Gripes about ResMods

They do a horrible job. Get rid of them and use interns.. No player should have ANY control over another players posts.

Yes, I agree with you, Jonas. Please note that I am not saying anything at all about the current group of ResMods, my comments are to be taken as general. But by giving any resident *any* powers other than asking for Linden assistance, you are asking for corruption, which will eventually, and inevitably, happen.

We have already heard of one mentor who is alleged to be a griefer. That was inevitable too.

It is a simple enough lesson to learn, and I have never been able to understand why we remain so stubbornly unable to learn it, despite the abundant lessons of history. Give people power that is not controlled by transparency and scrutiny, and you are *inviting* corruption. And what is worse, if corruption is kept at bay, nevetheless it will be perceived by those who are powerless.

I have always felt the ResMod program was a bad idea. As coco said, if you are going to have forum moderation, have it done by people who have no vested interest in Second Life.

Care to explain this? Fact is if you were targeted on the forums directly you would want to see action against that person. Have you ever stopped to think that hey there may be a reason behind them having this program in the way it is. The forums are tied into the game community and as such actions here quite often reflect actions that need to be taken against the people in the game. Its harassment to a degree and i've seen this program done elsewhere before. It keeps people that blatantly openly attack people directly from being in world and frankly i dont want these people in world they are usually just miserable individuals that start this stuff up at a later date again and again.

Again the problem there is they need vested interest in second life to moderate. Otherwise what would be the point of moderating anything to do with SL? I will say that the res-mods are both a blessing and a curse they keep some people out that really shouldnt be in SL and quite possibly what you dont realize is if someone attacks the forums or does something to get banned from here mabye they should be banned from SL as well really. While these are forums they arnt a forum that isnt official and as such are quite often linked to the game as done with other games.

I've seen people banned from other games for official forum posts and i find it to be a decent policy as they are paying the linden's to already moderate in game quite often the same rules are applied to these official forums. The TOS and community standards apply here as well as in the game. I guess the gripe here is about the resident being moderators but i will run into one thing. I am a forum admin for a site and its PHP (same setup as SL's forums pretty much except i didnt bother paying for freaking VB cuz PHPBB2 is free).

I can tell you right now that if i name a moderator i can limit their powers. I can give them full access if i want but most of the time by default they are only allowed to clear up clutter and not ban people. I think the fears among resmods as i read into an understand it a bit more are based on the fact that your taking them as forum admin's who by the way are the only people that can ban someone unless the linden's are making everyone admins which i doubt cuz 1 person could delete everyone's account if that were the case and it would of likely happened already.

Sure. I thought the original post was about the moving/locking of forum posts about in-game griefing incidents. I was pointing out that it makes no sense to argue that only ResMods should be forbidden from moderating such posts.

I wasn't talking about misbehaving on the forums leading to banned forum and/or game accounts. I have no idea how the forum abuse reporting system works.

Just to clear up a few myths; we the ResMods do not filter anything. The LL moderators see the exact same set of AR's we do. The ResMod duty is to help the system scale. To deal with the minor infractions. Basicly the unlucky sod who has to get the mop up the messes.

It's a thankless job, and when you do get thanks, you get accused of censorship on the same decission. It really is a sucky job. People IM from time to time asking about decisions; which are best ignored; as no good deed goes unpunished.

That all said, it has it's own rewards, It draws me into threads i wouldn't otherwise read. The forums are kinda like a bonsai tree; the guidelines the goal for the tree; and the moderators prune the tree. I take pride in seeing the forum grow in a health way.

A while back I suggested a system that would increase accountability of ResMods, it would allow for a voting system of the resmods, with a built in comment system that would latch into the forums. It would keep statistics on individuals and use a point system to recommend action. Only problem: it would have to be writen from the ground up.
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It woudnt' increase the ResMod's power (though it could be used to monitor it if it were increased) but better manage it.

Have to agree with Strife here...

Just so you know... I was a ResMod, one of the first... for about a week. I quit, basically because it was more work than I'd anticipated and I didn't have the time. Anyway...

There's been a lot of negativity towards resmods, and some of it is justified... But it is a damned thankless task. You're tried, convicted and sentenced every time you make a decision, because there's no way you can please everyone.

We do need Resmods, but we need them to be people who are (at least seen to be) completely outside of the drama. I don't think this will ever happen, but it's a goal to strive for.


Oh wait... the forums have a goal? This must be a game...

No. We don't need resmods. Really we don't. We were fine before the resmods. We'll be fine if they ever leave.

And it is damned thankless task. Its an awful job. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't and there's a lot of people like me out there that just think the whole idea of it stinks.

So this begs the question: Why would anyone want to be a resmod.

And don't give me any of that crap about helping the community. You want to help the community -- go be an instructor or mentor or greeter.

This is just tossing power around. That's what the resmods get, that's what the resmods do. They apply the rules unfairly, unevenly and usually without any thought to what they are doing. The Resmods are a bad idea, they need to be disbanded.