So Is "Age Verified" the new Scarlet Letter of SL ?

Wondering how proud a resident will be of the new addition to his/her profile proclaiming him/her as a sinner? A pronounement to the world that "Hey! I am into porno, smut, perversion, gambling and extreme violence!"

For sure, except for entry into adult parcels, it's not anyone's business what a resident's recreational choices are in SL.

Maybe LL could rethink this so that the fact that one is age verified would not have to be published in profiles but would still effectively ban those not age verified from adult parcels.

Who knows? Maybe there will then be places that will ban residents who ARE age verified to keep the "morally challeged" out

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can I just be for the first 3?

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I DJ, I'll really have no choice but to verify if I want to continue making money. Plus my store is in a mature sim.

I hadn't thought of it this way.

I was thinking of it more as it will be the ONLY thing telling others we are known and verified at all. Thus business owners would feel they have to have it, in order to be seen as responsible people.

Hadn't occured to me it might be seen as someone who is into x-rated activity.

coco

Ultimately I don't care if people know what I am into or not. (though I find the lack of clown sex toys disturbing ). All the age verified means to me is I am talking to a grown up. Which I prefer.

There are many, many people who will not get verified but are so far past the age of majority it is unreal.

So even using it to call those not verified kids is a bad way to go. For that matter kids can steal ID and get verified. So it doesn't even work in reverse

That or "hey, I'm not some punk teenager using their parents computer and trashing people who got verified!"

I figure people will be branding me for not using voice, so whats a few more stones...

I don't know..there have been times when 4 and 5 could have applied

Not even close to a "Scarlet Letter" More like an "I'm a responsible adult, and I don't want children in my bedroom, thanks!"

I'll age verify and lock my home parcel, because I have a bed with sex animations in it. Hardly ever use it. But if I can lock anyone who refuses to age verify off my parcel, I'll not have to worry about finding some kid doing the nasty in my bedroom when I log on!

Unfortunately due to convenant I can't put up red lines around my land. I'll have to come up with more creative measures.

Maybe you can hire Gestapo TV to stand outside your home filming anyone who comes near.

Ummm. You might be better off with a security orb or you might have to worry about finding some adults doing the nasty in your bedroom when you log on.


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This isn't a statement of my opinion, it's just that with the tone of threads around here this is what I read at first glance.

Actually, I live with several people and have my workshop at my home so I am there pretty much all the time. So usually you're asked to state your business. If the response is found to be lacking you're given 10 seconds. After that, it's duck season.

btw, instead of my SSN can I just provide a copy of my criminal record? That shows I am over 18.

Sorry, that won't do it. Under the Juvenile Crime Control Act of 1997 there are several instances where a juvenile must be prosecuted as an adult. For example, if the juvenile is alleged to have committed an act after the juvenile attains the age of 14 years which if committed by an adult would be a serious violent felony or a serious drug offense.

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For myself, I doubt I will become age-verified, unless it can be done without the extra info LL is requiring.

That being said, my current "Payment Info Used" will become "Unverified". Sad indeed. I'm going to be taking a snapshot of my profile and use that as my new profile pick, so someone looking can at least see that I had some kind of verification status at one point (actually I have already taken the snapshot to preserve my "ratings",

I wonder if LL will accept an in-person visit as acceptable for age-verification. I could plan a trip to San Francisco and see some sights at the same time, lol.

p.s. My annual premium payment is due in July. I wonder where this mess will be come July.

Well gee, thanks for assuming I'm a pervert because I don't want to hand over my social security number to a data mining company.

I wonder how age verification will affect those griefers who are adults in chronological age only? Unfortunately i think a great many of those Cerebral Pygmies are indeed adults despite their infantile behavior. Age and maturity do NOT necessarily follow the same scale.

Linden Labs is trying to add a feature that players have been DEMANDING for a very long time. Almost every controversial subject that comes up on the forums is generously peppered with such demands. Well, Here it is, AGE VERIFICATION. SL is an Adult environment where Adults get together and do things Adults do. Sometimes that's just dining, Dancing, and socializing. Sometimes it's Eating out, the Horizontal Mambo, and Group Scenes. ~ Being Adults is having the Freedom of choice to decide For Ourselves what we want to do for recreation. At some stage of the game it's more than desirable that we ascertain that everyone taking part in this adult environment Is indeed an adult, and once that is done, we can get on with our chosen amusements. What Age Verification does is effectively remove one of the chief soap boxes from the SL reformers use, The "think of the children" Platform. If we can all prove we are not kids, then that kicks the legs out from under the that argument, and they have to think of some Other reason why adults cannot be doing things adults like to do.
Maybe that is why Age verification now doesn't look so good to some people.

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I think a lot aren't opposed to the Age Verification idea per se, just this particular plan that was announced, evidentlly before all concerned parties had even agreed on it. And questions on the security of any sensitive information.

I'm not against age verification as such, but rather the announced plan for non-US residents to hand over passport details. My opposition is based on a few points:

- passport data cannot be verified in most cases because of privacy laws in other jurisdictions so its pointless to ask for it because you can't test it

- even when it can be verified passport data is less reliable to prove age than CC information because minors can get passports more easily than CCs, holding a passport proves nothing about your age

- loss of passport data makes you much more vulnerable to identity theft than loss of a CC

- the particular company chosen to do the verification has had security lapses in the past and just happens also to be in the business of compiling and selling lists of personal data (hows that for a coincidence).

Although, Rachel, the Lindens have specifically said that the information will not be sold or shared. They have not assured us it won't be stored, but they have stated that neither they nor their external partner will share or sell it.

I am not completely comfortable with the process, but I am confident it's not a scam to collect our information for nefarious purposes.

Just a couple of snips from your post, Angel.

Speaking only for myself, it's not the WHAT that Linden Lab is implementing, but the HOW it's being implimented. Provide to me a signed and notarized document from Linden Lab, Aristotle & Integrity assuring me that all my data will be kept safe and confidential and will not, under ANY circumstances, be sold to a PAC, political entity, or shown lumped into any other demographic that Aristotle may create, and I will consider verifying. Even better - assure me in a legal, binding document that immediately upon verification of my age to Linden Lab that Integrity/Aristotle will wipe the information that I submitted without maintaining ANY backup. Without either of those assurances, I will not "age verify" my account. I'm 46 years old, and it's been longer than many of the posters here have been alive since I've had to prove my age to anyone. I'm certainly not going to start with a game company that chooses to use a company with a known business of keeping "lists" and selling them. I gave LL my name, address, email, CC & DOB one time already - that's all I feel is necessary.

To reiterate - it's not what is being done, but how it's being done. Linden Lab wants assurances from me that I'm who I say I am. I want the same assurances from them that their third party will not maintain and sell my information. That's all.