Trespassers?

Hi,

I bought a small plot of land (1024) and I *thought* I had it secured. My house is a skybox above the height that one can fly without assistance, the doors are locked and the land is set only to allow specific named friends. Despite all this I was there today when a complete stranger appeared in my home. This was rather disconcerting. I tried to add him to the ban list, but he told me that I couldn't ban him. Can anyone tell me how he got in in the first place, how he was able to avoid a ban, and how I can prevent such things happening in the future?

Many thanks.

I don't know about people being 'unbannable' but I do know that your limited access only covers the first 50 meters or so above ground level. By restricting access to the handful of friends, you only limit strangers from going onto or over your land down at ground level and up 50 or 100 meters (I forget how high the lines go.)

Over that height there is no restriction - this is to allow people to fly over banlines. By placing your skybox far up above that, you've effectively placed your skybox outside the 'protected' area, and anyone will be able to come and go.

If you don't have anything down at ground level, you'll make your neighbors a lot happier if you remove the access restrictions. Few things make less sense than an empty lot with banlines.

For securing the skybox, you could look into a security device, there are a number of security orbs or bots that will eject or teleport home any unauthorized intruders.

-Atashi

Did you try it anyway?

In addition locked doors only stop people opening them... they can still teleport the other side or camera scan in and sit on objects (I think that's correct).

The only reason for locked doors is that it informs someone that they're not really welcome.. but as previous but one poster says, if you're 50m above ground level they can still get in even if you put ban lines in place.

Security orbs are the way to go....

You can ban anyone.

Even Yourself, unless they changed it.

Ugh...that would freak me out! However imho there are no "unbannable" ppl. Well, except for the Lindens who can pop up everywhere.

Mandy C

LOL! If you accidentally ban yourself, can you unban yourself? Or are you SOL? My curiosity makes me want to give it a try tonight.

-Atashi

Thanks for the replies all. I didn't realize about the height limit on the access ban. I'll open things up next time I'm there (I don't think me neighbours have much interest in crossing my land as it goes, but never the less..)

I did add the person to the ban list immediately, that is when he told me I couldn't ban him and, sure enough, he stayed for another few minutes before leaving of his own accord.

I'll look into a security orb. I (now) have a personal security HUD, but nothing to cover my property while I'm not there. Any recommendations in that direction?

You can also eject or freeze avatars if you own the land

Try this one, Rachelle. I'm buying this as soon as I log in after the downtime.

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=82704

Mandy C

yeah you can still right click on exposed land, or position yourself above the 768m(?) ban column to access the land properties and unban yourself. been there, done that.

yep the properway to handle someone on your land who says you cant ban him is to Freeze, then Eject and ban him.

Actually, I was going on a couple people's land in Bora Bora, (i think it was) and they all had different security orbs, that did nothing. They weren't home, and I was just messing on their diving board/slip 'n' slide. >> The only thing it did was spam messages saying that I was going to be ejected, but when the time came, it did nothing.

So, I don't think an orb is the way to go. If you have the $L, you could hire a contrace security guard. But, then someone would still be around to take away your privacy.

Looks to me like a form of not setting it up right. The ones I looked at worked perfectly.

Mandy C

For the security orb / bot to work right, it has to be 'owned' by whomever owns the land. I think people forget that for group-owned land, that means the bot / orb has to be deeded to the group.

I've seen lots of them that work just fine.

-Atashi

have several pf psyke`s? security orbs defending my sky platforms, besides push/eject or tp home options, they take care of any unwanted guest without a problem

When you ban someone who is currently on your property the ban doesn't take effect until you eject them and they are off of your property.

can you ban someone above the ban lines though? thats what i am curious about if it is a fly zone.

C - that was addressed ealier. Not above 100m (I think). So orbs are the way to go.

No if they are BANNED , they are Banned

banlines only apply to people whose access is restricted.

i agree. psykes orbs are the way to go.

I have a Psyke security orb and it works great.

Do you know which function they're using that works for land owners but not someone else? I've been learning more and more about the lsl permissions, but not owning land, I'm not really able to play with that aspect.

Thanks

llTeleportAgentHome teleports the intruder to their home. If they don't own land, or have never set their Home location, then it sends them to wherever they first appeared in world the first time they logged on (usually a Welcome area).

lLEjectFromLand physically ejects the intruder, and they will land on someone else's parcel not far away from yours.

llAddToLandBanList adds the avatar to the ban list in the land properties.

None of these functions will work unless the script is in an object that is owned by the avatar that owns the land the object is on / over. There are some other land-specific functions (eg. media controls etc), but these are the three that would be most commonly used with a security device.

You should know that there are some known issues with some of the LSL functions and in order to prevent security devices from attacking the wrong people, you have to take some extra steps and add some extra precautions. If your orb is attacking innocent people then you can get in trouble for inadvertently griefing folks.

-Atashi