Dealing with abusive and or rude newbies

meh honestly a lot of people are making alts, some just to pull your leg cause people are like that, tell them if they want help to learn this game then stop, if not log, easy,

As Always Loki said a good one. Abusive newbies that can pick from a list of greeters knows who the are messing with. And this option "should be taken out of the newbies listing for their selecting greeters." not knowing who they are dealing with is alot better then giving low life losers running alts just to mess over one greeter they are aiming for.

This is actually very good advice and works amazingly fast,
as I've done this a few times myself.

Just put it on and say "sorry, dude, I'm really a guy.
What can I help you with?"

If they say more, then just TP away to help the next Newbie.
No need to explain further to them, or justify your actions.

Gabrielle

I've had very few problems with newbies I was wanting to help. The only one that comes to mind was a kid who decided to start harrasing a woman that was a friend of mine.

Kid: Mindless dribble and innuindo.
Foolish Frost: Kid, you remember that discussion we had on good manners?
Kid: Yeah?
Foolish Frost: They apply here. Especially here. Especially when I'm here and can DO something about it...
Kid: Oh...
Foolish Frost: And don't forget this lad, It's not a warning. It's a dire threat of horrific possibilities.
Kid: Ok. Sorry.
Foolish Frost: All's forgiven.

And then the moron did it again to her within 5 minutes...

To say he got banned from the land and returned to whatever his home was instantly does not even cover it...

I dispair some avatars... You would think that anyone who can figure out SL would at least have the brains not to piss off people who have learned how to use the system against them...

Since some people know that such and sych is a great . they become a newbie then then start their little drama. I had a ex boss on sl do this to me.i knew what was going and did not take the issue any father then that. Hence she started say i was bothering her, LOL come one people are not as stupid as you think. Well anyways I think newbies SHOULD NOT be able to pick from a listing of names knowning they will tartget such personin harrassment. Not knowing the greaters names is a better sulation then that of the vurrent way to their fredom to puck who they want. This well stop the problem of this type of problems. Jaska are you rading this

I also run into the opposite. Good newbies who are curious and wanting to learn who missed getting paired up with a greeter.

What is the best way to refer a newbie to a greeter if they miss them at log in?

Newbies pick us for our areas of interest. They are allowed to view our photos and profiles as part of a effort to develop a sense of community for the newbie. The 'Secret Society' approach goes against the community-building initiative that is a important aspect of the Greeter Program.

Well thats what its suppose to have been meant for, but resenty there been a run of players abusing this system. Hence maybe this system should be reviewed and or reworked.

Truth is, being a greeter, means meeting all kinds of people. I believe your making a big deal out of nothing? So some guy hits on you in an artificial environment? Its KNOT pleasant, but LIFE DOES GO ON!

When some fella decides it time to put the make on me, I call in a friend who dresses as a female in SL. I am very grateful for the fact he has gotten me out of a tough spot by showing the bloke a very good time...before telling him the truth of his first life personality.

Point I’m making... (maybe its just me... your gods played a cruel joke on me by making me well endowed in first life...thus making me aware of unwanted advances and self taught and prepared with how to deal with them), but I think before you apply for the greeter program you should be aware of the different personalities that may enter the game. I often get as a build instructor ... the ole ... let me see you naked routine.

Some people will and do join this game as a result of its Mature Nature. As Greeters I don’t think you need to be a part of the ‘quest for knowledge’... but lets be adults and at least point them in a proper direction.

Example:

Newbie Imasexfiend: come on its just Pixels?

Mae Best: Tut tut...Pixels that I show to only a very close relationship in SL.

Newbie Imasexfiend: *(being persistent)*

Mae Best : bends over in laughter! Darlin you WAY need to go shoppin before ... I... would even have a remote interest in a ken doll!

Mae Best has offered you an inventory folder of ‘nude skins for purchase landmarks, clubs that promote escorts, and a note card with IGE, GOM, and Anshe Chung information’

Newbie Imasexfiend: *sputters and coughs*

Mae Best: Darlin, this game is all about Relationships... just like real life... you may or may not come across a few women who think SO little of themselves they would be willing to cyber with you for L’s or paypal ... be prepared for that.

Imasexfiend: *excuses of I don’t have any $*

Mae Best: *ignores excuses* Mostly its about people attempting to make a ‘connection’ with another person... The art of Creation... Making Real Money... Learning Real Computer Skills.

Mae Best: Make a choice son... go off with your folder of knowledge... or be polite and stay. Learn the important things about living in SL... by being self supportive with the art of building, texturing, scripting, and in time Friendship (morality).

End Example:

I find most really do stay... and I’m not even a greeter. Hell... my mentor status even went from one year to one month...

Maybe I whine about bugs too often ... HELL... maybe I just wine too much period.

ok whatever

How about greeting newbies dressed as a Tiny mouse or a giant seagull?

Even though I'm not a volunteer, I would gladly help any mentor or greeter who's in trouble. And I'll bring all my friends besides

(If non-volunteers aren't allowed to post here, please delete my post.)

Tyg

Do greeters actually have sex dolls?

Yes, they are usually the AV following the greeter around making lewd comments

Just wanted to remind all of the volunteers that they do not have to take any abuse, if something happens, handle it just like any other abuse situation in-world. Ask the person to stop and if they don't repot the abuse and contact a Liaison right away.

I'm not a greeter, because my time is stretched pretty thin as it is. But I just wanted to point out that Tyg's suggestion has a lot of merit.

For those of you that don't know me, my in-world AV is a white dog with a red collar. What's more - while I don't knock anyone for carrying on with AV Sex, or AV Relationships - I have zero interest in that *online*, and find virtual-come-ons to be tiring. That stance also has the effect of keeping my 'drama quotient' extraordinarily low

If you have a sexually provocative AV you greet with, and you're having problems with agressive suitors: make yourself a special, 'for greeting only' AV. There's lots of posibilities there - have fun with it

My hunch is if you make yourself a "stereotypical" unattractive female, or something else non-human.... you'll have a lot less hassle overall

Then again, if you enjoy the attention - by all means - carry on

Travis, just because i may look like the provocative type does not mean i am. I think you lost part of the issue here, abusive newbies thats hurting the greeter program. We are still getting bugs out of this system. Having fun is our goal NOT abusive treatment by these these newbies.

Not justifying their behavior in the least, Usagi - an unwanted advance is *never* ok, regardless of the way you look. So I didn't mean to imply that.

What I mean is: it may simply be less *hassle* if you had a greeter AV that the jerks out there would be less likely to advance upon.

If this problem only happens to you rarely, then I'd just file the standard Abuse report, and call a Liason if neccesary. But if this is becoming a regular occurance, and its upsetting to you - your life would be so much easier if you had a tamer AV to use for greeting

There is a quick fix for this. and its to take the list of greeeter out of the hands of the newbies and do it in a random way instead. Hence this will limitate set problems in this way.. And I know you did not mean any bad in your statement. You are not sure a doggy.

I wonder how fast SL would grow if we didn't ban these type of people... we'd probably be at WoW's membership by now

Someone could simply build a large stone bridge over a water crossing and gather the newbie trolls under it to give them a home there; then after puting maybe 50 trolls underthe bridgejust blow it up to smitherins

Now back to topic why not get a standard "clothing" for all greeters, something unisex, maybe something like a hazmat suit, blak face shield, something that will certainly not make any greeter an "attractive" target to pester or stalk with unwanted comments. I'm pretty sure no newbie will try to hit someone unisex looking wearing a hazmat suit, evenif they ask "take it off" a polite reply "sorry, it against rules to remove our work clothes when greting new players" would do.

Now, maybe this isnot a mature way to solve the problem, but for a good laugh kick I think its worth it

It's the "she deserved it, being dressed that way" conundrum.

On the one hand, it isn't the fault of the one dressed provocatively, but by the same token - knowing that jerks exist - it can be called unwise to do so.

The headline - if you take away ”newbies” can be about all in SL.. I dont mention any names.-)))

hehe i never thought id get to quote a Linden -

Okay this is Exactly the point.

This person who logs on and behaves in a lewd , unwelcome manner is bound by the TOS from the second they log in the very first time

They read it before they ever log in, therefore can not behave badly and say "o sorri i is just a noob."

So the answer to how to deal with newbie who acts lewd and doesnt take 'not interested' for an answer ,

Is the same answer of how to deal with the Beta lifer who acts lewd and doesnt take 'no' for an answer ( i do know one like this ..)

Tell them to go away - your not interested and AR them if they persist.

I dont think that once its established they have offended you, there would be any reason to carry on the conversation. The scum will only take it as encouragement.

Amen to that... Jeska laid it down perfectly. You really don't have to put up with anyone who is making your SL experience uncomfortable with lewd remarks, actions, etc. Warn and then report the overly persistant ones for good measure.

Travis' thoughts are very practical in nature and obviously not putting blame on anyone but it makes for a good warning. Do any of you go casually to meet folks dressed in a fashion that is heavily sexual (skin hanging out every which way, bling everwhere) outside of SL - SL is full of provacatively dressed women *and* men. Women are not the only folks who do so but I have seen a lot. ALL greeters should dress in a more casual fashion. The moral of the story is most people are like this: You look like a hoochie - therefore you are one - regardless of whether you really are or not - people love to read people by their appearances, being one of the first things we do when encountering another person for the first time.

However, its good to know that in SL, its just so easy to avoid folks you don't feel like dealing with. Teleportation, AFK, alternate accounts all come to mind...

Hi and sorry for butting in on this subject. I'm not a greeter yet but may be soon.

On another adult-oriented game, as a male, I sometimes played a female character. It did open my eyes to some "gents" overstepping the border of decency pretty quickly. In ALL cases this line helped rebuff those efforts:

"Hey sunshine... for all you know, I could be a guy in RL.... hey pet, still wanna fondle my privates?? Go right ahead then - I'll play it out for ya!"

Most got themselves out of my sight pretty damn quick!! The others who stuck with me were considerably poo-faced after that!! And I of course had my laughs....

Another idea would be to have a male shape and outfit ready to slip into. Either way, the laughs will be on your side as you imagine the long faces on the loud-mouth!!