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Cannot add the word Loli to classified ad?

Atashi Yue
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05-14-2007 21:40
Anyone else happen to notice this?

FYI, the definition of loli:

1: A Loli is a girl based from anime/mangas.

2: A loli is a lolita. From the novel or the two movies where a young teen girl seduces an older man.

3: A loli is a fantasy emulation of a girl while a child av is as exact an emulation of a real life child that can be done.

4: A precocious child:
pre'co'cious adjective
1. unusually advanced or mature in development, esp. mental development: a precocious child.
2. prematurely developed, as the mind, faculties, etc.
3. of or pertaining to premature development.

4: Loli is a multi-thing, loli can mean lolita as in little girls, or the style of dress currently popular in japan called EGL or elegant gothic lolita.

Via a friend of mine.

So why remove that in the classifieds?
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05-14-2007 21:42
For the same reason casinos now advertise as kasinos...
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05-14-2007 21:44
From: Kenn Nilsson
For the same reason casinos now advertise as kasinos...


Loli is illegal somewhere?
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05-14-2007 21:49
From: Atashi Yue

So why remove that in the classifieds?

See also threads on ageplay, etc.

Heck, just shorten it to lol or something, and it'll be fine.

I wonder how many words will be left to advertise with once LL gets done removing every possible abbreviation or modification of their forbidden words.

Lindens, you DO realize that you can outlaw gambling and casino advertising, but plenty can be found if you search for gaming or gamble? And I think everyone knows to search for kasinos now. And with all these Europeans, you darn well better get out your translators to ban every possible word that can be used in a multitude of languages.
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05-14-2007 21:53
Search loli.

Good grief.
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05-14-2007 21:59
Is there a list of forbidden terms in the viewer source code?
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Atashi Yue
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05-14-2007 22:04
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
Is there a list of forbidden terms in the viewer source code?



No idea Suezanne :(
Flavian Molinari
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05-14-2007 22:38
Does this mean I won't be able to advertise my new line of EroGuro children's clothing?
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Atashi Yue
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05-14-2007 22:41
From: Flavian Molinari
Does this mean I won't be able to advertise my new line of EroGuro children's clothing?


The word "children" is still allowed. :P
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05-14-2007 23:30
From: Atashi Yue


...

2: A loli is a lolita. From the novel or the two movies where a young teen girl seduces an older man.

...

So why remove that in the classifieds?


That movie reference should be all the reason you need to look for. The female lead's character is supposed to be 12 iirc, the male lead in his thirties. You do the math, and consider the recent news reports on SL.
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05-15-2007 00:17
From: Warda Kawabata
That movie reference should be all the reason you need to look for. The female lead's character is supposed to be 12 iirc, the male lead in his thirties. You do the math, and consider the recent news reports on SL.


And that av is what age?????
Usagi Musashi
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05-15-2007 00:28
From: Atashi Yue
And that av is what age?????


What they are trying to do is limit the ways people are abusing this search.

From: Warda Kawabata

That movie reference should be all the reason you need to look for. The female lead's character is supposed to be 12 iirc, the male lead in his thirties. You do the math, and consider the recent news reports on SL.


??????????
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05-15-2007 01:11
From: Usagi Musashi
What they are trying to do is limit the ways people are abusing this search.


No one abuses a search engine. Take Google, most likely the largest search engine world wide. I don't see them banning or filtering any words (only a few URLs, and only in the German and French Google version).
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05-15-2007 01:16
From: Aleister Montgomery
No one abuses a search engine. Take Google, most likely the largest search engine world wide. I don't see them banning or filtering any words (only a few URLs, and only in the German and French Google version).


And xenu, because scientology got to them and forced delisting of xenu.net in some areas; noto sure which ones (if any) still have this restriction.

Hmm.. maybe we need to stage some Gorean Nazi Scientology Ageplay and invite the German media... they'd love it! But I have no idea how you actually combine all those things, and Gor probably isn't actually illegal.
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05-15-2007 01:25
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
And xenu, because scientology got to them and forced delisting of xenu.net in some areas; noto sure which ones (if any) still have this restriction.

Hmm.. maybe we need to stage some Gorean Nazi Scientology Ageplay and invite the German media... they'd love it! But I have no idea how you actually combine all those things, and Gor probably isn't actually illegal.



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05-15-2007 02:12
From: Aleister Montgomery
No one abuses a search engine. Take Google, most likely the largest search engine world wide. I don't see them banning or filtering any words (only a few URLs, and only in the German and French Google version).



Oh Really?????not...............seems like they are and LLABS has. We are taking about Sl here.........
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05-15-2007 02:58
From: Usagi Musashi
Oh Really?????not...............seems like they are and LLABS has. We are taking about Sl here.........


What if Loli de' Concini (rents summer residences in Italy) decides to set up an SL presence? Or professional translator Ingrid Frick Loli? What if Sompex decides to offer SL versions of their furniture, like their Suspended Lamp Loli Jo-2? What about an event featuring the classical guitar music of Philippe Loli? Or a gallery featuring the drawings of medieval artist Lorenzo Loli? Even the word "Lolita"... I can't see why anyone would be upset about a clothing shop offering Gothic Lolita Fashions for adults.

There are no "bad" words. An obscene english word could probably mean "microwave oven" in Malaysia. I can, to some degree, understand that LL decides to remove certain advertisements on a case-by-case basis. But banning certain harmless words is not only ridiculous but also highly unprofessional as a business practice.
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05-15-2007 04:10
From: Warda Kawabata
That movie reference should be all the reason you need to look for. The female lead's character is supposed to be 12 iirc, the male lead in his thirties. You do the math, and consider the recent news reports on SL.
I read that book when I was about 13. Picked it up quite legally at my local bookstore. I believe Kubrick's film is rated 15 in the UK, and unrated in the US (I might be wrong about that). However, if I verify that I am over eighteen years old in SL, I will still not be able to advertise products or events with the word Lolita in their name. :rolleyes:
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05-15-2007 05:13
From: Aleister Montgomery
What if Loli de' Concini (rents summer residences in Italy) decides to set up an SL presence? Or professional translator Ingrid Frick Loli? What if Sompex decides to offer SL versions of their furniture, like their Suspended Lamp Loli Jo-2? What about an event featuring the classical guitar music of Philippe Loli? Or a gallery featuring the drawings of medieval artist Lorenzo Loli? Even the word "Lolita"... I can't see why anyone would be upset about a clothing shop offering Gothic Lolita Fashions for adults.

There are no "bad" words. An obscene english word could probably mean "microwave oven" in Malaysia. I can, to some degree, understand that LL decides to remove certain advertisements on a case-by-case basis. But banning certain harmless words is not only ridiculous but also highly unprofessional as a business practice.



But in today's world where a man is ruined because he used the word "niggardly" http://www.adversity.net/special/niggardly.htm it is the only way they can protect themselves. Not saying it is right, but better self censorship than speech codes and hate laws passed by the government.
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05-15-2007 05:18
From: Warda Kawabata
That movie reference should be all the reason you need to look for. The female lead's character is supposed to be 12 iirc, the male lead in his thirties. You do the math, and consider the recent news reports on SL.


I agree. We should start a book burning campaign while were at it.
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05-15-2007 05:25
I think its interesting that people dont see distinctions in a lot of these threads.

In this case the "But this is Illegal IRL too - why isnt that banned?"

I think ill try to explain

OKAY -

On Sexual Ageplay -
The Virtual images on a computer os images resembling children used in sexual situations are illegal in those countries.

They arent making it illegal becuase Sexual Ageplay is illegal necessarily in those countries - In fact someone made it pretty clear the age of Consent in germany may be as low as 14, and definitely is not higher than 16.

But the virtual sexual ageplay as its defined in SL is illegal. Becuase what is actually taking place in Second Life is illegal in those countries

On Slavery -
Virtual Slavery and Images of Virtual Slavery are legal

Its actual slavery thats not legal.

On Prostitution-
Virtual Prostitution isnt even considered Prostitution in most countries - Becuase Virtual Sex isnt considered Sex.

Actual Prostitution is legal in many countires - But not the US.

On Beastiality-
Virtual Images of sex between Humans and animals are not illegal in any country im aware of.

Actual Beastiality is illegal in many countires



For those able to follow this post and still want to make these inane comparisions - Im telling you you are intentionally making false comparisons.


Be upset LL is knuckling under to another countires laws , sure , cool.
Be annoyed about it not being a real victim. Okay I can see a point.

However,
Making this "But speeding is illegal IRL why can I speed in SL" its a STUPID argument. Virtual Speeding isnt illegal anywhere. Virtual Sex with Virtual children IS.
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05-15-2007 05:27
From: Flavian Molinari
I agree. We should start a book burning campaign while were at it.
/makes a donation...
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05-15-2007 05:48
From: Walker Moore
/makes a donation...

Why is she trying to strangle him?
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05-15-2007 05:57
From: Brenda Connolly
Why is she trying to strangle him?
he's a german ageplayer..and her name is Vryll? :p
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05-15-2007 05:59
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Why is she trying to strangle him?


She caught him playing SL... and now she thinks he likes porn online too much
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