions named, and they are still there in both threads. So why were they locked? If it was the region names, why are they still there?

Millie is a crap moderator because she didn't state why the threads were locked. I can't criticise her if she doesn't have the ability to edit or remove posts (to get rid of the region names, for instance) because, if that's the case, then she isn't a moderator - or she is a very weak one.
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01-22-2009 05:59
Phil, let's be honest... We gave 255 reasons for the first and 57 reasons for the second thread to be closed - and it was quite gently not to tell the OP the reason. Other mods might have taken the opportunity to talk about intelligence!
Eli Schlegal
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01-22-2009 06:03
From: Torben Trautman
Phil, let's be honest... We gave 255 reasons for the first and 57 reasons for the second thread to be closed - and it was quite gently not to tell the OP the reason. Other mods might have taken the opportunity to talk about intelligence!


Huh?
Sling Trebuchet
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01-22-2009 06:07
I think that the Blacklist thread was closed because of Phil's final post

From: Phil Deakins

NOOOOOOoooooooooo. It's all female avs that don't try to seduce me that should be banned.


Advocating large-scale and comprehensive banning of other residents by sex is NOT to be encouraged.


eh..... In my opinion
Phil Deakins
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01-22-2009 06:34
From: Sling Trebuchet
I think that the Blacklist thread was closed because of Phil's final post



Advocating large-scale and comprehensive banning of other residents by sex is NOT to be encouraged.


eh..... In my opinion
Hmmm.... you may be right about that :rolleyes: But it still doesn't excuse the crap moderating - not stating the reason.
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Phil Deakins
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01-22-2009 06:37
From: Torben Trautman
Phil, let's be honest... We gave 255 reasons for the first and 57 reasons for the second thread to be closed - and it was quite gently not to tell the OP the reason. Other mods might have taken the opportunity to talk about intelligence!
If you mean the region names, we gave very few actual region names. And being gentle, by not stating the reason for a moderator action, is totally crap moderating, because nobody would know what not to do in future.
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01-22-2009 06:40
personally I think it was the picture of Phil. Everytime he shows up in my panties a thread gets locked :(
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01-22-2009 06:42
One person *did* get very pissy about one particular region that was named, though...
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Eli Schlegal
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01-22-2009 06:52
The simple fact that everyone is guessing at why the thread was locked tells you that the morderator probably should have explained why they were locking it.
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01-22-2009 06:56
Moderator action should always be explained. That's just common sense and courtesy. To do less makes you no better than those you moderate.
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