Goodbye World -I want to get off???

Just for the record, one more time, It is NOT illegal for a business in the US to ask for your Social Security Number. You don't have to give it, but they can deny you their service if you don't. It's true that here, most of us have given the same information out for everything from opening bank accounts, buying homes and cars, and using utilities etc. I'm not sqeamish about it when necessary, I just don't know if it is necessary for something as trivial as a game membership. Also i'm concerned about the safety of this information as well, but mainly from In World. While only rumors, some of the conversations on this information being visible to other residents is unsettling.Will I verify. Not at first. I will see how it impacts my use of Second Life. If it impairs my enjoyment, I will reevalute the situation. I do think, once again, the Providers have juped headfirst into something only half dressed. They do need to find a plan for non US users, or if they have it communicate exactly what it is . Also I'd like to thank them for once again, allowing the Residents to shoulder the burden of cleaning up a mess that they pretty much created themselves.

mmm, this is a misunderstanding. LL is considering a way to allow residents to show verified age information in their profile. So you could read my profile and see not only that I am age-verified, but I could allow you to see what age range I fall into.

That would be OPTIONAL information, that each resident would allow to be displayed, if the so desire..

Max

Link to this info, please?

information that might not be required by the tos, but may be 'required' within a social context. i cannot decide whether ll are trying to make sl a datamining/marketing device for corporations, or trying to build a dating service.

ll discuss this in the first age verification blog

dont remember the link either but I did read it also

It will be age Approxiamate like 20+, 30+ , etc

and Country

and City

Ill try to find it.


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It doesnt look like its in the blogs - it must be in one fo the transcripts. Someone should make a thread where they provide links to all these scattered transcripts somwhere.

I think Linden has plans on the former, while some residents have plans on the latter. In my opinion. I will decide what information another resident will know. No one else. Another option I will not be using.

Gotcha... thanks.

when EHARMONY buys an Island -

its time to go to the next virtual world.

It is in the transcripts. I'll try and find a copy.

It began with Eric Reuters asking about gender verification.



Is this what you were referring to?

There's an island I wouldn't mind seeing perpetually griefed to the absolute maximum of unusability until it was shut down. That company needs to die, period.

All of which are done in person, in my country, with my country's data protection rules and not by a third party.

I have to admit that I've done everyone of these things online. I bought my car totally on line, just walked in ,signed the papers an drove off, found my house and applied for my mortgage online, I always file my taxes online, my last bank account was opened online. So it is a different climate here in the States. For thoe in outher countries, I don't blame you for bristling at requirements that go against your laws and tolerances. LL should make acommodations for you as well if they value your business. But for all of us, if we don't like the terms we have choices.

I don't know what's the deal with the verification, if anyone thinks they are not already identified and numbered in this world are the naive ones.

For instance we'll have a "unique" card here in my country in a near future, it will compile Identity card/IRS card/Social-security card in ONE single card and that's against constitutional rights, right? No sir, they do as they please. Do I quit my country? Nop. Then again I got nothing to hide. I guess that's the way it goes in civilized places, that's just the way it goes. False freedom because real freedom is a pain in the ass for any kind of system.

i guess australia is not civilised then.
or perhaps we just have something to hide.

Thinking about it, I've bought a car online too. I didn't have to provide my passport number. I found a house online, I didn't have to provide my passport number online for that, I did have to take my documents to an estate agent.

Oh I have no doubt that Linden Lab will not store any personal information.

Republican data-mining third-party Integrity? (God what a name.) That's another story entirely.

I'm sick of people who bash those of us who refuse to bow down once more and have our privacy invaded by a corporation. I am sorry, but I'm not giving my social security number or driver's license, even portions of them, to a company known for their Republican political ties and extensive data-mining and selling operations.

Right and name me an instance where you have been required to provide those details to participate online? I mean they are government documents sure, you need them for employment, you need them for banking but any instance you've had to provide that sort of level of information to a foreign institution to participate online... name me one.

May 7 Blog entry:

http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/07/more-on-identity-verification/

Daniel Linden wrote:

Linden Lab will not store any specific, identifying information. We’ll keep less exact information as a way to allow Residents, if they should so choose, to share verified aspects of their identity with others in Second Life — ie, not an exact date of birth, but an age (over 30) and not a specific address, but a city and country. Such sharing will, of course, be completely voluntary. Our verification provider will assess the consistency of the provided information and return a match code; at that point, a Resident becomes verified. The entire process takes less than two minutes, and will be available internationally. Our verification provider will only use information to provide a match code.

QFT.

Not a chance in hell im going for this.

So, basically, we need:

a) Linden Labs to actually say what, exactly, will this verification entail
b) Linden Labs to tell us that they have an agreement with Integrity or whoever.
c) Linden Labs to tell us whether or not Integrity will keep the information on file or just use it to verify, then delete
d) alternatively, Linden Labs to tell us that the agreement with Integrity includes a "No Usage" clause in the agreement, assuring us that the information will only be used for verification purposes and will not be sold.
e) Linden Labs to explain their exact definition of "Adult", "Explicit" etc., to let us know whether Skin Makers, makers of private parts, poses, animations etc. etc. will have to go Adult. In addition, what will be the difference between Adult and Mature? Will we be allowed to be nude in Mature areas, or is that explicit?
f) actually, we just need more info from them, no?

Personally, I'm just gonna wait until we have this information before I even contemplate "getting off the world".

I can't speak for anything regarding passports, as I don't have one.Like I said, LL should have an acceptable way to reasonablt accomodate all residents, regardless of where they live.

Would you do it if they had ties to the Democratic Party?.....