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Jauani Wu
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02-25-2006 01:50
I'm just curious if we can opt out from this bonus resmod service package? I will happily pay extra service fees to LL to be above resmodding. this could be an awesome cash cow.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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02-25-2006 02:18
One can opt out of these forum resmods by not going to forums.secondlife.com. Not using the forums is a perfectly equitable solution to this problem for those who don't want to abide by the terms of service, which require adherence to Linden established policies whenever using any part of the service.
One can drastically reduce the probability of having any trouble or conflict with both the Linden employee moderators or the Linden company appointed volunteer moderators by reading the entire Community Standards and the Forum Guidelines and bringing to bear the full power of one's intellect to the task of trying to figure out what the intent of these documents is and abiding by the spirit of these . A powerful clue is given in the Community Standards statement of goals: "The goals of the Community Standards are simple: treat each other with respect and without harassment, adhere to local standards as indicated by simulator ratings" and in the Forum Guidelines: " The purpose of the Second Life Forums is to promote discussion and education about Second Life". If one keeps these ideas in mind and tries to abide by them instead of constantly acting like a teenager rebelling against parents and society when one posts one will be unlikely to have any conflict with the moderators. Those who find this too constraining can use the forums at sluniverse.com, the #secondlife IRC chat, which are easily accessible at sluniverse.com or by using any of a number of free IRC clients such as mIRC, or any of the other myriad of communication schemes readily available to anyone with internet access. _____________________
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Siggy Romulus
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02-25-2006 03:09
who the fuck died and made you god anyways?
Or at least holier than. Or just preening yourself for phase 3? (whole post is just a glorified STFU anyways - and I'm a fan of berevity) _____________________
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
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02-25-2006 04:21
For a moment there I had to go look to see if they'd actually done the inconceivable and made her a resmod. But no, it's just our lil Linden wannabe here to preach again.
![]() And there was me thinking you couldnt possibly get any more sanctimonious. I guess I misjudged you. Hint: even LL realise that preachy self important nanny cops are exactly the kind of people they really don't want doing this kinda job and that they're way more fucking annoying than the most coarse and disruptive of the rest of the people on these forums put together. Get over yourself. _____________________
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Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
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02-25-2006 04:52
Get over yourself. I apply this equally to all the above posters. Hint: LL thinks you all suck. So ![]() _____________________
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
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02-25-2006 04:58
I apply this equally to all the above posters. Hint: LL thinks you all suck. So ![]() yah, prolly so. but 3 out of the first 4 posters in this thread aren't desperately itching to lord it over the rest in an 'official' capacity. but fortunately she's extremely transparent, and it's her own words and actions that ensure she'll never get the job, not anything any of us might say about her. Fingers crossed that I'm right, anyway, because I really can't imagine anyone worse suited for the role. _____________________
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Zapoteth Zaius
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02-25-2006 05:11
They don't hate me! Everyone loooooves me!
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
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02-25-2006 05:12
Ok. I can think of ONE person worse suited to the role.
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Introvert Petunia
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02-25-2006 05:12
Hint: even LL realise that preachy self important nanny cops are exactly the kind of people they really don't want doing this kinda job |
Zapoteth Zaius
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02-25-2006 05:16
Ok. I can think of ONE person worse suited to the role. /me waves to Zap. ![]() ![]() I'm not bothered, they seem to have somethng against me anyway ![]() I wanna be in ALL the volenteer groups tho, I need the set ![]() _____________________
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
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02-25-2006 05:18
I doubt that could be true; can you explain Jeska otherwise? Ouch! Personally I don't think Jeska did a bad job on her own. Some of her actions were questionable, mebbe, but she kept her reasons short and sweet and didn't preach. Besides, the main difference is that it's her job, as opposed to some short lived quest for power or to see how far she can climb up the Lindens collective asses ![]() And I won't even hold it against her when she suspends me this weekend ![]() /me waves to Jeska _____________________
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
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02-25-2006 05:35
Suzeanne, The forum resmods can go **** themselves before I listen to them as any more authority than resident joe blow.
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Starax Statosky
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02-25-2006 05:49
I doubt that could be true; can you explain Jeska otherwise? Well I think this is why we have ResMod's now. Jeska was going crazy having to read our threads and so they came up with the idea of ResMods to save her from having to visit the ayslum for a short holiday. I also sensed she was becoming a little annoyed. But christ, I'm going crazy and I'm only reading 2 percent of the threads. If I was given the job as moderator then it would take just two days before you'd see me running through the 'General' thread with an automatic rifle and a manic (but cute) smile upon my face. If I had my way, I'd remove moderation completely and let us just kill eachother. I don't need anybody to look after me. I'm not here to improve my reputation. If somebody comes at me with a gun then they can fucking shoot me. |
Marilyn Murphy
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02-25-2006 05:57
HIYA KRIS!! *big wave
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Siggy Romulus
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02-25-2006 05:59
I apply this equally to all the above posters. Hint: LL thinks you all suck. So ![]() Everyone sucks - it just comes down to who swallows ![]() _____________________
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Introvert Petunia
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02-25-2006 05:59
Well I think this is why we have ResMod's now. Jeska was going crazy having to read our threads and so they came up with the idea of ResMods to save her from having to visit the ayslum for a short holiday. I also sensed she was becoming a little annoyed. But christ, I'm going crazy and I'm only reading 2 percent of the threads. If I was given the job as moderator then it would take just two days before you'd see me running through the 'General' thread with an automatic rifle and a manic (but cute) smile upon my face. If I had my way, I'd remove moderation completely and let us just kill eachother. I don't need anybody to look after me. I'm not here to improve my reputation. If somebody comes at me with a gun then they can fucking shoot me. I know I would have lost my cool way before she did; to overstretch an analogy (cuz the coffee hasn't kicked in and I'm analogy challenged) it kinda reminds me of some troop sentiments in Vietnam or Cambodia: what the hell are we here for, what are we supposed to be doing, how can we tell if we've done right, when the hell is this going to end? |
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
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02-25-2006 06:05
I think the only time moderators have ever really been hinted at by me was here:
/130/6c/90062/1.html The funny thing is even a Linden passed it over without a second glance. And here I thought the comunity standards were upheld byt the Lindens.. |
Noh Rinkitink
Just some Nohbody
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02-25-2006 06:14
On a tangential note, considering there are plenty of alternate SL-related forums available, I admit to being a bit puzzled why those who don't like how the board is being run stick around on the board in question.
(For the sake of argument I'm assuming some variety of "to be pricks" is not the answer, even if I occasionally have doubts in that regard.) |
Starax Statosky
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02-25-2006 06:20
I find it somewhat amusing how those who are among the people vocally opposed to the resmod program say they only listen to LL, not RMs. As I understand things, RMs are appointed by LL for the specific purpose of helping LL with the forums. On a tangential note, considering there are plenty of alternate SL-related forums available, I admit to being a bit puzzled why those who don't like how the board is being run stick around on the board in question. (For the sake of argument I'm assuming some variety of "to be pricks" is not the answer, even if I occasionally have doubts in that regard.) Think - crackheads. |
Cory Edo
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02-25-2006 08:55
Man, everyone piled on Suzanne, but she was actually right. Seriously, are guns being pointed at peoples' heads to make y'all post here? Are there not at least 2 other boards and IRC where you can trip merrily along the primrose path without fear of the horrible ResMods?
And the people that are bitching the loudest must be doing OK with no suspensions, 'cause you're still posting here, so what the hell's the problem? Oh lawdy, a resmod popped in and told you to keep a thread on topic. They'll be coming for your children and your First Amendment rights next. Christ. So, essentially what Noh said, but more incredulous. Think - crackheads. This is the only explaination that makes sense to me. _____________________
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Cocoanut Cookie
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02-25-2006 09:49
If I had my way, I'd remove moderation completely and let us just kill eachother. I don't need anybody to look after me. I'm not here to improve my reputation. If somebody comes at me with a gun then they can fucking shoot me. 1. I agree. I've often thought they'd be much better off to have only two rules for the forums: (1) No outing of people's real life info (2) No explaining how exploits work And maybe there's something else that hasn't occured to me. 2. Suezanne's post actually assumes that those rules as articulated in the TOS/Guidelines are even meant, when they aren't. Jeska has bent over backwards trying to explain why they aren't. They exist only to be applied selectively to the people the Lindens want to apply them to, and the resmod program only serves to prop up that policy. If those rules actually meant anything at all, I would agree with Suezanne. 3. The resmod program is never going to work simply because there are too many people who refuse to recognize its authority, and will never recognize its authority. coco _____________________
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Starax Statosky
Unregistered User
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02-25-2006 10:01
1. I agree. I've often thought they'd be much better off to have only two rules for the forums: (1) No outing of people's real life info (2) No explaining how exploits work And maybe there's something else that hasn't occured to me. coco No rules!!! Allow 1st life info too. Hell, everybody who gets to know me knows that I have a small penis anyway. Anyone up for a webcam session!? |
Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
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02-25-2006 10:12
Man, everyone piled on Suzanne, but she was actually right. Seriously, are guns being pointed at peoples' heads to make y'all post here? Are there not at least 2 other boards and IRC where you can trip merrily along the primrose path without fear of the horrible ResMods? And the people that are bitching the loudest must be doing OK with no suspensions, 'cause you're still posting here, so what the hell's the problem? Oh lawdy, a resmod popped in and told you to keep a thread on topic. They'll be coming for your children and your First Amendment rights next. Christ. So, essentially what Noh said, but more incredulous. This is the only explaination that makes sense to me. Your absolutely right, no one is forcing me to post. Stupid me I thought it was a perk all this time. That was part of my subscription. Given the choice of a) put up with a corrupt government system or b) post my real thoughts to my blog and avoid losing my IW assets. I think I will .... Starax! you told me you set that camera up for "us" ![]() ![]() _____________________
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Jonquille Noir
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02-25-2006 12:18
Since you're such a big fan of rules and technicalities, can you show me where in the ToS I agreed to be ruled by any other customer?
Thanks! One can opt out of these forum resmods by not going to forums.secondlife.com. Not using the forums is a perfectly equitable solution to this problem for those who don't want to abide by the terms of service, which require adherence to Linden established policies whenever using any part of the service. One can drastically reduce the probability of having any trouble or conflict with both the Linden employee moderators or the Linden company appointed volunteer moderators by reading the entire Community Standards and the Forum Guidelines and bringing to bear the full power of one's intellect to the task of trying to figure out what the intent of these documents is and abiding by the spirit of these . A powerful clue is given in the Community Standards statement of goals: "The goals of the Community Standards are simple: treat each other with respect and without harassment, adhere to local standards as indicated by simulator ratings" and in the Forum Guidelines: " The purpose of the Second Life Forums is to promote discussion and education about Second Life". If one keeps these ideas in mind and tries to abide by them instead of constantly acting like a teenager rebelling against parents and society when one posts one will be unlikely to have any conflict with the moderators. Those who find this too constraining can use the forums at sluniverse.com, the #secondlife IRC chat, which are easily accessible at sluniverse.com or by using any of a number of free IRC clients such as mIRC, or any of the other myriad of communication schemes readily available to anyone with internet access. _____________________
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Travis Lambert
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02-25-2006 12:27
Well, likewise - I doubt I could be shown where in the TOS I agreed to have the Linden Hotline renamed to Linden Answers.
As much as Linden has tried to create a culture here where residents contribute to the direction of Second Life, at the end of the day it's their game, and they make the final decisions. It's irrelevant whether a new strategy Linden decides to take is in the TOS or not. We are all customers, our only true vote is with our wallet and our behavior. Not to say we can't complain - but Linden isn't contractually obligated to listen to one sylable either. _____________________
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