Hippiepay?
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Svoboda Garsztka
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Join date: 18 Apr 2007
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05-01-2007 14:32
I find it really hard to believe that nobody here understands how and why Hippiepay works.
The websites you are directed to have been around for a long time. The advertisers pay money to the host website to sign people up, sell products, get servey information, etc. These are all the same advertisers most likely to show up in your spam and on sidebar ads on nearly every website you visit. Most pay a commission for each sale, rather than a flat rate.
The host website in turn offers the consumer an incentive to view all the ads and sign up/answer/buy enough to be worth the cost of the incentive. If you buy enough, you get the reward. You've all seen these sites. They advertize a free laptop, iPod, plasma TV, vacation, or whatever. They often get your attention with obnoxious mini-games. They really do give these things away, and they will say right up front how much you have to buy to make it worth their while. If you say no to every offer, you don't qualify.
Finally, the host website pays other websites to direct traffic to them. They don't pay by the hit, but only when a consumer buys/signs up/answers enough to qualify for that site's reward. The payment is usually small, usually between $.50 and $5.00.
What the Hippiepay system is doing is to take that small payment for successfully advertising these sites and using part of it to buy Lindens, which are then given to you.
I do see two problems with this system, however.
First of all, if you look at the amount of Lindens you recieve and the market value of those Lindens, most offers pay less that 25% of the amount Hippiepay is keeping, even if you factor in a reasonable commision for the owner of the Hippiepay machine.
Second, this is a blatant form of buisiness advertising which may or may not conflict with the TOS. It could be interpereted either way. There are definalely many companies profiting from Hippiepay without directly participating in Second Life.
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Lankarion Lock
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Join date: 9 Oct 2006
Posts: 48
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05-03-2007 12:46
People.... stop ragging on Spotz when he's smarter than the lot of you. Hippie Pay does work. I thought for the longest time the same thing you guys are thinking... wtf why is it allowed in sl it doesnt work. I don't think it's the most desirable way to make money in SL. Definitely not, but it does pay out Lindens.
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Lankarion Lock
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05-03-2007 12:48
/me officially hands over the label of fellow thread killer to Svoboda. haha
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Sue Saintlouis
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05-04-2007 08:05
Well, I have been using HippiePay since November of last year. I recommend it to the newbies. Filling out surveys is an easy and fast way to get started. Over the months, I have made several thousands lindens. Much faster than money trees!
Like everything else, use your head: get a freebie email address and don't give out your real one ; choose the surveys that only require a little bit of information (some only request an email address) ; skip the ones that request personal information.
Yes, sometimes they don't pay, but I have been paid most of the time. The money goes directly in your account. I believe you have to be logged in-world, and access the web page from an in-world machine for it to work.
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TC Bing
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Join date: 14 Apr 2007
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05-12-2007 16:31
From: Usagi Musashi Well i hear more people NOT getting paid. If people really were getting paid atleast 10% of the time people views would be different. How did you determine that a 90% failure rate is proof of getting paid? The thing is, you are not taking into account the people who have been paid but did not reply to your post. More than likely the people who did not get paid did not complete the process. You need to realize that a typical survey or whatever site is going to make you click on many many pages before you get paid. Of course there are some that will not pay, consider them gaming you instead of you gaming them.
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Usagi Musashi
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05-12-2007 21:44
From: TC Bing How did you determine that a 90% failure rate is proof of getting paid? The thing is, you are not taking into account the people who have been paid but did not reply to your post.
More than likely the people who did not get paid did not complete the process.
You need to realize that a typical survey or whatever site is going to make you click on many many pages before you get paid. Of course there are some that will not pay, consider them gaming you instead of you gaming them. How do you figure its pay more offen then its does not?  ALl i see in this thread how those the have this worthless machines and want to draw those that are weak enough to try them.....Many still stand by their experiece that 9 out of 10 times the don`t pay if not higher. 
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TC Bing
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05-16-2007 02:48
From: Usagi Musashi How do you figure its pay more offen then its does not?  ALl i see in this thread how those the have this worthless machines and want to draw those that are weak enough to try them.....Many still stand by their experiece that 9 out of 10 times the don`t pay if not higher.  Hehe. I'm not figuring that it pays more often than not. I merely pointed out that to be paid, an individual is required to complete the process. And that not every site will pay you. Consider that some items require navigating through hundreds of clicks and not everyone is willing to do that even after working part of the way through.
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Alexandra Rucker
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Join date: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 71
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05-17-2007 17:42
For what it's worth...
Anytime I've heard complaints in-world about hippiepay, it's usually been for one of the following three:
1) They tried one and bitched because the single one they tried didn't work. (How do I know? Because I've specifically asked them how many they've tried!)
2) They've been from the wrong country for the item they tried, or a country for which there's currently nothing available on hippiepay.
3) They've been *UNDERAGE*!! One such protester turned out to be 15.
There are some ISP's out there, especially in some parts of Europe, who do automatically change customer's IP addresses EVERY time they log on to the internet (not everyone has "always on" connections) - which will make it a pain in the arse for ANY system that tracks "unique users" by IP address - such as hippiepay.
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Hg Beeks
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Join date: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 134
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05-26-2007 07:25
Any time I hear complaints about hippiepay, it's: 1) Newbies using the walking affiliates and harassing people or just being newbies about it, or 2) It's -everywhere.- It's saturated the landscape, and you rarely find a casino that doesn't have a row of them, or 3) It's given rise to the waves of "____________________________FREE MONEY" ads, events, classifieds, and groups that make it impossible to find the real and worthwhile things in the search function.
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Usagi Musashi
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05-26-2007 07:47
oh well some just don`t get it with these masters of ripoffs.........
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Mordred Lehane
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Join date: 13 Feb 2005
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05-27-2007 13:40
From: Spotz Spork Got me, I'm not a coder. I just know I got money. so you claim you gave them no real information that they could use to track you, and simply filled out a few surveys.. yet they somehow found out exactly who you were, and what account you use so they could credit you with a few lindens, and that dosent bother you in any way? the average person would think something odd was up, and might try running a few spyware scans. you've given the rest of us all we need to know, to not trust this site. thanks for the heads up.
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Cory Toll
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Join date: 18 May 2007
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05-31-2007 06:45
I've done hippiepay, and i do get money from the ones i take. all of you speaking of viruses and saying its bad have never done it and are only assuming its a scam. everytime i suggest it, i have to explain how it works, but everybody is paranoid becuae they dont understand how the "survey" sites work. they dont want to steal your infor or anything, they want to email offers and get you to do more surveys so they can get more traffic and other junk.
i dont do the ones that involve buying stuff, via credit card info, but the ones where i just confirm my email, thats it. its not a scam because they make their money by getting people to do them, its spam, but spam is pretty much advertisment. thats why you just use another email that you rarely go to. theres nothing wrong with hippiepay. just a lot of paranoid people saying its bad when they havent even tried it.
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Jake Trenchard
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Join date: 31 May 2007
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06-04-2007 15:56
HippiePay makes its money by reselling your information to spammers who have offers that are almost entirely illegal. They themselves may not be doing anything directly wrong, but I would not trust anyone that makes a living selling to known criminals. (If you think 'Canadian pharmacies' e-mailing from china and russia to sell 'c1@lis' are legitimate, ... well, don't tell me if you think that, I don't want to know. The rate of stock-pushing doesn't go up with using hippie-pay, oddly, although plenty of other shady items do.)
Anyway, I only started using secondlife recently (yeah, birthdate, but there was no linux client when I signed up, ok?) and my impression of the place is very strongly that every offer in-game to make lindens is a fraud, this impression coming from camping 'bonuses', casinos that don't post any kind of odds, and even if they did, who's checking them? Camping chairs with 'bonuses' only if you throw money in the gaming machines, blah, blah, ad nauseum. If I didn't already have friends around the place I'd have logged out and never come back. HippiePay is only part of the problem, but a big part. Every time I see one of those machines, I'm disgusted with the whole thing.
I point you to the unmoderated usenet newsgroups as an example of where secondlife is headed.
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
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06-04-2007 16:30
As I see it now, I am seeing fewer and fewer of these mencing boxs. And more of the stupid orange job information balls attached to avies as they are AFK........Like anything thing else on sl, trends die out. And I am not sorry to see the trend of these rip offs go.
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Joachim Ringo
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Join date: 31 Jan 2007
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Here to stay.
06-08-2007 00:34
Hippiepay is a trend that isn't fading away quickly. I've already seen sims promoting systems very similar to it. Why? You already know why. Because its popular. Many residents are willing to risk viruses/spyware and what have you for the quick buck. In a world that is heavily centered on an economy our main choices are :
Retail - Sale of various objects/apparel - REQUIRES EFFORT Service - Design, scripting, management - REQUIRES EFFORT Camping - Money chairs, dance pads, stripper poles - REQUIRES A MOUSE (I think)
The former 2 are the most lucrative and require the most effort to be successful in. While the later is simple and provides literally nothing for your "effort" (sitting and leaving). As I type this I myself am camping at a location with a 3L/10 minute rate and am proud to say I have earned 24L for my time. All this may seem like ranting (it does to me as I re-read it) but the point is that it is harder to make money to get the things you want in SL without EFFORT. Hippiepay requires minimal EFFORT and is the most rewarding for the EFFORT. I suppose you could turn RL money into SL funds as an alternative but I don't see much logic behind something so unstable. Personally I have nothing wrong with these systems because it's quick, gives you what you want, and keeps you out of the camping chairs and lets people enjoy the social side of SL.
EDIT : I suppose you could earn money in casinos or games like SLingo and Tringo (sp?) OR you could avoid that all and put your own RL money into L$ (which sounds like very poor choice considering the state of SL)
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Cory Toll
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Join date: 18 May 2007
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06-24-2007 16:30
viruses and spyware. none of you know how things work do you. jeezus. you need stop putting something down you know nothing about. if hippie pay were a scam, they'd be gone. it may be a trend, but avoiding things because they are popular is the stupidest trend ever.
hippie pay seems too good to be ture because you hear about scams on the news and media all the time and you get paranoid and assume the worst. well, you are wrong. they spam so you can buy things. spam is cheap advertisement. thats all it is. spam, not scam. make a new email or just move on and shut up about it
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Broken Xeno
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Join date: 9 Mar 2007
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06-25-2007 03:14
It may pay, but irregardless, the whole site just screams "scam" to me, lol.
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Usagi Musashi
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Why is this thread under Games?......................
06-25-2007 03:17
Why is this thread under games?......................HAhhaah well if you really need to use this thing to make money then maybe working on sl might net more even more. The risks are not worth the out come. besides I am seeingless and less of these mencing boxes.
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Wrager Creeley
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Join date: 8 Oct 2006
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They pay - a linden dollar per 100 surveys?
06-25-2007 03:46
I signed up as an affiliate and I won... errr... um... around 10L$
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Jumpman Lane
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Join date: 7 May 2007
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06-25-2007 04:01
it's not a scam...they pay out...great way to pick up a few lindens... find the ones that do pay and torch them at a lot of diff isp's to make em pay for the ones that dont and def give them fake info! the companies themselves are all scammy...i would never give em my real info, or use an actual email add i really used...the spam is outrageous...i only recommend this for new slers who want toget a few nice things with out spending rl $ before they really know all the possoibilities of sl!
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Usagi Musashi
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06-25-2007 04:07
From: Wrager Creeley I signed up as an affiliate and I won... errr... um... around 10L$ This is a little money...  gesh From: Jumpman Lane it's not a scam...they pay out...great way to pick up a few lindens... find the ones that do pay and torch them at a lot of diff isp's to make em pay for the ones that dont and def give them fake info! the companies themselves are all scammy...i would never give em my real info, or use an actual email add i really used...the spam is outrageous...i only recommend this for new slers who want toget a few nice things with out spending rl $ before they really know all the possoibilities of sl! read the above posters amount he got..........now tell me your story again Jump
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Johan Laurasia
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Hippiepay...
07-13-2007 01:22
Well, I signed up with BS info, and click NO to everything... made about $1500L in about an hour and a half (not bad). Of course, because I used BS info, they banned me (big deal), but I made a few L's from them... However, never, and I mean NEVER give spammers like that you're real info.. you'll never get the free Playstation/iPhone/Etc... what u will get is endless spam in your mailbox....
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