Is anyone happy, excited optimistic about voice coming?

CYBERSEX is all that will increase from this. I say boo to boobs, unless in RL

Yes, Pathfinder Linden and the folks at Vivox.

I don't want voice in SL.
Now I have privacy, typing whatever I want into my PC.
If the people in my house would hear all that I am saying...
I would have a lot of explaining to do.
And of course using SL in the middle of the night when the others are sleeping will no longer be possible.



Forget about that: It requires synchronization.
If your voice arrives 0.5 seconds later than the music SL users who are used to waiting a minute after entering a store to allow it to rez will not call it "laggy". They will just think it sounds awful...

umm Barri? .. how many people do you think would actually sit at their keyboards and say into a microphone the equal of what they're typing??

Cybersex excels on the fantasy ..... real speech will destroy it IMHO.

and if you took the time to understand what I was saying, you might not jump to conclusions...

I stated I did not understand why they were upset when it is not something we are being forced to use.... therefore you HAVE the CHOICE as to use it or not... no reason to be upset.

To me being upset about his is equal to someone being upset cuz SL has the ability to stream music thus having live performers and live DJ's and live anything else anyone can think of...

So I am not saying I do not understand being upset, just doesn't make sense to me to be upset about the ability to use voice being implemented

And yes I too dislike being ignored and I am neither not reading it or have poor reading comprehension.

I simple do not understand the mindset it takes to get upset over something such as this.

why would it not be possible?
we are not being forced to use voice, it is going to be an option....

typing and using the pc while others are sleeping in the middle of the night is still going to be possible

People, people. Why are all the furries and trannies so freaked? Use that imagination of yours. C'mon! If someone complains that you (as a baby bunny) are not speaking, just tell them you can only type, no vocal cords. I mean, really, do bunnies make a noise in RL? And trannies will get along famously with this. We have plenty of trannies and transvestites walking the streets. And what about women with deep voices like Whoopi Goldberg and Kathleen Turner? Will they be ostracized? There is a wide range of female voices out there. Male voices can get pretty high, too. Actually, I think I'd try a female AV now, just to see if I can pass with my baritone twisted into a breathy alto.

I don't see voice being the dominate communication method in SL or that using other methods will turn you into a leper. Look at how people communicate in RL offices. We have at least four options now.

-- voice, face to face
-- voicemail
-- email
-- IMs

In my small office of 25 people, IMs and email are the most popular methods. Then face to face. No one uses voicemail anymore. Few people even bother to walk to each others' cubes to discuss minor points. IMs give you quick responses and plenty of privacy. Email is wonderfully passive aggressive. The only use for voice in the office is in meetings.

In RL, kids enjoy text messaging and talking. I email my sibs who live in different states, every day, often multiple times. I rarely call them.

There are many intolerant posts here, which I find amusing. God forbid: karaoke in SL! We have all kinds of horrid, disgusting sex play going on in SL, but if someone sings “Feelings” out of tune, you are ready to torch them.

Quit running around like the sky is falling. You are not powerless to make it work right or remove it. Begin by sending your comments directly to LL. Do I need to paste the addresses in here for you? Then send another one. And another. And get your furry friends to quit having furry SL sex and write to Philip and Zee.

Jeez. The more I think about it, all these whiny voices would be a huge turn off if I had to actually listen to them, so maybe I’ll just keep all your voices muted while I’m in SL.

I talk to whom I choose in Skype for free anyhow. I think LL needs to take responsibility and fix the long existing underlying issues first. Thank you LL for more crap overloading and bogging the game down. Your competence is underwhelming.

I welcome voice chat as Im lazy and it will save typing. I wont use it all the time, but its nice to have the option for when I dont want to type.
I already use windows messenger for talking while in SL.

I dont expect most people will use it as not everyone has a headset or wants to let everyone hear their voice.

Because not many people will use it, I dont expect there to be much peer pressure making people use it except perhaps for escorts (where I expect the escort will be expected to use it and the client won't use it)

I have an impressive dragon av and doing the voice will be fun for when I wear it.

Some people were implying this would lead to less bizzare forms being used in SL, but I am going to have to buy a Dalek av once voice chat arrives.

I think for businesses and the business minded in SL it will be an asset to communicate quickly with clients/customers. However, I am not interested in using voice chat in any other circumstances i.e. RP etc. I do hope that on land that has enabled voice that people will still have the option to not use it just as it is with the music and video options we currently have - I am not sure how one would signify that they are not using the option...I am also not sure that my brain would not explode from the constant barrage of chatter in congested areas. Nor am I particurlarily excited at the posibility that my neighbors can now add yet another dimension to their "lovemaking" sessions...

I think its a great business option and is certainly viable - but for the regular every day player who just wants to "play" not so much...

I was thinking that it might be fun to do voice chat, but after reading this forum, I may not after all. My voice may result in attracting even more unwanted sexual advances / stalking.

Not interested at all. I hope this resulting in a terrible failure or a great success so LL can leave this and give attention to more important stuffs.

It'll be interesting to see how they can actually make this work:

Either it works the same way sound works now (based on the camera position rather than your avie's position) in which case you would cam close to the instructor so their voice is the loudest, drowning out all the background chatter. Ideal, except it leaves the door wide open to cam over to people and eavesdrop on their voice conversation (not at all the same as with chat, because that needs a 20m and less distance).

However, LL already stated that the server will do the spatial mixing, so it'll be based on where your avie is relative to the speaker, or in other words, the instructor's voice will be at the lowest volume, and all the other people in the class will have a louder voice with all the resulting problems that come with it.

That's obviously leaving out the fact that there is and always has been a far superior solution which is for the instructor to use a music stream to talk to the class. No one can obscure the sound that way and their voice is at equal - loud - volume for everyone on the parcel and if they publish the stream addie, you won't even miss a word when either you or the instructor get disconeccted for any reason.

I'll agree with all the "ooooh" and "aaaaah" and "oooo! shiny!", but that doesn't mean it's actually an improvement over the existing alternatives.

OK, here's a question. Let's say I am in a public area, like a nice beach resort. The land owner has not disabled voice chat. I don't choose to use voice chat, and I disable that for myself (IF I can, which is not at all clear yet). If some yahoo who is in love with the sound of his own RL voice comes up next to me and starts shouting obscenities at everyone. He's within chat range, so I have to assume it will be no different than if someone walked up to me and started typing obscenities. Until I mute him, I'll get his chatter in my chat window. So if he's talking into a headset, will I hear him, if I had sound on so I could hear the waves and the birds singing? Can I mute him? How would I know who to mute? Or will my only escape from his tirade by deafening myself completely and turning off my sound, or by leaving the area?

Will we even HAVE a choice about hearing his audio, if the sound is on for ambient sounds?

If I can actually DISABLE any voice functions, so that I do NOT hear him, regardless of who he is, and so I do NOT have to see the icons that voice-enabled folk see to warn them that I choose not to use voice, then fine. He can shout himself hoarse, and I'll ignore him and listen to the waves and the birds.

However, what I do NOT want to see, and what I am virtually certain will be the case, is that anywhere that the land owner has not intentionally disabled Voice as an option, I'll be stuck seeing an additional "no voice" icon over my head and that of all my non-speaking friends, and that I'll have to listen to any voice-enabled person that I haven't explicitly muted, or live in complete silence by muting all sound, including the waves and the birds.

What I REALLY dread is that I may be stuck seeing that "no voice" icon over my head, and those of my non-speaking friends, even if I am on a parcel where voice is DISABLED for EVERYONE. That would truly suck, and would really make SL much less pleasant for me.

Voice should be an option that only exists for you if you turn it on for yourself. If I don't want to listen to your music stream on your parcel, I can choose not to listen to streamed music, and I won't even be aware of a parcel has a music stream or not. I normally leave streaming music off, unless I am attempting to hear what is playing in a club. Voice chat should work the same way. If I disable that option for myself, I should not have any awareness at all that voice is being used in my vacinity, other than possibly seeing that someone's mouth is flapping for no apparent reason.

If I use a laptop that has a built in microphone, will SL auto-detect that and assume that I am "voice enabled"? Can I tell it NO?

But... it's traditional.

Thanks for pointing yourself out so people can add you to their ban lists. Your intolerance isn't amusing.

There have been literally hundereds of posts explaining why people are upset.

I did read you post and understood it, I took exception to the use of "cant understand" used by you and others, I made it clear, I beleive, it wasnt just you.

Its not up to me who gets upset over what - I literally take people on their word that its worth getting upset over. To do less an attempt to deny them their right to have their own emotional responses.

I'm not looking forward to it at all. The implementation (Opt-out instead of Opt-in as Philip originally wanted) and the social implications are going to severely impact SL. EVERY woman in SL will be branded a man if they don't use voicechat.

THe good news is that it is still being implemented and the Beta test has not yet begun. So we have a chance to fix things.

The biggest source of problems will be the fact that people need to Opt-out instead of Opt-in. THis is huge, making those that choose not to use voice be branded with a mark showing they are not participating, rather than allowing people to indicate that they are participating.

What we should do is join in the beta and make our voices heard. We won't be able to stop LL from implementing Voice in SL. But we can try to steer HOW they implement it. Let's let them know we want an Opt-IN system, not an Opt-OUT!

I am optimistic that sl residents are creating a new literary form, i don't want to hear my friends voices, I hate all the vocal gestures too, and I have a speech impediment, like someone said earlier, i would phone somebody if i wanted to talk to the,m, for me sl is an aesthetic experience and I also have a terrible singing voice that would jeopardise any beauty!!

And if anyone doubts my womanhood I will give them the phone number of my gynaecologist and they can talk to him instead of me!!!

While Voice is nice it creates two problems.. burden of users.. which can be a range from quality to annoyance of idiots. Secondly there seems to be no real point to having this if range cannot be perfected. I don't want to hear other conversations a mile away.

I love this response XD

What I am hoping for, if LL screws those of us who choose not to use voice in this way, is that someone reputable out there will take the open source code and release a modified viewer that will remove all the voice-enabled crap and allow us to enjoy our ambient sounds in peace.

I guess the real question that needs to be addressed in the form of a poll is how many just dont want it.. how many would like it there but want to be able to disable or enable.. and how many are soo excited.

I for one, am excited about using voice in second life. Speaking with my close friends and relatives, attending lectures and classes, seeing the business aplications, going to poetry readings, etc.

Of course it will be used for griefing. And just like any of the other million and one ways to grief people, those who use it as such will be ejected and banned.

I understand the concern from people who roleplay however, judging by the sheer amount of people I see who are expressing the same concerns, i do not think you will be alone in your choice to not use voice. Anyone with manners will include you. And anyone without manners.... well... why would you want to talk with them in the first place?

perhaps i am too optomistic