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Help Island Communicator Policy

Seronis Zagato
Verified Resident
Join date: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 454
06-30-2006 06:13
From: Blueman Steele
Really do you READ the forums? Me calling arguing on the net stupid is hardly inflammatory and is quite accurate.

You making a statement that belittles people with a mental handicap and no control over it _IS_ out of line. Period. Want to call them stupid? SAY THAT. Comparing your targets to the special olympics is not forgivable.

From: Kokoro Fasching
So, if you can't get it a policy, try to shut out the volunteers this way? You appear to have a comprehension problem.

I comprehend fine. If the kiosks (that send a message that ONLY the communicators can hear) has no communicators to talk to, then people clicking them will get frustrated. So to PREVENT frustration the kiosks will be 'aware' that there is no one available to hear their pleas and adjust their floating text appropriately.

Sorry for your confussion, Is that worded better now?
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Just cause SL redefines what a videogame can be doesnt mean it isnt a game.
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Kokoro Fasching
Pixie Dust and Sugar
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 949
06-30-2006 08:58
From: Seronis Zagato

I comprehend fine. If the kiosks (that send a message that ONLY the communicators can hear) has no communicators to talk to, then people clicking them will get frustrated. So to PREVENT frustration the kiosks will be 'aware' that there is no one available to hear their pleas and adjust their floating text appropriately.

Sorry for your confussion, Is that worded better now?




From: Seronis Zagato

Tateru:

I do have one suggestion as far as the communicator is concerned. You could consider that when worn the communicators will send out a ping once a minute. If no ping is detected then the kiosks could switch modes to change their llSetText() message to something along the lines of:

"There are currently no volunteers on the island. If you have a question please try the F1 Help option. If you are still having trouble please use Live Help from the Help menu and someone will be able to assist."


There is a difference in saying that no one is currently listening to the kiosks and saying there are no volunteers on the island. That is what I am talking about. Torley has stated it will not be policy to wear them. You are trying to change the kiosks so that volunteers not wearing the communicators are not counted as volunteers.

I truly feel the more you drag this thread on, the more voluntees will stop using the communicators. The Lindens have stated their position. Let this thread die.
Seronis Zagato
Verified Resident
Join date: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 454
06-30-2006 14:08
No Torley did not state they will not make it policy. Torley said it is not currently the policy which I've also said plenty of times. Nothing was said over any current decision making process nor any outright decision.

-Edit-

Hit save to quick sorry.

Also I see your point. I did phrase that message badly so apologies.

"The Summoning Service is temporarily unavialable. Please feel free to see if any Volunteers are on the island. If none are in the area you may also use the Live Help feature via the Help menu for assistance."

Yes I am kinda single minded but that was not an intentionally aimed remark to belittle those not wearing a communicator. In every case of someone in here disagreeing with ME i've provided answers and solutions and explinations. If you have a greivance with something I say then CONSTRUCTIVELY make your point. Provide a solution you think is better. I"m not writing anything to inflame people. They are quite capable of doing that on their own by not understanding this is a _discusion_. Its not my fault of anyone fails to provide targetted critisisms and instead gets irrationally offended.
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From: Johnny Mann
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Kokoro Fasching
Pixie Dust and Sugar
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 949
06-30-2006 18:26
From: Seronis Zagato
No Torley did not state they will not make it policy. Torley said it is not currently the policy which I've also said plenty of times. Nothing was said over any current decision making process nor any outright decision.


From: Torley Linden

No, this is not the Linden view. We don't enforce wearing any attachments, as highly useful as they may be. We encourage Resident-run organization and communication facilitates that greatly, but even in the case of our own system tools, we like to make them versatile so each Resident can make their own, hopefully responsible choices.


(1) Not the Linden view
and
(2) We don't enforce wearing any attachments.

That is clearly Linden Labs has no intention of making it policy. She did NOT say it is not currently the policy, she said not being looked and, and that Linden Labs do not enforce wearing any attachments.

Very simple language, very straight forward language. There IS a policy NOT to enforce the wearing of attachments. There is no further point to this thread. Once again I ask you to end this thread.
Stan Pomeray
Starchy Sturgess
Join date: 14 Sep 2005
Posts: 205
07-04-2006 15:33
From: Siobhan Taylor
I was a mentor in Dec 2003, and an instructor... and still am.

There was no Live Help then, but there were certainly volunteers...


How long did THEY last before they got cheesed off with the control freaks?
Celeste Arnaz
Registered User
Join date: 1 Jun 2005
Posts: 70
07-07-2006 10:39
I'm actually quite offended that someone is saying that without wearing the communicator my services and my presence are not needed on HI. I'm not going to go find the direct quote that the OP posted, but we all know what it said.

I've to yet put on the communicator, I know about it, hear about it, just haven't decided to get and wear one yet. I do not stand on the hub and wait around for new residents to "appear". Though I do not have to explain my methods of Mentoring to you, I wander around the ENTIRE HI complex stopping to hang out in areas where there are new residents but either no or maybe only one other Mentor. I have, I believe, been effective in helping new residents, even taking a few to the maingrid and helping them buy skin, hair, clothes, what have you.

I feel you, the OP, was trying to dictate and tell your "fellow" Mentors what they SHOULD do to be effective on HI, but once you noticed your opinion wasn't massively accepted, changed your tune slightly. Please do not tell me how to volunteer, yes I follow guidelines and procedures and all the LINDEN made rules. I enjoy Mentoring and assisting new residents, I do things of this nature in RL as well. But as in RL, there is a time to turn off the "Let me help you" side of your gameplay. Some people may choose to wear their tag and comm all the time, I choose not too. Each to their own.

I applaud you for being passionate about an item that you feel you want it to be a mandatory policy. Everyone should have a cause they are passionate for, but when it goes to bullying people and saying you are of no use unless you do, say, act, the way I have suggested, you have become a dictator, not a concerned Mentor wanting to benefit others.

I mean no disrespect to anyone or anything. Everyone else gave their thoughts, I gave mine. Thank you.
Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
07-07-2006 10:41
From: Stan Pomeray
How long did THEY last before they got cheesed off with the control freaks?
Some of US are still around. Or were you refering to me as a "control freak"?
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Stan Pomeray
Starchy Sturgess
Join date: 14 Sep 2005
Posts: 205
07-07-2006 13:21
From: Siobhan Taylor
Some of US are still around. Or were you refering to me as a "control freak"?


No, I was referring to control freaks as control freaks. I don't recall you coming across as one, but it may be a trick question.
Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
07-07-2006 13:28
Closed.

Productive discussion is fine. It's already happened but things are sliding downhill.

We can be helpful, even if we don't always agree with each other; then again, that is the very core of the term "personal opinion". We should all know this, :) but just a gentle reminder: each of us is perfectly entitled to express an idea and debate that idea, but not focus on someone's person for attack. :\

Infighting between our appreciated volunteers is really sad too--there's no need for it. Please, don't. :(
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