So when is it time to AR a thread?

Well, I think all you guys ROCK!! I have read thru five pages here and had such a good chuckle over all your comments! Thanks for brightening my day, even if it is now 2 am for me lol!

Do I have an answer for the question, ummm, no, dont think so, but I havent AR'd a thread yet!

I'm going to AR this thread for dying!

It's not just when to AR that is important, how to write an AR is important. You need to tell us what is wrong with the thread. You need to be persuasive but not insulting. Insulting others in an AR will degrade your credibility but not that of the AR (while your argument will be shot, we will investigate for flaming). Just because a thread is ARed doesn't mean action will be taken. ARing a thread more then once will not increase it's chances of getting action, just annoy the mods and maybe lead to the reporter being banned.

*moves to resmod forum*

When a thread gets locked has more to do with when I read my email and when I'm reading the forums more then anything else. There are alot of thread I just never read; I don't have time, so I look for threads that are probably going to have problems and focus on them. You get a feel for where trouble will be, you don't find all trouble but you find some of it.

So you are saying that someone capable of making well argued posts can get a thread locked,

Regardless of their motivation?

You locked the goodbye Morwen Post, claiming a persuasive argument.

Id Love to know what the persuasive argument could be. There was no flaming, just well wishes. If the thread was in the wrong place it should have been moved.

Or are these forums so heartless someone struggling with health issues cant say goodbye when they Leave SL. She was an Active poster for a long time.

If it was her comments about the Virtual world and community feeling in Second Life falling away. Guess what? it has been. You've been here long enough to know that. Perhaps its unavoidable due to the growth of Second Life. But there is an entirely different flavor to SL now than a couple years ago. Some will like it better I'm sure, but its impossible to deny it.

I am really at a loss for how I feel about whatever person AR'd that thread. Their lack of compassion is disheartening.

If the argument was truly persuasive you should have included a snipet of it when you closed the thread so people would understand where you are coming from.

Of course the lock of her thread can be seen as a proof of her point that the SL community is losing its magic and wonder.

It occurs to me that perhaps Morwen requested the thread closed. Since its the only possible reason I can see to really close it, unless the comments had turned nasty. If so Strife should have said Morwen requested the thread closed after a certain amount of time.



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Anyway I was upset. Please don't turn Morwen's thread closing into a flame war. That wouldn't be fair to her.

There are nicer ways to get me to review my decision, you just have to ask.

The purpose of a persuasive argument in an AR is to recommend a course of action. Regardless of the existence of a recommendation we will check the reasons given in the AR.
A persuasive argument that is supported by what is going on in the thread will be given consideration. If it isn't supported then it isn't persuasive. The persuasive argument isn't necessary it just makes my job easier.

Yes I do lookout for ulterior motives, It would be silly not to. Some sizable percentage of ARs aren't actionable. Just because it's reported doesn't make it true. There are a good number of pure drama ARs. You can't trust what is in the AR, you have to look at the thread.

I really need to head to bed, I'll examine the thread when I wake up and see if it should be unlocked.

There are several more observations I have on ARs but I'm saving them for waking up (assuming I do). See everyone on the flip side.

Sorry I came off so mean

I was just shocked someone would AR that thread and somehow make sense doing it.

Strife ,

The question wasn't why you took action. It was why would another resident feel the need to AR a thread, especially a thread like that one. (unless of course it was Morwen)

a sad choice, and i wish Morwen well.

i don't understand why anyone would AR any thread or posting. i love my ignore button. my list is getting longer and longer, and i choose when i've had enough of someone. why can't one simply ignore someone instead of making a big 'close this thread' deal about it? really.

I have AR'd posts twice, both times by relative newcomers making "death threats". I guess I just felt in both cases that it was a good way to let them know that the forums are actually moderated so they could change styles before getting entrenched.

The Morwen thread was locked? Now that IS puzzling. Unless, as you say Colette, she requested it.

Well, just one small remark from my side... It wasn't me that requested the thread to be locked.

Anyway, thanks to all the nice words in the locked thread...

And having saying that, this thread might be AR'ed again.

Morwen.

We never knew each other outside the forums, but I always thought your posts were good. Even when you and I didn't agree.

I really do wish you well.

I have reviewed the thread and unlocked it. I can't speak to why who ever ARed that thread did.

I do see trends in ARs:
*People will AR posts in Closed threads
*People will AR a post only after there are 100 posts after it.
*People AR what they are emotionally involved with.
*People are forgiving, they won't AR abuse BUT they will complain about it as inconsistent moderation policy.

There seems to be some confusion here between "ARing a thread" and "Reporting a bad post".

I have on occasion Reported a bad post because (as the instructions say) it "Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts". I assume that the ResMods do not have time to read every single post and that reporting a bad one is a way to help them police the forums, by bringing it to thier attention.

My assumption has always been that if action is taken, it will be taken against the one bad post and maybe the poster if they misbehave consistently. I'm not sure why its not possible to simply delete the bad posts instead of locking an entire thread. Its rarely my desire to see an entire thread locked except for the extremely rare cases where the entire thread has wandered way off topic, become a rambling general discussion and a pointless waste of time.

IIRC because ResMods aren't allowed to delete or othewise edit posts, and IIRC you can't move a single post, so the thread gets locked, maybe moved, and a linden is theoretically supposed to review it, and THEY can delete, edit or otherwise do as they wish.

which is not the case for mods in most non-LL forums, because that restriction, while providing protection from idiot mods (or hacked accounts), also hamstrings the mods. I've modded on one private board with a similar restriction, and I can tell you, it can be very frustrating to sit and watch as something really bad like someone providing someone elses personal info gets to sit there, even if it is in a hidden mod-view-only forum after being moved, and the original poster can keep spamming the board with such posts until someone gets around to banning their account.

I'd hope there are emergency escape procedures for such things here, but I haven't seen any