Can camping really make this much!?

I live in a two bedroom apartment. My electric bill is rarely less than a hundred dollars - I expect to pay 150 - 200 dollars a month for the next few summer months. Been like that for at least ten years now.

'Taint nuttin' funny 'bout it.

The OP had the maths wrong. 3L$ per 10 minutes running 24/7 would generate 432L$ a day, or about 1.6 USD. Let's assume you run 5 alts off one (high end) machine, that's 8 USD a day.

In 8 months, assuming no electricity bills to pay and that you can guarantee you'll always have a chair to sit on, you will pay for your brand new computer, by which time it will be obsolete. And remember, boys and girls, for those 8 months it has been sitting doing nothing but camping - you haven't been using it for anything else at all.

When I lived in an apartment my electric bill was twice what it is now that I moved into a house. I have the same percentage of gas and electric appliances so I have no idea why it got cheaper.

I don't camp. Something about sitting in a beanbag chair that has had a million others in it before me just makes me shiver.

You probably have electric heating, I have a gas.. and when I lived in a condo, our electric was about $25 a month.. 3 people in my family.. no idea what you do to g et it so high lol

HHAHAHAH yea right........"my electrical bill is never more than $30-$40 USD a month and I live in a 4 bedroom 3 story house.."

umm, why would I lie about that?

what the point if one is always camping and not playin inworld?
Some people are just saying their bills are low, but really some are living the RL as a VR too. They no diff between rl and sl.Hence the total laughable low electric bill. Some people just are too stupid for their own good.

Nice correct warda! thanks for pointing it out.

I totally agree.

Ok, apart from me having my math wrong and the profits being lower than I said, I also checked around at many camping sites. I can NOT find any that don't require you to first play a gambling machine (usually a minimum of L$10) to even activate the camping chair. Then it counts time cycles and will usually kick you off after a certain number, meaning you have to sit again and gamble again.

Maybe camping once was an easy way to make money, but it does not appear to be so anymore.

i have tried this idea of leaving myself camping at a certain beach so i could go to bed. In the morning i switch the monitor on to find a message to say that as i was inactive for 30 mins i was logged off. I have an anti-idle attachment.

At work so I can't test, but I know Gold Rush only allows payment verified people in (via the land parcel settings)... are you sure this isn't it?

I think those camping bots were like land bots, not the official version of the client. A stripped down version. I think the guy is saying those non-official clients are banned from camping areas.

But I could be wrong...

I have Gas heat and stove so my electric is very low... Yes it is true $30 to $50 a month at the most.... NO lie here!! And I have special electric medical equipment and my TV stays on 24/7. But I am in an apartment.

It depends on if you are a person that leaves lights on or things plugged in. I know people who work for Pacific Gas & Electric and even if the Coffee maker and Toaster isn't on if its pluged into the socket it will push that "kilowatt clock" a bit faster on the meter, also how many clocks do you have plugged in .. it all adds up which means higher bills.

It all boils down to what kind of energy user you are and where in the U.S. or what country for that matter you live reflects on how much your bill will be.

So I dont think anyone is lieing about how much thier bill is like Sensual said..... why would she lie about it... there is no reason to.

Could a libsecondlife powered program distinguish avatars that are sitting on campchairs?

Assuming this is possible, what could one do with this ability?

Unnoficial clients are not banned either, I guarantee it

It is trivial to detect avatars that are sitting, though more complex to determine whether what they are sitting on a campchair. If there is floating text for the campchairs that is reliably pattern matched then it is possible.

I wonder if you meant, though, whether it was possible to distinguish a bot sitting on a campchair? I cannot immediately think of a way, though here's an interesting bit of trivia: Look at any bot, if you don't know of any contact me in-game and I will log in mine (a combat bot, not a landbot!), and then pan your camera back about 40 meters. Most, if not all, bots I have ever seen will turn solid grey. That indicates to me that there is a distinguishing characteristic that can be tested, though I would hesitate to say it was reliable. Hmm.... That might just indicate that the codebase I used didn't handle appearance correctly and that I need to merge in newer code from libsl.

There are other characteristics that might be tested for, but I doubt any of them are terribly reliable. Still, it might be an interesting thing to research if I wasn't in the busiest end stages of a product dev cycle.

I did mean avatars, not bots - but I might should have meant bots.

I'm wondering if one could keep a record of how long certain avatars sit at certain camp chairs.

Interesting about the gray avatars at a distance, I seem to recall having read that.

I wonder what other ways a libsecondlife client could detect other libsecondlife clients, or for that matter, what fullfeatured open source SL clients could have added to them to detect non-standard clients in their surroundings.

Well, maybe some libsecondlife coder will feel like fiddling with the idea of detecting non-standard-clients.

Certainly it is possible, though I am not sure of the benefit of using libsl over lsl in that case. A libsl client could be more certain of whether an avatar was sitting in a particular chair, but a script could make a pretty well educated guess based on proximity and llGetAgentInfo().

I don't know of any foolproof way, but there are some indications that could give reason for inquiry. Most older bots don't type when talking, though that has become far less common. Most bots don't do any sort of PointAt (such as when clicking or editing, or even turning the head in response to nearby chatter). Most have a bent-legged stand that is even lamer than the default stand anim, perhaps because they are not updating the anim states. Obviously most bots have no obstacle avoidance built in at all, so bots that are walking around tend to be easy to pick out. And finally, combat bots have an absolutely ungodly reaction time

My friends who do camp in casinos where the camping bots are a problem tell me the owners will eject and ban camping bots since they never gamble but they need to be identified by the regulars first. Usually once a group of bots get banned a new crop show up a few days later and whole process needs to be repeated but the casino owners want people sitting in camping chairs to gamble as well as collecting the camping bonuses so nongambling camping bots are generally not welcome.

Every client is responsible for baking the texture of its own avie and uploading that back to the sim. In the case where the baked texture isn't available for someone else, you'll either see "missing image", or you'll download the clothing layers yourself and your own viewer will try to make up for the missing baked texture by drawing each layer over the other avie (which is apparantly 'expensive' in terms of performance so it might stop doing that for avies a certain distance away).

I guess bots aren't likely to compose a baked texture for themselves so that could explain why, from a distance, it looks all grey. Try a clear cache, turn the "Outfit Composite Limit" (Preferences / Adv Graphics) to 0, relog and then log your bot on and see if it ever rezzes clothes at all then from closeby .

That grey thing happens even when you've got the full appearance of the bot. You can see it with the dance bots at sine wave. Walk around, and their bodysuit skins all load up, then back away and *poof* grey avs.