Cannot add the word Loli to classified ad?

Hes a Landbot owner and she just got her land swooped.

She caught him in a mature area with a phone weasel

'sides .... with that hairdo, she's doing him a favour

A phone weasel in a Lolita outfit.

Why are you expanding the issue then then sticking to the heart of it.......

As someone who wears loli clothes I can tell you that this pisses me off! The only work around i can think of is to use rori instead.

People abuse search engines ALL THE TIME.

Google may not filter individual words, but it does in fact actively filter and block websites, in order to provide the most relevant information possible. I have even had over-eager SEO techniques get one of my sites blocked on Google, until I found out what I was doing wrong and fixed the problem, so I can tell you from first-hand experience that what you say just isn't true.

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Robby, no offense, but tell me one relevant word (not common words such as it, the, but, to, etc) that google filters?

That's the comparison here. We're talking turning these words into bad words more or less.

In case any of you guys hadn't noticed, right now LL is in a situation (sexual ageplay) that could, if mishandled, easily spell the end of SL. Personally, I think a little self-censorship is reasonable given how close to the edge this situation is. One of my friends who builds sims for corporate clients, has seen his backlog of work cancelled, with this ageplay issue in the news cited as the reason.

And yes, technicaly it is LL censoring and not self-censorship. But the fact that you don't want this censored shows that you guys wouldn't self-censor anyway. And yes, I also realize there are many legitimate uses for that word, but we both know that's not what the mass media will leap on. Sexual ageplay sells newspapers. Loli's Italian maisonettes doesn't. Which angle do you think teh press will use?

Well, do a search for loli and you'll come up with a list of av names. Will those be banned/changed? 101 of them to be exact.

I think that LL has completely failed to point out, toward both the media and legal authorities, that minors aren't allowed on the adult grid. And also that LL simply rents server space to adult users who are responsible for the content they create, similar to the normal 2D internet; if anyone has problems with the content of my website, they won't bother my webhoster.

Besides, that the situation gets quite tricky because there really could be minors on the adult grid is entirely LL's fault. Verification by credit card may fail to exclude every teenager, but it's web-wide accepted as legally sufficient means of age verification. For non-US and non-European countries, additional verification methods could have been added, similar to the identity verification that is planned now (way too late).

There are more than 100 "Lolitas" in people search.

You can still find "elegant gothic lolita" clothing so long as you don't use the word "lolita".

The large problem here is:

Linden Labs has a hard time selling themselves as a service provider because they are the ONLY service provider for SecondLife. A search engine like Google can simply say "we let you search the internet...what you find is up to you". Linden Labs MUST accept that ALL things in SecondLife are currently controllable by them. By this virtue, they must be much more careful and much more restrictive in their actions.

I hope that people continue to realize in larger and larger numbers that: SecondLife is NOT a game and that Linden Labs is NOT a game-publisher, but a service-provider. However, much of the current population still believes that SL is a 'game'...what chance does that give LL in the rest of the world?

Yes, I think so.

As long as they have a monopoly on The servers, On the Log in route and on the money supply ...

It will always be seen as a game by "normal" people.

It will also be seen as liable for what goes on in it.

You're mixing apples and oranges.

Google doesn't filter on specific words, at least not in this sense.

Google uses heuristics to sort web sites into some sort of relevance priority. They use information such as the number of other web sites pointing to a given web site as input to that calculation. This creates an opportunity for people to game the system, by creating bogus web sites that point to the one whose rating they want to increase, or by adding words in hidden text to increase the number of hits.

Google filters those sorts of activities, in order to keep their results valid. An equivalent action for Linden would be to sort all searches based on the first alphabetic character, ignoring the special characters people put in front to make their item appear first. The, after people start putting "a" and "aa" at the front of their place names or ads, to filter those words out from the sort. And so on.

Simply prohibiting words from being used is an altogether different story.

When Playboy arrive in June I wonder if they'll have problems with their wares.

wonder if that will drive a need to get age verification ready in time.

I wouldn't have thought so, my credit card is good enough age verification for Playboy

Banning words in the classifieds is pointless and will not change people's behaviour so I can only conclude that LL's actions are only a PR stunt so they can announce to German TV that they have banned ageplay by banning a word or two.

If I wanted to open up a casino for lolitas I would simply called it Loleeta Kasino.

and since that is a code word for pedophiles. if you click on a few of those profiles you find out things,like what goes on in a corner of Nemo sim. Part of this upcoming age verification scheme is media generated as outside of SL probably 99% of the populace is against child porn, virtual or otherwise. So it is easy for it to be sensationalized. One of the arguments for virtual child porn is there are no "victims" which know as shown is just not true. Who are the victims then? Well the hopefully >80% of the grid who do not take part in this virtual child porn, who will have to open themselves up to spam and id theft by this ID scheme from Integrety to continue with their SLs. This slippery slope argument is in effect efery one in SL is climbing a mountain, and dragging the pedophiles up on a line. Now they fall off. do we cut the line and let them fall to their doom, or let them drag everyone down the slippery slope with them.

I think INSIDE of SL 99% of the populace is against child porn also. The question is not whether to shut down abuse, but how, in a world where there are other values at work too. Like not introducing thought crimes, a concept that can be applied to almost EVERYTHING, a la McCarthyism and totalitarian ideologies that have certifiably killed tens of millions in their day.

Methinks the best way is to keep these people out of sight, as is already being done, and allow law-enforcement personnel to do in SL what they are already doing in other parts of the Internet - posing as "children" and letting the predatory individuals hang themselves.

I suspect pedophilia is a congenital or compulsive-obsessive defect - I mean, would YOU choose that voluntarily, with all the other sexual choices out there at a click of the mouse? - and if so, the people who find themselves saddled with it should seek therapy. In the meantime, each time they jack off over a stream of pixels on their computer screen is one time when they won't be tempted to go find a RL child.

And hey, support law enforcement, certainly in this case.

1984 ftw,

lolita, ageplay, child AV = ++ungood

Moral judgment, mainstream opinion, sheeple = ++good

Soon we'll be able to distill the search to only a couple of terms. Think of the bandwidth that will be saved.

King Phillip with be supper happy, oops... I mean feel ++good .

Age verification and ageplay are completely separate. The German fiasco was two people *over* 18; age verification would not have stopped them.

I personally think "lori goth" is the best alternate search term, as "l" and "r" sounds and allophones in Japanese (sounds heard as having the same meaning)

Kaw-seen-oes and Eij-plei are going to be all over the search listings soon!

Sorry, just had to add that.