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Why Not Type In All Caps?

Usagi Musashi
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02-14-2007 17:33
From: Kira Zobel
You are my hero for posting this, yes.

Something else that bothers me greatly is when people don't put spaces after punctuation,so they are typing like this.It is greatly annoying to read,and...just typing like that was painful.


For the sake that one does not know, there are people in their Real Lives that have problems typing, spelling, etc.......

1.)not everyone is a english speaker or writter ( most are english speakers ).
2.) there are many with physical disabilities or emotional. Thes provents them from typing in a correct manner all the time.
3.) have you ever used multi-languge keyboard? At times they are improssible to control. I have to deal with english, Japanese, and chinese in my rl work. And when switching from one set of fonts to another causes a mismatch of spacing at times.
4.) its these same people that makes fun or people spelling etc. But they don`t know another languge themselves ther then a online translator.........
5.) Sl is full of diff people in education, econs, etc..... these types of replies really shows how narow minded and self centered people are on sl.
Usagi Musashi
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02-14-2007 17:38
I dont understand the reasoning behind that persons remarks either Wildefire
I think that person is talking over its head.....
Angelique LaFollette
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02-14-2007 18:34
From: Usagi Musashi
I dont understand the reasoning behind that persons remarks either Wildefire
I think that person is talking over its head.....

Usagi, it is extremely Rude to refer to a Human being as "It". If you are That Anal about Language this is One point you should already Understand. I will Thank you for an Apology.

Angel.
Daisy Rimbaud
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02-15-2007 02:51
I have mixed feelings about the sort of textspeak referred to in some of the posts above.

I find the use of "U R" for "you are" quite intolerable, and to me it marks out the speaker as a person of no account.

On the other hand, I will happily use "brb" myself as an abbreviation no more objectionable that typing "USA" for "United States of America" or "awol" for "absent without official leave".

Particularly when the occasions when one has to type "brb" are often the times when a quick exit from the keyboard is required.

I don't have a problem with "lol" as indicating laughter if used moderately, but I'll usually type "hehe" or "hahaha". What I really object to is people who use "lol" as an answer to anything, especially criticism.
Usagi Musashi
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02-15-2007 04:07
Get use to it, there are many that are so narrow minded its not funny.
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bilbo99 Emu
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02-15-2007 04:12
From: Daisy Rimbaud
I have mixed feelings about the sort of textspeak referred to in some of the posts above.

I find the use of "U R" for "you are" quite intolerable, and to me it marks out the speaker as a person of no account.

On the other hand, I will happily use "brb" myself as an abbreviation no more objectionable that typing "USA" for "United States of America" or "awol" for "absent without official leave".

Particularly when the occasions when one has to type "brb" are often the times when a quick exit from the keyboard is required.

I don't have a problem with "lol" as indicating laughter if used moderately, but I'll usually type "hehe" or "hahaha". What I really object to is people who use "lol" as an answer to anything, especially criticism.

Hello Daisy, you happily accept brb and awol but condemn ur? This is interesting. You have evidently set yourself a limit there but I wonder on what basis?

Personal preference is fine but using it to judge others seems somewhat harsh.

In chat and IM I think most if not all of us realise it's a throwaway. Very little will be read a second or subsequent time. The purpose is to get a point across quickly and efficiently so we largely go for the widely accepted shortcuts.

LOL has been in regular use of mine for 10 years or so now but I meet people in-world who ask 'what's lol?' That's fine by me. I explain happily as the one in a hundered or so who need the explanation is more than amply paid off by the 99 who accepted it.

Often when I type, especially a response, I'll launch into a flurry often forgetting to capitalise. I'd miss the first one but as soon as I hit a period and a space I subconciously press shift for the cap. When I get to the end I notice the first cap missing. Sometimes reaction kicks in again and I correct. Other times I'll say to my self 'get the point across now quickly' and hit enter. Similar with typos. Far easier to send another line corrected than use the cursor to spend time correcting.

Speed is an important factor in conversation and typing to what ever convention you yourself follow is more important for the exchange, hence the adoption of quick throwaway shortcuts.

Caps I can accept without problem. Some punctuation makes my comprehension much easier but then, I sympathise with the poster. kk?
Emily Darrow
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02-15-2007 04:51
To all you places that post events in CAPS I'd like to thank you for warning me off with little effert. I simply refuse to got to any event listed in all CAPS.
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02-15-2007 05:35
I have no issues with using the term "LOL" since i do it all the time. I find it to be a nice fast way to express how i feal at that moment. However i will never use it like this "lolololol" because i think that is just plain butchery of net speak. It makes absolutely no sense. If i did that IRL, i would expect the next words out of someone else's mouth to be "WILSON!!!" before i get hit with a metal bat. :P
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02-15-2007 06:00
From: Yiffy Yaffle
I have no issues with using the term "LOL" since i do it all the time. I find it to be a nice fast way to express how i feal at that moment. However i will never use it like this "lolololol" because i think that is just plain butchery of net speak. It makes absolutely no sense. If i did that IRL, i would expect the next words out of someone else's mouth to be "WILSON!!!" before i get hit with a metal bat. :P


LOL ... sorry ;) I've seen lolol and worse and often wondered at which point it translates to a ROFL.

Truth be told, my RL fiancee typed ROFKL as a typo once and apologised but I pointed out we needed a further level of enjoyment :D
Daisy Rimbaud
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02-15-2007 08:06
From: bilbo99 Emu
Hello Daisy, you happily accept brb and awol but condemn ur? This is interesting. You have evidently set yourself a limit there but I wonder on what basis?

Personal preference is fine but using it to judge others seems somewhat harsh.


brb and awol are acronyms; u and r are not. That's the difference - between abbreviation and deliberate mis-spelling.

And as for judgement, it's done on the basis of observation that the sort of person that uses that sort of disrespect to language usually turns out to be the sort of person whose company I'm not going to enjoy much. If they can demonstrate to the contrary, fine, but they are starting off on a bad note as far as I'm concerned.

Equally, anyone who thinks it's clever or amusing to type "pwn" the whole time is someone I'm not likely to find interesting.

As for typing at speed and making mistakes, that's a different issue. I'm as bad as anyone at getting my fingers twisted at times when a lot is happening, and typing things like "don;t" or leaving "I" uncapitalized. That's an accident and I don't blame anyone for that.
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02-15-2007 08:42
Sorry Daisy, I wasn't directing the typo problem at you but simply adding it to my small point.

Well one of my best friends, known in RL for years before coming to SL, usually opens with 'how ru?'

Not trying to score points or flame you but just suggesting that a 'proper' use of English isn't neccessarily a good judgement point for friendship. Guess we agree to differ ;)
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02-15-2007 08:50
I can't help but wonder if someone is stoned in RL when I get an IM out of the blue like:

Hi lmao are you online rofl ?

(why me? did you run out of munchies?)
Daisy Rimbaud
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02-15-2007 12:23
From: bilbo99 Emu
Well one of my best friends, known in RL for years before coming to SL, usually opens with 'how ru?'

Not trying to score points or flame you but just suggesting that a 'proper' use of English isn't neccessarily a good judgement point for friendship. Guess we agree to differ ;)


You're not flaming me, you're just saying that your friend can't be bothered to type English to you.
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02-17-2007 03:22
From: Jopsy Pendragon
And When You Start Each Word With A Cap... You Start To Sound Like Kirk From Star Trek...

My... Ship... My... Crew... My... God... Spock... Do You Realize... That Our Universal Translators Must Work That Much Harder To Cope With My Bizzare Form... Of Enunciation?


LOL, luv it :)

An whats'e with dam emoticons & smilies aye way ? Why can't people type <I am smiling> instead? :P :)
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Kathrine Wirtanen
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02-17-2007 03:26
From: Isablan Neva
I'm for a fourth and will raise the ante by adding that typing "u" in place of "you" is guaranteed to render your post unread by 95% of your audience, all of whom will assume that you are a barely literate 15 year-old who belongs on the teen grid*.

(*unless your post is a parody making fun of barely literate 15 year-olds who belong on the teen grid...)


We, sorry but if you can't evolve and follow the SMS speak of the current generation, then you will have to just fall by the wayside, I'm 39 and using NP on work emails because others are too. And we still get traditionalists whinging about it, sorry if I don't have time to waste typing "No Problem" when others seem to have time to devote multiple work time emails argueing about it, but still not getting my departments orders processed.
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Usagi Musashi
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02-17-2007 05:42
How much longer are the res mods going to allow this thread to live? Gesh
Kathrine Wirtanen
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02-17-2007 06:43
From: Usagi Musashi
How much longer are the res mods going to allow this thread to live? Gesh


Why? You enjoy seeing threads die?

Don't like it, don't watch it..................
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02-17-2007 07:47
From: Kathrine Wirtanen
We, sorry but if you can't evolve and follow the SMS speak of the current generation, then you will have to just fall by the wayside, I'm 39 and using NP on work emails because others are too. And we still get traditionalists whinging about it, sorry if I don't have time to waste typing "No Problem" when others seem to have time to devote multiple work time emails argueing about it, but still not getting my departments orders processed.



you confused evolve for regress here
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Usagi Musashi
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02-17-2007 08:17
why? because................never mind....... :rolleyes:
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02-17-2007 09:10
From: Kathrine Wirtanen
We, sorry but if you can't evolve and follow the SMS speak of the current generation, then you will have to just fall by the wayside, I'm 39 and using NP on work emails because others are too. And we still get traditionalists whinging about it, sorry if I don't have time to waste typing "No Problem" when others seem to have time to devote multiple work time emails argueing about it, but still not getting my departments orders processed.


Reading comprehension is a critical skill. I didn't say anything about acronyms, I singled out a specific usage that 95% of the time indicates someone who is young and not exactly bright. I was also referring to forum posting, not text messaging where it makes more sense to use as few letters as possible. Irregardless of how often the rest of us use SMS speak acronyms, which is often, replacing "you" with "u" is still guaranteed to cause a negative reaction in most of your audience, especially when used by somebody sitting in front of a full keyboard. Why? Because we've all seen too many of these, "ZOMG u sux, i h8 u !!1111" and now associate "u" with clueless teenagers. Word associations are powerful things and the bottom line is that FWIW is socially acceptable for shortening a 4 word phrase, shortening a 3 letter "you" to "u" is sloppy and lazy. You may be using NP on work emails, but I'll bet you fully type out "you," unless you don't care about your next promotion....

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02-17-2007 09:19
From: Kathrine Wirtanen
Why can't people type <I am smiling> instead? :P :)

Because '/me smiles' looks much better in chat.
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02-17-2007 11:08
A lot of this word shortening is done to get the message across at something close to actual speaking speed too, mind you this may all fall by the wayside when headssets in SL become the norm, but it has it's own problems as in WoW and other games where headseat wearers just about ignore non headset people trying to talk to them on the text chat chanels
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02-17-2007 12:34
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grammarian.htm

Just sayin'. ;)
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02-17-2007 13:40
Anyone know of an easy way to find words that are anagrams and which also have the same first and last letter?

When I say easy I am hoping for a site that has a list of such. I don't mean easy like having to do any work to accomplish the goal.

The scrambled interior letters phenomenon seems to me to involve having a concept or image of a properly sequenced word in mind that we are able to recognize even when the interior letters are scrambled.

If interior letter order was somehow declared to be irrelevant, creating a new word, like "wabletross", for example, would preclude the creation of distinct words such as "wastreblos".

It might be amusing to have a forum or chat room that automatically performed interior letter scrambling on one's posts.
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