Mentors and mature content
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Aleco Collas
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03-03-2008 03:29
From: Ice Stawberry The solution to your dilema would be to strictly limit access to the mentors group - Monalisas suggestion "I roleplay being a..." could be a possible compromise between dark and white in some cases - but to make the knowledge resources that are reserved for mentors now public. But this is a solution that needs to be made by LL. "I roleplay" would simply not be the truth and therefore hurt my girls. Sorry, I don't quite get the rest of that part. The station is flagged mature, it's on matulre land, it's only shown in search if you include mature content. I think that is restriction enough. cu Aleco
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Lindal Kidd
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03-03-2008 07:19
Well, this thread has certainly grown over the weekend!
First of all, I don't agree with Aleco's lifestyle. BDSM and D/s is not for me.
On the other hand, I have to say to those who are being critical: it's Aleco's business. As for newbies "running when they see his profile", let me tell you my experience...
In my first SL home, the couple next door was heavily into D/s. The man kept his female sub in a cage, when she wasn't needed by him, and engaged in lots of other practices which make me feel queasy. However, they were both courteous, well-spoken, and intelligent people. Neither of them pushed their lifestyle on me at any time. Yes, it was there to read in their Profiles, but a Profile can't hurt you. I'd be more concerned about someone who hid his or her lifestyle and sprang it on you as a surprise.
In fact, I have NEVER met a dominant who tried to trap, ensnare, or seduce me to the Dark Side. It doesn't work that way...you have to ask. Oh, I know there are newbie would-be masters who show up and start shouting "down on your knees, slave". But they are laughable.
For those who think Mentors should be "white knights" with shining profiles...well, maybe that's an ideal, but I don't think we're going to see it any time soon. SL is a cross section of humanity, and the Mentors are a cross section of SL. As long as someone adheres to the Mentor guidelines, I don't think anyone has any business telling them what should be in their profile. As long as they aren't using the Mentor tag to promote their business (or anyone else's), I don't think there's any reason not to display it.
The Mentor tag isn't a badge of morality. When you wear it, all you are saying is, "I want to help you."
As for Aleco wearing his tag while working in his help station that contains mature materials: LL has said this isn't a good idea. So Aleco ought to wear another group tag, or none. That's all he has to do. LL has not said he has to hide his membership in the Mentors while doing mature stuff.
What a pain it would be, if we all had to adjust our Profiles depending on where we wanted to go and what we wanted to do. Plus, it would introduce a fundamental dishonesty into the Profile system. Better to create an alt, if you really need to modify yourself that much.
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Aleco Collas
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03-03-2008 07:24
From: Lindal Kidd As for Aleco wearing his tag while working in his help station that contains mature materials: LL has said this isn't a good idea. So Aleco ought to wear another group tag, or none. That's all he has to do. LL has not said he has to hide his membership in the Mentors while doing mature stuff. Uhm... My own tag means the tag "SL Hilfestation" from my own group. cu Aleco
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Lindal Kidd
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03-03-2008 07:37
..and another thought to Ice...
You should venture out of your PG world and meet more escorts. Like the BDSM crowd, SL escorts tend to be intelligent, interesting people.
One of my closest friends is an ex-escort, a very successful one who made more with her texting ability than a lot of mainstream SL merchants. In RL, she's a highly educated professional.
Unlike RL, SL escorts are not "exploited". They can't be. The disease, addictions, and other downsides of the sex-worker trade don't apply here. An SL escort is a person who is skilled in creating interactive erotic chat...more of an improv playwright than a whore.
She may uh, shall we say, enjoy her work...or she may be folding laundry. But who cares what someone is doing behind their keyboard on the other side of the screen?
Ice, you're entitled to live a PG lifestyle...but please don't try to impose it on everyone else.
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Lindal Kidd
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03-03-2008 07:37
From: Aleco Collas Uhm... My own tag means the tag "SL Hilfestation" from my own group.
cu Aleco I meant, "your SL Mentor tag".
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Aleco Collas
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03-03-2008 08:15
From: Lindal Kidd I meant, "your SL Mentor tag". That's what I don't wear in my station. I wear my "SL Hilfestation" tag.
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Lindal Kidd
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03-03-2008 09:03
From: Aleco Collas That's what I don't wear in my station. I wear my "SL Hilfestation" tag. Dang, he really does need the last word doesn't he? Yes, I know, I was agreeing with you.
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Aleco Collas
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03-03-2008 12:41
From: Lindal Kidd Yes, I know, I was agreeing with you. Sorry, english is not my native language... cu Aleco P.S. What is the meaning of last word?
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-03-2008 12:42
"you" is the second person singular pronoun.
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Lindal Kidd
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03-03-2008 12:45
From: Ordinal Malaprop "you" is the second person singular pronoun. LOL@Ordinal. Aleco, "having the last word" means just what it says: Being the person who makes the last, definitive, comment in a discussion, the closing statement, the final point.
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Aleco Collas
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03-03-2008 14:02
Ah! O.K. Thank you.
Now I know.
cu Aleco
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03-03-2008 14:11
Lmao
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Alyx Sands
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03-03-2008 16:33
From: Aleco Collas Alyx, in contrary to you, Ice reacts in a civilised manner. I don't knwo why you find it necessary to draw wrong pictures, the story about the LMs for example can easily be falsified by having a look in the station and seeing, that the vast majority of the LMs is not related to mature content.
Please, for once, DO read what I wrote. I said the landmarks with churches etc was really short. i know that because I checked it out. AND I said that the general adult content is pretty large. I did not say landmarks of a specific type. I didn't count them either, I was talking about my impression. And whatever is uncivilised about my reply? It was pretty uncivilised what you accused me of in the German forums, i.e. racism and some such, and saying I was an unhelpful troll. You might ask some people around here.
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Alyx Sands
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03-03-2008 16:36
From: Monalisa Robbiani Since slavery is illegal in any country I know.... wow oh my gosh, you have broadband internet in jail??! How funny, Aleco does not accuse you of being "uncivilised". But whenever I try something ironic, I'm a troll.  And I have fluffy kitty ears too.
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Alyx Sands
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03-03-2008 16:39
From: Ordinal Malaprop "you" is the second person singular pronoun. OR plural. It used to be the polite form developed from the plural.  (My area of expertise, pleeeease let me brag a little about language history....) Oh, and "das letzte Wort haben", i.e. have the last word, exists JUST like that in German. Aleco should know it.
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Aleco Collas
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03-04-2008 00:03
Alyx, if you want to apply as a slave, please do so ingame and not in public.
cu Aleco
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03-04-2008 01:37
From: Aleco Collas Alyx, if you want to apply as a slave, please do so ingame and not in public.
cu Aleco your to funny for words LOL
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Aleco Collas
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03-04-2008 01:43
Sorry, I just couldn't resist...
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Damien Walworth
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03-04-2008 04:28
I just wanted to say, I'd like to have the last word. Thank you 
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Aleco Collas
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03-04-2008 04:31
You may...
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Ice Stawberry
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So what are you waiting for?
03-04-2008 04:32
Say what you have to say Damien...
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Aleco Collas
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03-04-2008 04:43
I'm afraid, he forgot...
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Lindal Kidd
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03-04-2008 08:17
I'm beginning to think that "Hilfestation" should really be "Infestation".
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Aleco Collas
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03-04-2008 08:23
I wonder why...
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Alyx Sands
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03-04-2008 14:30
From: Aleco Collas Alyx, if you want to apply as a slave, please do so ingame and not in public.
cu Aleco Sorry, if you really need to know, towards men I'm a domme. I can bring a whip if you want.
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