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ivan Supply
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Join date: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 246
02-06-2007 17:12
ok i will be honest and tell that i didint searh a lot in forum for answers...

so my quest is...

does hippie pay for real ? im so sceptic about hippie

please answer me becouse i want to know that from "first hand"

tnx a lot !
Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
02-06-2007 17:25
It does, but it may not be available if you don't live in the US.
Egil Milner
Registered User
Join date: 5 Jan 2007
Posts: 103
02-06-2007 18:08
Sure it "pays," although many of the deals you need to accept to get a payment involve more than just entering an e-mail address so that it can be harvested by spammers.

Oh. You *do* realize that Hippiepay is nothing more than an e-mail harvesting scheme, right?
Matteo Harris
Sweet's Loving Hubby
Join date: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 207
02-06-2007 20:10
It also will load you full of spyware and worms. Id suggest stay away from Hippiepay.
I even saw on another forum site, that hippiepay has password stealing programs.
Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
02-06-2007 20:28
i don't care about spam since i gave it a junk email. if it requires more than email submission, i leave it alone.
Aaleyah Lovell
Registered User
Join date: 6 Feb 2007
Posts: 5
02-06-2007 22:05
I've done a couple of Hippiepay things and yes they do pay you
Michelle Thurston
Registered User
Join date: 14 Jul 2006
Posts: 208
02-06-2007 22:14
Isn't it more or less a pyramid scheme?
Reece Gunawan
.com wannabe, .mobi king
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 413
02-06-2007 22:57
It's not a pyramid scheme and as some people have suggested, you are advised to use an email other than your current one. Sure, they'll spam you. Maybe even make you take part in a few offers to get the linden. My suggestion would be to put a Hippiepay machine on your property rather than taking part in the surveys -- no risk this way. I've put Hippiepay on my properties in the past just to make a little extra cash -- you'd be surprised how many people take surveys when you have machines on 200+ properties :eek:
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
02-06-2007 23:27
From: Reece Gunawan
It's not a pyramid scheme and as some people have suggested, you are advised to use an email other than your current one. Sure, they'll spam you. Maybe even make you take part in a few offers to get the linden. My suggestion would be to put a Hippiepay machine on your property rather than taking part in the surveys -- no risk this way. I've put Hippiepay on my properties in the past just to make a little extra cash -- you'd be surprised how many people take surveys when you have machines on 200+ properties :eek:



Well as I see it, it is a pyramid scheme topped with spamming and virus that will access your computer if allow them.. STAY AWAY! Its not worth ( what is it in rl monies ) 2.00 to 4.00. Its not worth the risk. Buy money..........Just like money making devices where people believe setting their avies over night nets them more money then they use electric bills........ Some ways of money making just don`t change! ........ I wish LLabs would stop PR the game as a fast money concept.
Reece Gunawan
.com wannabe, .mobi king
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 413
02-06-2007 23:40
From: Usagi Musashi
Well as I see it, it is a pyramid scheme topped with spamming and virus that will access your computer if allow them.. STAY AWAY! Its not worth ( what is it in rl monies ) 2.00 to 4.00. Its not worth the risk. Buy money..........Just like money making devices where people believe setting their avies over night nets them more money then they use electric bills........ Some ways of money making just don`t change! ........ I wish LLabs would stop PR the game as a fast money concept.


I agree with you on the PR 'fast money' concept. Most of the very affluent players in SL that I am aware of have very good jobs in RL and even if they make 2-3k in SL monthly, that's chump change compared to what they're making in RL.

A more honest way of promoting it -- something that I would imagine would still encourage many people to join, would be to promote is as a nice way of 'paying the bills' rather than as a full time job making more than people in RL. One doesn't have to look far to see very few people are making RL salaries in SL...

But for me, the ability to make an extra 2k a month -- 2k that I don't need and was actually doing fine in RL before making, is very nice. Now I certainly won't be getting rich anytime soon off 2k a month (lol!) nor will I be quitting my RL job anytime soon, but that extra 2k, presuming it continues, shall allow me to enjoy my life a bit more -- buying those expensive pinots I enjoy much more often and maybe even a better car!

Now, what's wrong with promoting SL as a good way to pay for the chips and beer, all while having fun doing it? That's what I tell people when they ask me why I take part in SL. I have no intention of quitting my RL job ever, regardless of what my SL earnings are -- it's just too unpredictable and nobody really knows if SL will be around say 5 years from now, whereas granted my RL employer has been around for roughly 100 years, I think it's fairly safe to say they will :)
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Usagi Musashi
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02-07-2007 01:28
From: Reece Gunawan
Now, what's wrong with promoting SL as a good way to pay for the chips and beer, all while having fun doing it? That's what I tell people when they ask me why I take part in SL. I have no intention of quitting my RL job ever, regardless of what my SL earnings are -- it's just too unpredictable and nobody really knows if SL will be around say 5 years from now, whereas granted my RL employer has been around for roughly 100 years, I think it's fairly safe to say they will :)


hahha :) well you know with those money tree farmers that them 24 hours aday are the sadest people on sl. They think they are picking free money( there is no net gain ). But infact its not, they spending electric bill monies to pick those money trees. LLAbs are the ones that wins nobody else.........Its bad enough that these money paying devices are sending fake and misguilded views that there is money to be made without holding a job or creating objects or services. I can name many people on sl that are great creators and give back all the time. These few are the wonder workers on sl. Not the these get rich BS devices like the hippie boxes. If you believe in free lunches then..... :rolleyes:
Zaphod Kotobide
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Join date: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 2,087
02-07-2007 05:09
It isn't a pyramid scheme. And as for the spyware, adware, password stealing worms, etc.. Hippypay can't vouch for the integrity of every site they take you to. Just as when you open your browser, search google for something, and start clicking - it's a browser beware world out there, and it is our responsibility to ensure that we do it safely.

I spoke with the owner of hippypay at length as they were constructing their main "bank" adjacent to my property in Scandium. They had some level of contact with John Zdanowski, LL's CFO, as they were putting together the business plan - the pitch being basically "this is better than camping chairs".. and to some extent it is. At least it's interactive, as opposed to clients set loose scrubbing windows, pruning gardens, snoozing in camping chairs, while the account owner snores away in bed.

Is it entirely safe? That depends on what precautions you take before clicking through to a survey site. Use throwaway email addresses, use firefox, have up to date anti virus and anti-scumware installed and running.

zk
ivan Supply
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Join date: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 246
02-07-2007 05:37
ok i put one of those "EVIL " :) machines into mine club...so did i get money if someboday fill whatever he must fill ?

i just want to know did i spend my nvaluable 9 primitives for nothing ... :) or i can earn a little money with ?

any TIP ?

tnx my good ppl ...

lets discover that HIPPIE mystery ...
Gaybot Foxley
Input Collector
Join date: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 584
02-07-2007 05:45
In my opinion, based on my experience with Hippie pay, it is safe to use. I have never downloaded any viruses or adware that I am aware of after taking surveys. I scan my computer every week for this kind of malicious software and have never discovered any after using Hippie pay sites. I would encourage people to skip over the few sites that require you to download software unless it is of actual interest to you. There are only one or two of these sites that requires a software download. One hundred or so Linden dollars is not worth the risk of downloading unknown software to me. For added protection, you can clear your browser's cache, history, and cookies after a survey session. Hippie Pay claims you must use real information or you will be blacklisted and banned from their services. I assume they could do this by IP address and or Second Life screen names. I have never heard of anyone being banned for using false information.
Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
02-07-2007 05:54
I love these remarks.....yea yea yea........... :rolleyes:
Daniele Hesse
Registered User
Join date: 23 Sep 2006
Posts: 3
I tried Hippypay beware
02-14-2007 18:23
I filled out on survey and got no money even though i completed the forms. At least one site hippypay supports gives you a nasty virus. RockStar games killed Windows on my machine.
it required a full format to rid myself of it. With $1 = $L266 why bother?
Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
02-14-2007 18:32
From: Daniele Hesse
I filled out on survey and got no money even though i completed the forms. At least one site hippypay supports gives you a nasty virus. RockStar games killed Windows on my machine.
it required a full format to rid myself of it. With $1 = $L266 why bother?



The sad real truth about these objects.OMG don`t people understand the electric you pay running your computers?

Your right for only 266l?
Reece Gunawan
.com wannabe, .mobi king
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 413
02-14-2007 19:27
A real free money idea -- put a casino on your land then turn off your computer. Come back in a week. Yes! Real free money lol... And expect a handful of emails from angry nearby residents for all the hell you caused.
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Usagi Musashi
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02-14-2007 20:10
i just love these types of remarks.....
Arikinui Adria
Elucidated Deviant
Join date: 18 Aug 2006
Posts: 592
02-14-2007 20:43
What is a hippiepay?

I had several people trying to rez a hippiepay ATM in the public areas of my sim all day (although I will say that the object said several times that it is against their policy for these things to be activated on any land not owned by the person doing the rezzing*).

Where was I? Oh yeah....what is it?

Search inworld just told me where to get one.

~Ari

*paraphrased...was too busy IMing the person to inform them of their..um...error.
Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
02-14-2007 23:41
heh hippie pay is basically a marketting leads thing in fact i think they are actualy a part of a site that I use for leads I would post the url just so you can compare the two but not sure if that is "legal"

do a search for uh leadermarkets.com
nevermind just go there
if this is an evil post i would imagine someone will fix it
Bloodsong Termagant
Manic Artist
Join date: 22 Jan 2007
Posts: 615
02-15-2007 06:48
heyas;

i used to belong to a few web survey groups, so i checked this out. here is what i noticed.


most of these 'surveys' are not real surveys.

1: some are 'offers' for trial memberships, which you will have to pay for after the trial period. others are outright purchases you have to make, such as for ringtones. whether these are worth 'trying' or 'buying' is up to you.


2: if you start a 'survey' and the survey questions are things like 'do you want this free sample?' 'do you want that free sample?' 'do you smoke and do you want free smoking accessories?' and 'do you have or are you expecting a baby and where can we send you diapers?' etc -- just quit out immediately.
first, you will have to fill out about a dozen pages or so of the same offers offered to you over and over again.
second, when you get done with that 'survey,' you don't qualify as having completed the survey until you do three more surveys just like it. (which also require three more to be completed, which require three more to be completed and so on.) if there is an end to this, i haven't found it.
third, even if you say 'no, no, a thousand times no' to all the 'offers,' you'll still get a boatload of junk email, directly targeted to you, so your spam filter won't kill it.


3: they might list legitimate surveys that do have small payouts for giving actual opinions on things. as of yet, i haven't found any there.



i'm sure it's quite legitimate, and if you ever actually manage to complete any of the 'surveys,' you'll get paid.
Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
02-15-2007 06:52
From: Bloodsong Termagant

i'm sure it's quite legitimate, and if you ever actually manage to complete any of the 'surveys,' you'll get paid.


yea but for 266l to $1. no thank you.Not worth the risk.
Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
02-15-2007 07:05
I imagine in Japan the expense could be a factor, but here running a computr all night does not have a noticeable effect on my electric bill. As for those Offers to Complete deals, avaoid them. I tried one once, Not in SL, for the "Free Laptop". Complete 3 offers. the requirements of one of the offers was Complete 3 more offers, and so on. Not worth the effort
Kidd Krasner
Registered User
Join date: 1 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,938
02-15-2007 08:23
My experience:

I've completed two surveys via HippiePay, and got paid both times.

The first time I had to sign up with an separate survey web site, and gave them a temporary email. I've gotten survey requests directly from them, but all they do is give you points in the typical "get enough points and get this free item that isn't worth the shipping you still have to pay" setup. Sometimes I'll do the survey anyway for the fun of it, particularly if it helps me promote my "quality comes first, advertising is usually evil" mentality.

The point I didn't understand at first is that I don't get HippiePay L$ for completing surveys sent to me via email by that other company, but if I run across a HippiePay machine, and complete a survey from there, then I do get the L$. So, unless you really like doing surveys, just do the ones you get when you're at a HippiePay machine in SL.

I'm pretty sophisticated when it comes to recognizing viruses, malicious web sites, etc. I never download software from these sites. At times, I'll wind up at a web site that tries to take over the browser (usually from other paths, not these survey sites), but I know how to deal with those. I use only Firefox, with AdBlock Plus and various other extensions.

Conclusion: If you're confidant that you can recognize scams, misleading marketing, and worse, and if you have ready access to temporary email addresses, and if you find some amusement value in completing surveys, and if you often find yourself a little bored in SL, then it's worth it. You won't get rich (maybe 30 cents US each time), but you won't lose a lot of time either.

But if you're nervous about viruses, paranoid about evil websites, run IE with ActiveX enabled, etc., then run in the opposite direction, do not touch go, do not try to collect L$200.
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