New Infohubs!

So looking around at my map, I see several new infohubs have been activated. The new ones I saw were at...

Boardroom (Sansara)
Castle Valeria (Nautilus & Corsica)
Degrand (Corsica)
Helfell (Gaeta)
Hyannisport (Gaeta)
Moose Beach (Sansara, Bay City area)
Zebrasil (Korean Continent)

and the not yet used "Safe Hub" for Ursula

Barbarossa (Nautilus, Nautilus City and Blake Sea area) and Hau Koda (Sansara, Bay City area) are also s'posed to become 'em.

Anyone else spot any new ones I mighta missed? Any mentors an stuff been visiting these new spots?

I had noticed that Castle Valeria had become an Infohub recently, as I saw a cluster of dots there and went to peek.

Castle Valeria is an exotic Infohub.
Disney on the outside. BDSM stuff in the basement.

I wonder why infohubs aren't all on Linden Highways - it would make sense if they were.

So the long-term plan for the mainland is to turn it into a unsupervised free account chatroom with avatars. A place where all of the negative attention seekers can gather en masse at 'no-info' hubs. I see a ten percent increase in abuse reports coming our way.

I do not see how that is going to make premium accounts want to stay premium and buy into the mainland. But it is a good way to get folks to buy into private islands.

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Looking at it differently, it seems to me that the more InfoHubs to choose among, the more spread-out the ne'er-do-wells. I don't think an InfoHub actually *creates* basement-dwellers, but rather it merely attracts them. Perhaps spreading them out will even reduce their total annoyance value, on the premise that it takes a critical mass of lameness for newbie-gesture-spamming to be a viable spectator sport.

(On the other hand, the G-Team pipeline had better be ready for a flood anyway, once the existing Mainland is officially sub-Adult and the prudes run rampant with ARs. And if they don't soon communicate more effectively about this impending change, a lot of surprised landowners may well be driven to some very different AR-able behaviors.)

Bingo.

Hmm, we're really close to Castle Valeria.

Exactly this. Can't say it better, so I'll just repeat it. Folks hang out at infohubs. Its the nature of humans to do that. Many (but by no means all) of those who might congregate are the SL equivalent of "Jay and Silent Bob" hanging out in front of the Kwik Stop. They have no place better to go, they're easily bored, and they don't really want to apply themselves.

And it's a trade off, in a way. Things have been calmer at Nova Albion, so I hear. Part of that is because the folks who'd be landing there are landing in Moose Beach or elsewhere. Meanwhile, it means there a lot more places where new people are landing, unsupervised,and getting frustrated because they don't know what to do or how to do it.

Wow. This is a surprise. Last I heard, LL had frozen expansion of their InfoHubs.

This is going to be a lot of new InfoNodes for NCI to buy/rent land near and build out. I'm just glad we are already up and running adjacent to Helfell and in Bay City (though not adjacent to Moose Beach).

I guess I better get busy. If anyone has land they would be interested in donating/selling/leasing/etc. to NCI that is adjacent to ( or within close line-of-sight of) any of the new InfoHubs, please contact me either in world, via this thread, or via email at [email]j.carl.henderson@gmail.com[/email].

We could also use tier donors, too, to help cover new land acquisitions. So if you have an extra 512 left over, contact me for an invitation to NCI Land Holdings as a Tier Donor.

BTW--NCI InfoNodes are "mini-NCIs" with information, freebies, landmarks, maps, and schedules, that provide help and information to new residents where they first rez, when they first rez. We currently manages sixteen NCI InfoNodes, located near or adjacent to Linden InfoHubs (or other areas popular with new residents).

I knew there were moves on Hau Koda (to be hubbed after the May anniversary events) and Barbarossa, and that Helfell and Hyannisport were going to be kicked back into duty. I had felt that Castle Valeria, Degrand, Moose Beach and Zebrasil would make good hubs (good infrastructure and area, etc.).

Boardroom seems almost like "well, we need one more," as it sure doesn't seem well suited (I should add that its the same layout as LL's "PR Island" where the adult continent talks are happening)

The only one where an NCI node would seem possible would be Moose Beach, just over in Bay City - Moosehead. Not sure if there's much available there (and at a sensible price) at the moment, though. Boardman border's SLs rental sims; Castle Valeria, Degrand, and Zebrasil are all islands.

There is an NCI member we _may_ be able to lease land near Hyannisport from. I didn't realize that most of the rest were islands. I guess I will need to check on the closest adjacent mainland.

This may be another "dumb guy" question, but I haven't had one in a while so I'm due. If I remember correctly, Infohubs are where new residents are decanted into the main grid after they've done whatever orientation that now exists. When they make this transition are they given any choice as to where they go or is it randomly assigned?

You've had a look at Ursula?

I'm kinda leery about taking my av there. Maybe if I put on my Mystical Jello Cubes disguise.

If you go through LL's Help Island system, then when you want to leave HI, you click on a sign to get a landmark to the mainland. That LM will lead you to either an InfoHub or a Welcome Area. Where you are assigned is random. If a newbie were to want a choice of locations, he or she could click the sign multiple times for different LMs--but of course a real newbie would have no idea there was any point in doing so.

If you join SL via one of the Community Gateways, you do not get sent to a InfoHub when you leave.

Sadly most of the LL InfoHubs don't have much information around them.

As they should have for the obvious reasons that have not been addressed.

Compounding the issues by effectively making it a grid-wide issue is the dumbest 'solution' I have ever heard of.

Blue Linden made the same clueless statement Qie made regarding this 'plan' to spread the giefers out so it's no longer a concentrated issue. Don't address the problem - water it down until it reaches critical mass - by then noone will remember you endorsed such bad planning. Genius.

Linden Lab needs to hire someone with professional community planning skills (not a real estate agent).

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Only the safe hub, which lies outside of Ursula proper, and is publicly accessible. This is why I voiced a question about kid avvies being seen in Ursula at the brown bag.

I'm a bit concerned about the Moose Beach IH. Looking at it, the sim is already flooded to the max with its 20 avatar limit. When I brought it up I was reminded that it was an Open Space sim. Now, come the new Homestead sim arrangements won't this drop to 10 avatars? Not a good idea for an infohub. (T_T)

Meh... Just show up nakie. You'll fit right in. =^-^=

...but its not a hometsead, from the look at the prim count. I did ask about this at Blondin's OH today, and he isnt sure why its so low.

Carl, you may find some common cause in Prok's blog comment: https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/dpw/blog/2009/04/09/latest-dpw-projects#comment-761171; Blondin's subsequent invitation to contact him in-world on the subject of InfoHubs might be of interest (although I've not done so myself). I also think this topic would be fair to raise in Jack's office hour.
Where did Blue make this statement? (I know where my clueless statement was made. ) I'm just trying to understand how much or little was communicated to residents about all this, and when. (For example, do we know what if anything this has to do with Big Spaceship specifically, or the NUE initiative in general?)

and, should they stabilize other modes of transportation, railway infohubs. bays as well.

http://slrecord.typepad.com/the_second_life_record/2008/02/handymen-on-the.html

I was around when Infohubs were developed with the land owners in the sim. Now they are just placed anywhere as a publicity tool for linden Lab - benefitting Linden Lab only with no regard for the tier payers in the sim.

I have no idea what happeded to Big Spaceship (they were hired to re-create the mainland). I sent them a letter about my mainland concerns. They responded that they were aware of the Infohub issue and had included it in their 'plan'. And then they were never heard from again. And now we are back to Blue's plan of paving over paradise and putting in parking lots for shiftless loiterers. Lovely.

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Heh, this is pretty ironic coming from you, given your ongoing PR issues in the Bear neighborhood: You put up billboards you put up telling other people who to live their second life around a building whose doorway is chiefly comprised of a 100m pair of what are easily the worst set of legs Agni has ever seen. So eyebleeding is it that I'm sure the scrim exists primarily to keep landing tourists from seeing that and logging out, never to return...

My Real Estate crack was about the LL CEO that just resigned. He was the guy that orchestrated the open sim bait-and-switch. Keep up. Also My property is down the road, around a corner and across a bridge from a infohub - If anyone can see my property 113 meters away - please post your computer specs here - I need to upgrade.

But this is the standard operational procedure of mainland abusers - alting and personal attacks. The point is that I really do hope that Linden Lab has a plan to make these places work and not infect the mainland with more nuisance plots just to pretend they have as many users as WOW.

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All the ones placed recently are on full sim, Linden-owned parcels. Many are actually away from mainland as a whole, or were intended for some time. In some areas, the tier payers were wanting those hubs.



I think that was part of their task, no? I believe they were working on "first hour" stuff, as are some others.