Age play

I'm seeing more and more highly sexualized little girl avatars with names, profiles and titles which make it very clear that they are advertising sexual role play with children. I'm talking shopping malls and infohubs, not private sims. I seriously doubt I am in the minority when I say this is not appropriate and that this is an issue that concerns all of us. Yes, I understand that they are legally entitled to be pretend pedophiles, but I also understand that I have the right to not have it paraded in front of me when I go buy some shoes in a mall. I don't think LL can do anything about this, legally; consequently, I think it calls for resident answers. I'm certainly NOT calling for crowds of avatars with torches. I'm asking for rational discussion about what we can do. I can't be alone in this.

Anyone?

Don't look at their profiles?

Seriously, I've been here for flippin' ever and I have yet to see these hordes of pedophiles in training that some say are invading the grid. What am I missing?

K.

I haven't seen any of these either. If you are seeing this kind of stuff in a PG-sim, I think it qualifies as being something of a sexual nature that should not be there and be reported accordingly. Perhaps it could be nicely pointed out to these people that they need to go to a mature sim in order to do whatever it is they're doing that makes it apparent that they are advocating pedophilia role-play.

In a Mature sim, though, I don't know that there's much that can be done. They do have a right to be there.

Edit:
1. Having a right to be in a mature sim = assuming they actually are people over 18 who are just playing child avatars.

2. ONE thing I can think of that can be done - property owners are allowed to kick undesirables off their property. If a property owner says sorry, no tarted-up child Avs allowed into my mature area, and wants to individually kick them out, they have that right.

I would just mute and ignore them. There is no way to prove their real age unless it is apparent in their profile or if they say so in which case you should file an abuse report. Also report them if they are doing things of a sexual nature in a PG sim. Otherwise, I would not report anything because Linden Labs is already flooded with abuse reports; and they will prob not respond to it just because another resident finds it offensive. I have no problem with child avatars; in fact, I have one myself. However, I do not participate in sexual or mature activities of any kind in Second Life, especially not with a child avatar. That is disgusting.

I was looking for soccer fields in SL last week, every single one was deserted. On the last one I see on the map there are people on the pitch so I tp there. I go and sit in the bleachers to watch what is going on. On the field was 2 adult avs and 3 kids. Nothing sexual or anything of the type was going on or anything it just weirded me out completly so I tped away. Now in my opinion they werent doing anything wrong, it was just weird as heck, but as long as they arent doing anything more then calisthetics in tutus on a soccer pitch then they should be let be.

On the other hand a few days later I was at one of my normal places I hang out, a place there should be no child avatars, and in fact the mayor has it in the rules of the sim. But there one was, with a rather digusting profile and some guy was chatting with this av in an inappropriate manner. That sort of thing should not be allowed.

Thanks for the mostly reasonable responses. As I said, these are not just child avatars, which I don't have a problem with. I'm talking about child avatars in PG places, like infohubs, and shopping malls, with titles that say suggestive things and they are making sexual comments in open chat. A couple days ago, there was a child avatar in an infohub who was saying in open chat that she was 8 years old and wasn't wearing panties. Today, I was in a shopping mall, and there was a child avatar with a title that was advertising herself sexually.

Now, I never said anything about "hoardes" and I believe I made it pretty clear that I was not sniffing around looking for this stuff. I fully expected that I would get responses that implied that this is just me with a stick up my butt. What I said was that I'm starting to see more and more of this stuff out in the open.

I believe this is a problem for the community as a whole. How long until CNN features this story?

If I was in law enforcement and wanted to catch pedophiles, I would dress up like a child and advertise myself. Then I would contact LL to find out who used my services and I would keep an eye on their activities in RL.

From what I understand, Age Players are pretty good at sticking to their sims so if someone is out trolling, I would have to wonder why.

Bait perhaps? In SL things are not as they seem. We are not dragons or fabulous in the ways we make ourselves and often we are not even the gender that our Av portrays (1 out of 5 female Avatars is a man in RL).

I would make complaints to LL big time and often. At some point this is going to be a problem for them like MY Space who is now being sued by 2 families for damages done to their daughters.

I will complain if I see it too.

This is unacceptable and the Lindens need to put a stop to it ASAP. Forget your general run of the mill griefing, this kind of thing borders on the criminal. (I'm no lawyer but I think in some places it crosses the border, regardless of the actual age of the person behind the keyboard.) You can bet I'll be making abuse reports on the spot if I witness anyone acting like this. Remember, get screenshots, names, time & place if you decide to file a report so the Lindens will have something to go on.

IMing the owner of the mall where you saw it is a great idea too, especially in a PG sim. Even if the Lindens can't/won't act, the individual owner might.

BTW I also want to say I have nothing against child avatars per se, as long as nothing that smells like pedophilia is going on.

Katie

Greetings Hey - Age Play is a difficult issue, this is the discussion of ones right to be able to express themselves by parading and 'Cybering' with young looking avatars.
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All we can do is hope that these 'young children' arent actually, 'young children' due to the fact that there is nothing for Linden Labs to do on the adults playing young children. Unfortunatly these people have the right to express themselves in such disgusting acts, unless they are in a PG parcel doing Mature things.

With That Said..

You can do the following to try and ignore these acts...

1. Mute the avatars
   
2. Ignore going to parcels with 'Henti' or any sub Age Play name
   
3. Report innapropriate profiles
   
4. Report any hints of actuall underage 'Age Play'
   
   

Good luck on your quest to defeat age play. -Joker

There have been a zillion posts over this issue, to the point that even starting it up again (by someone who is aware of the lightning-rod ability for this subject to stir the pot) - is considered poor taste.

But I'll assume the original thread starter doesn't know this, so here's the solution:

1) Ignore the behaviour.
2) Disallow it on your own lands.
3) Go elsewhere.

I allow people to pretend to be children on my land, that's just playing a character as far as I'm concerned.

But I ban any combination of sexuality and pretending (or being) under the age of consent. There, done deal.

I've been pondering my own motivation in posting this, and I think that I have to be honest and say that I was just so disgusted and depressed by this that I wanted to hear that I wasn't alone in feeling this. It was a selfish act, and I will just shut up now. You're right, mute, ignore, move on.

Sorry.

What i want to know is what sick F**K is attracted to these little girl av's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bit my lip since this thread was posted earlier today. My question is: Why do we have to be exposed to this disgusting sh** in the first place? It's a universally taboo act and "culture" in the world of civilized communities........and we don't have any way to defend ourselves but to mute and move on? How is that an answer to the problem? Shrug our collective shoulders and move on................what a lame way to treat a real problem.

"Politically correct" way to treat it? Yeah............way to go guys. We need to address it up front and stop it!! Shout to the powers that be that it is a an unacceptable situation being openly allowed in a public place (and even allowed in secret places in private places). It's criminal in every civilized society in the world........why do we have to put up with it?

Shrug your shoulders......be quiet........say it's none of our business!! And just further the crime in the real world. Great way to take care of it.

AR it...............email your abuse report as a back up..........call your concerns in to LL. Make Linden Labs stop it. If that doesn't work call your local police, your local news outlet, your local political representative.................Call Bill O'Rielly!!

Make it stop. No excuses.

Jesus H. Christ please tell me you're kidding. On second thought, it all makes sense now.



Here's what you do: AR the creeps. Enough of this BS about how the Lindens must police this corrupted world and rescue our senses from being offended. Enough of these posts. The creeps are out there. This is no news flash. AR them, then mute them, and go on about your second life.

zk

And the creeps are still here.......enticing others to their sick world. Jacking off or fingering themselves to squrting climaxes. And furthering this sick and drepraved "lifestyle"..............and you and most of the people won't do a thing to really stop it!! Yeah..............that's the way to stop it.

Would you be willing to allow a Klu Klux Klan encourager to roam free in SL? How about an Al Quida advocator? I mean it's their right to seek their pleasure too. There are somethings that need direct confrontation...........not some simple "AR it and move on solution". Linden Labs has shown their hand at solving problems...they don't. And if they won't stand up this time either if no one shouts very loudly.........and because of that they don't deserve anything less than Bill O'Reilly.

The sick fu**s are out there.......I know that. But to give them safe haven in SL is wrong. It's really just as bad and aiding and abetting.

Get your head out of your ass..........it's child pornography. It's criminal. It needs to stop.

Write to your congressperson. And the media.

age play - becuase of how widespread an issue Pedophilia is in Western culture is probably the hardest kink to be open minded about.

I cant - I find it truley obscene for people to pretend to molest children. And for people to pretend to get molested.

Every single person in the US likely knows someone who was molested as a child. This makes it really impossible to fathom at the whys of this particular kink.


This all said - I beleive in freedom. SO this is a tough one. Generally the ageplayers dont look for partners in the mianstream SL. Ive met an exception once and I muted/banned her.

I think if People are going to do this they should keep to themselves out of Sensibility to Others.

Surely they know how pervasive the revulsion is.

Whew!!! Thanks. I was begining to wonder if I was alone.

Not all ageplay is about sexuality.
Most isn't.

Please be careful when you paint with such broad brushes.

People with child avatars are treated with incredible hatred in SL. Moreso than furries and people with "overweight" realistic avatars. It is incredibly hard to RP a child in this world.. and posts like the above.. sensationalize the issue, and make it "popular" and "morally right" to grief, harass, and verbally assault people.. simply because their avatar is child-like.

Mods.. really.. this has been done to death. can we lock this flamewar-in-the-making?

And to the ones who find it not revulsive it strengthens them in numbers. It furthers the crime. It gives legitimacy to their perversion. Go ahead..............keep silent and see some child in RL get raped and molested. Nice!!

Hide..........go ahead........hide.

As Desmond said if you don't like this kind of activity then don't expose yourself to it. Mute, A/R and do whatever you feel you need to do but please don't subject us to the 1,849,973th thread on this subject.

I think that people concerned about child sexual abuse should be looking at their own family and friends instead of scouring the internet. Just my own professional opinion.

PS: I think this thread needs to be locked.

I was under the beleif "age play" was the sexual component to pretending to be a child.

While actually being a child avatar without a sexual component was not age play.

I dont see anything wrong with people playing on child avatars in a non sexual way at all.

I dont even have any problem with Obviously adult avatars doing baby talk or teacher/school girl talk.

My concern would be obvious child avatars and sexual play, especially trying to push it on others not in their kink circles.

No it's not. And my head isn't up my ass, thanks. It's offensive to you, to me, and to every other person with a decent mind about things. Child pornography it is not. Adults exposing their dark side? Perhaps. Disgusting? Definately. But let's not go nuts here and call Bill O'Reilly. If we do, may I be the first to offer my services in designing his avatar? Step down from the soap box, and go on about your Second Lives. If you can't seem to unglue your shoes from said soap box, then.. ..then.. oh, I won't say it. It doesn't need to be said.

I guess I'm done............but I will refer this thread to Linden Labs and ask for some solution. And if that goes the way as I expect, then my congressman and my senator (Barbara Boxer.....she's big on child pornography and has jurisdiction in San Francisco too) and if all else fails....my buddy Bill O'Reilly.

Bury your heads folks.............it has to stop.

I asume your post isnt a commnet on my post - however if it is you should slow down. As Ive said I find the kink objectionable.

I dont know how you could quantify people remaining silent about online ageplay and actual situations of child abuse. Its not like the fact children are sexually abused isnt always present in modern society.

And though online age play is highly objectionable. In order to protect children theres a lot better places to start than banning people who usually are not pedophiles from Second Life.

Remember the participants in online Age Play are all supposedly adults.

Additionally most of the actual underage children in Second Life are most likely all having their cyber sex on adult avatars with other adult avatars.