See ya around

Ok, I am outa here!! I gave away anything of value to the few real friends I had made here.

Z, thanks for the fun times,, you were a real friend. going to miss you!! Keep in touch.
Pecos Kidd, hang in Texas boy!! hopefully it will get better.
Kina, Aww, GF,, enjoy your space ship, you are a real looker and a good friend, will miss you. keep in touch.
Woody Munro, thanks for all the help,, I do appreciate it,
Paull Daniels, Egypt , Man, I hope you get your island set up,, send me pictures when you go, you got my email.

The reason I am leaving is, very unstable platform, not once did I ever get to spend enough time in any location with out it crashing, or shutting down for reload.. NOT ME<, the sim!!

hopefully someday they will get it straighted out.

And to all the AHs that come along and ruin it for everyone,, Grow UP!! jerk kids! There is going to have to be some easy way to report that,, the few can ruin it for all.. Typical of the world of online now I guess, be a jerk and see how many people you can Piss off!! I hope you all get a virus and your hard drive dies! I don't know mow many people we just had to transport away from.. and no way to ban them or ignore them.

I hope new comers here get to read this,, it is a warning that all is not what it seems here,, DO NOT buy land!! Realtors here are the biggest thieves around... Worst than real life. DO NOT pay Linden money, keep the free version and be carefull who you deal with.. Do your research.. BE CAREFUL!!
To the rest of you.. IF you know me, you know how to get in touch,,

Cheers...

It's true, crowded places crash quite often and you'll probably meet some griefers there. When I joined, I bought L$, went on a shopping spree, bought land (allowed me to ban griefers), started to build... was fun still is.

Not all realtors are bad. Just me.

Amazing.

Almost 2 years in SL and the sims seldom crash for me. Oh they do, but then are back up within a few and the crashes themselves are fairly rare on a sim-for-sim baises.

Greifers? They're a joke. Yeah, the can orbit the unwary, or become an annoyance, but they have the brians of a retarded doorknob. In a battle of wits, they come unarmed. Just rez a box, sit on it, and rip their ego down to little itty-bitty shreds. They tend to leave soon after, never to return due to the cowards they are *Smirks*

Land thieves? Yup. They're there jsut like in RL. Here's a Tip to all those newbies that may read this: Don't pay the overpriced ones LOL.

Sorry you got disenchanted Oldman, but it's not all the doom and gloom you make it. Best of luck in any Life you choose.

~Jessy

cool, one less avi inworld to slow down my experience...jk i'm sure you'll be missed...

but seriously...telling people to never subscribe, buy land and all that..well...eh...forget it.

here's my warning: don't believe everything you read. SL, even with all its foibles, is a wonderful and fantastic place for many of us.

LOL!

How do I get the sims to crash on me so I get frustrated and leave? How do I get a land baron to rob me of my land? How do I get LL to stop taking the money I offer them? I'm serious. See, I have this addiction..........

A

First off, sad to see a resident go, hope you make it back someday.

Secondly, I see alot of residents complain about crashing issues. Now, I'm not saying the client is perfect by any stretch... hardly. Yes, it's buggy, yes, they're updating all the time, sometimes causing more problems than they've fixed. However, and I'm not pointing the finger at anyone specific, so hold off on the replies hammering me with your system stats, but I think sometimes, the issues are related to the PC running the client.

Some systems are beefier than others, and, before you hammer LL about issues, consider your system. When I first started SL, I had a 64 meg graphics card that was 5 years old. Needless to say, it was a slide show, and I had crashing issues. I upgraded my video card (spent $100), and that cured the problem there, beyond that, without going into details, the rest of my system is more than up to par. I think consideration of your system is something to think about, and if you're machine is older, it's older, and, as time goes by, systems get dated. Now, with that said, the SL client software is quite demanding on a computer, and one should consider the posibility that their system (may) be outdated, and could be part of the problem.. please note... "could be".

Thirdly, money. $600 in a month! Whew! When I started almost a year ago, I didnt spend a dime in-world for the first two months. I camped for L's, the only thing I needed them for was texture uploads... sure, I wanted to buy nice looking clothes, gadgets, etc, but I held off while I learned building, scripting, and making clothes. When I went premium, I paid up a full year to get the best deal, bought some (now defunct) first land, added 3 other first land parcels, and started doing real estate. Overall, I've purchased L's exactly 4 times at $20 usd each time. "Startup cash" to prime the pump. Since then, I've never looked back. Doing real estate, clothing, building and scripting, I've more than made back my investment of $80 and the $72 premium fee, even the $100 on the video card. Also, my business covers my tier fees every month. Anshe Chung has nothing to worry about from me passing her up moneywise, but I do a little better than break even, and overall, I'm a couple of hundred bucks up. One of the neatest features about SL is that you can, with a bit of effort, pay for all your in-world activities.

Finally, I get frustrated at times too, just like everyone else, when there's a glitch to deal with, but, overall, I'm willing to deal with it, work through it, and move on. I get tired of reading post after post after post of people whining about issues. SL is a work in progress, and if you're not willing to deal with the bumps in the road.. leave, like this guy did. Enough already with the daily LL bash. You're beating a dead horse, enough already.

Goodbye.

Door. Arse. Way out. Avoid collision. Etc.

Sorry to see you go

Not all land owners are thieves. It seems I can recall a non-newb resident selling a rental sim because 'he could'.

Anyone can be a thief, sadly.

You 'were' only 21 days old.

Yeah I was thinking this too ... Woodget even with the current slowdown on names ain't gonna be someone who has contributed the the community for several years and walked away quietly, disenchanted.

Sheesh.

Hello everyone else! *~*waves*~* unless you are an AH of course. Or an asshat.

Dont be to quick. For every person that posts a goodbye on the forums how many others are silently quitting for the same reasons. No wonder the retention levels are pathetic.

You have to factor in that the longer you stick with SL, the more forgiving you become. A little wobble to us is enough to get new users looking for the uninstall.

And how many return? I walked out of Second Life for four months once, but for some reason it never occurred to me to post a dramatic goodbye, nor to thank people who don't even use the forums in a fashion more befitting an Oscar ceremony. I didn't assume my solitary opinion would have any sway over on an online environment with a _concurrent_ population larger than many large towns, any more than it would if I shouted nasty things about a large town while boarding a train to leave said large town.

No, the way to express your view about the platform when leaving it "for good" is to fill in a form that's provided when you cancel your account...but interestingly, few dramatic departees ever reach that stage, probably because they know they'll be back.

And the "Cheesy Goodbye" award goes to.....

LOL. ...and we've had *so* many cheesy exits this week.

During one of the casino protests at Borrowdale, this guy was using his shout button to say things like "Second Life is finished now because of Lindens!", "that's it, i'm selling all my land and going," and "when I log out, i'm never coming back!"

Not a single string instrument in sight but the sound of violins was everywhere.

It is always sad to someone go... even when I cannot agree with the way this person says goodbye. Complaining about griefers and being rude yourself??? Don't know... maybe it is just me...

But.. many problems concerning crashing are often related to the computer/connection someone uses and not all the time SL.

I noticed this myself when I bought this new computer. I almost never crash, I can be for hours in game without any problem. With my old computer I had more problems, but not so much that it would make SL a bad experience.

Morwen.

bye kid

bet he's still here in alt account LOL

SL for the 1st time in ohh...erm 3 years is REALLY shit for me.
I'm loosing money...big money..50K last night- 40K the night b4 as they shut the sim down w/o any warning... sales have dropped big time too presumably because ppl give up
I cant upload txtrs....customers couldnt make purchases this morning... I couldnt move in my store or sim...I reset the sim and its fine now but anyway..

LL is on its ass. Their priorities 'appear' to be ass about face but the expression walk a mile in my shoes springs to mind.

None of us knows whats going on behind the walls of LL. What pressures their under- dead lines etc.

I hate the fact they can make announcments on their BLOG but turn off public replies

As PAYING CUSTOMERS we SHOULD have a place to air our views and by sticking their fingers in their ears only leads people to get more frustrated and will vent anywhere and everywhere.

They SHOULD invest some money into a customer support telephone line were if the same issue crops up enough times its looked into and open to public vote to what solutions are best that LL can provide.

AHs jerks theifs are part & parcel of RL and can log in just like the saints and do gooders can. Thats not LLs fault, however when an AB is made it SHOULD be looked into not given 4 days and an auto reply saying the matter has been resolved just to shut you up because Ive gone back to the places I reported for using camping Bots and they still use em.

They SHOULD ( and this is personal ) provide proper protection to texture artists as they are probably one of the content creators that have a massive impact on SL's look and development and yet we are forced to sell full perms because LL wont get their asses into gear and add a simple Transfer When Rendered on the permissions.
This will cut out 95% of ppl reselling or giving their txtrs to friends who then pass them on to their freinds and eventually they end up in business in box stores sold by complete noobs to SL who wouldnt know copyright if it smacked them in the face and assume LL permisssion overules RL laws!

But I give up. Theres nothing I can do about it and they know it.

The problem lies in the fact that LL do not have any direct competition. There is no 'SL replica' out there thats acting as a threat and as such their feeling cozy and confident that " where else can they go and create and sell stuff for real money?"

And their correct. There isnt any other Virtual world out there.....YET!
Personally I feel theres a gap in the market for another SL type world and if & when that day comes you will see MANY players and creators jumping ship ... then and ONLY then will LL actually give a shit to listen to its customers.

They can afford to loose one or 2 ppl to the thousands per week that sign up....of another world came along that promised the same but better/cheaper...LL would have a totally different attitude to its customers.

And this is why SLs economy would crash. If you do nothing but take L$ and refuse to plough it back eventually the economy crashes.
I make L$ and I Pay a LOT of that right back into staffing advertising etc.

Im not aiming this directly at you but I do hear ppl bragging how they havent spent a rl dime in SL etc..and yet sit on camping chairs not giving a thought as to how the L$ their being paid comes about

If ppl just made money and cashed out and nvr spent it..the value of the l$ would be worthless..there has to be a demand for L$ ...simple supply demand mathematics.

Ahh... supply demand mathematics! Then you surely also realize that there can not be in balanced in money for in Second Life.

Persons as me (as example) make it impossible.... I wave my credit card and there comes a new load of currency straight in to SL. In RL something like that would make a market explode... and inflation would go sky high.

Morwen.

hmmmm, 2 months today. Rarely a crash; even rarer for any sim I'm on to crash, haven't been griefed but twice since I left the sand boxs; once by a shop owner. And I have no intention of buying land because of the prim limit. My biggest complaint is the rip off artists selling freebies; as in they got them free and are now selling them.
All I can say is, when was the last time you updated your video card drivers? Makes a BIG difference; this should be done every 90 days. And by.

And this is why handouts suck. Paying someone to keep on being a dead weight kills teh economy, RL or SL.

Fortunatly, Campers are not really that big a deal in this. They are providing a service for the pay. That is, they are providing Traffic to the place that is paying them. So a camper saying they never spent a RL dime in SL is full of it. Not only did they invest the time (even if not at the PC), but also the cost of electricity to run the PC. When you add up what they put in (even though LL doesn't see a cent of it) they're actually putting in more than they're getting.

Beggers, on the other hand.....

~Jessy

I suspect a lot of campers are in a situation where the cost of running the PC doesn't matter. Ie. They really do live in their parents' basement. If they have a second computer, it's easy enough to go on playing SL while the other computer is dedicated to camping. They aren't paying the electricity bill so what the heck. I bet a lot of them are under-18 too.

It doesn't make sense to me why any adult (particularly one who can afford a computer and broadband connection) would be unable to afford a couple of dollars worth of Lindens from time to time. If there are people out there who can't afford to buy one cup of coffee or pint of beer once a week (because you'd have to be *that* poor to consider $2 USD worth of Lindens expensive), then they have serious life problems that need addressing, and they're unlikely to find the answers by logging into SL 24/7.

Course look at it from the other side-

If people are going to hand out free money - why not take it?

I think that explains why theres so many campers.

If people stopped handing out free money - problem solved.