
that is kinda wierd
but don't cry
please
you can allways raise up your office a bit and look over it and still see your pretty pondz
/me hugs you
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10-14-2007 11:31
![]() that is kinda wierd but don't cry please you can allways raise up your office a bit and look over it and still see your pretty pondz /me hugs you _____________________
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Walker Moore
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10-14-2007 11:39
that is kinda wierd I'd raise a ticket. I'd IM Guy Linden. When I read the first message in this thread, I thought it was probably an overreaction (so much of those here), but it turns out the concerns are quite valid. I'd be annoyed by that bodge job too. _____________________
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Xi Taurog
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10-14-2007 11:42
But I completely understand Shez's point. Would it be that hard for Linden to put a dirt road through that region or something that blends in more with the surrounding environment? I like the roads too. And for as many people who were complaining before about the roads not being paved, it seems that LL can't win, because now people are complaining that the roads are being paved. It would be impossible for the Lindens to make people happy by putting in roads that blend with the surrounding environment, because as has been mentioned in this thread many times before, the environment on mainland tends to change almost daily, and there is no unifying theme. As for regions, should they put a dirt or cobblestone road in one region because it appears to match what the current landowner has up that day, and then switch at the sim border to a futuristic raised asphalt road because it matches the next landowner's decor? |
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10-14-2007 11:46
I know you have already been over here but for the hopelessly bored or the mildly curious, the address is... http://slurl.com/secondlife/Dorje/161/36/63 Anyone who wanders over here bear in mind that all of the Flying Tree land on both sides of the road are mine. Dorje??? I used to own some land in the east side of the road right after it was opened. They paved a sim that was created that recently, but not the road in my home sim that I have been wanting paved for a year now. Go figure... |
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10-14-2007 12:02
I like the roads too. And for as many people who were complaining before about the roads not being paved, it seems that LL can't win, because now people are complaining that the roads are being paved. _____________________
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Giz Ihnen
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10-14-2007 12:23
I like the roads too. And for as many people who were complaining before about the roads not being paved, it seems that LL can't win, because now people are complaining that the roads are being paved. It would be impossible for the Lindens to make people happy by putting in roads that blend with the surrounding environment, because as has been mentioned in this thread many times before, the environment on mainland tends to change almost daily, and there is no unifying theme. As for regions, should they put a dirt or cobblestone road in one region because it appears to match what the current landowner has up that day, and then switch at the sim border to a futuristic raised asphalt road because it matches the next landowner's decor? True. I see your point Xi, but I just looked at that picture poopmaster posted...that is atrocious! That just looked like nobody gave two hoots when they put it up, like the person in charge of road building was in a hurry to just get it done, not even taking into consideration the lay of the terrain (but that would fall under what you said also.) Perhaps Linden could look into a volunteer road building group of residents? I'd sign up ![]() Just tossing ideas because my heart does go out to Shez on this one... |
Jessica Elytis
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10-14-2007 12:26
E-mail Guy Linden about the roadway. He has a LONG list so expect a wait, but the will change the roadway to match the area. I don't think retexturing for cobblestone would be that hard anyway.
I'm one of the pro-road people, but 1) I like to drive, and 2) if LL is going to ruin the parcels by cutting an irregular swath through them, I'd like them used in SOME manner *Grins* But as stated above, due to the amount of land you own, use Concierage as it is intended. Lowering the land to match the rest as well as having the road to match should be well within yoru rights. You may also want to look for a road texture that matches your builds (and can match up to the pre-existing roads in the sims joining yours that you don't own), to hand out to the Linden doing the roadwork. Make their life easier to help you. ~Jessy EDIT: Just looked at the pic posted by poopmaster. Yeah, get Concierage on that, and tell them to take a rolled up newspaper to the Linden who "built" that, then give that Linden a landmark to the Ivory Tower of Primitives to learn how to build objects that are NOT cubes,ffs. Quote: "Every village has their idiot. We just have more than our fair share." _____________________
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10-14-2007 12:39
I don't mind roads at all. Unfortunately this one appears undecided about whether it's a road or an aqueduct. Whew... I just visited there and I agree, that is not a road. I can undestand why it was doen that way, it was much faster than actually trying to adjust the ground and fit the road surface to it. I tried to walk along the road to the south, and when I reached the sim boundary (which I did not realize I was at because I was 10 meters off the ground), I fell inside the road prims, and I was unable to move, so I had to TP out. If it was at least designed to look like a bridge so you could walk across under the roadway it would not be so bad. |
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10-14-2007 16:39
Had a look and it really is jerry built.
Virtually none of the prims had seamless joins with minor x-axis variations to account for terrain changes instead of adjusting the orientation - admittedly this would be time consuming but I'm inclined to the view of either build Linden roads properly or not at all. Also, why produce 'walls' for an elevated road - which appears to be the intention since there's no attempt to make them match the surrounding terrain - out of terrain textures instead of construction textures? Or is it possible it's not finished yet? I too fell inside some prims which, as far as I could tell, were not marked phantom. I joined the Road Building Group but now I'm not so sure. I suspect this shows that it's not practicable to build roads into occupied mainland regions where edited land is going to make it an eyesore at some points along the route. Expecting land owners to start editing land & all the potential knock-on to objects to make the road work in context doesn't seem reasonable. Shez's pond is a good example of this - if she was to edit her land in a gentle gradient to disguise the walls she'd also have to edit the pond. Any other members of the group have any thoughts on this? _____________________
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Shez Oyen
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10-15-2007 14:09
Any other members of the group have any thoughts on this? I have one last comment (or 2) ... Linden Labs concierge "service" is a joke, I have never gotten a lick of help from them on anything except restarting my dead region. (the old help system worked, when pleas for help were submitted in e-mail Torley showed up quickly to help each time) I have still heard nothing back from concierge or anyone else in re the ticket I submitted about the ugly obstacle erected in the middle of my land, not even an e-mail saying we are looking at it. Further, Linden Labs has spoiled the nature of the land I bought from them for a natural retreat area and they should buy it back for what I paid since you can't ride or walk naturally across it any more and they are the ones who made it worthless to me. P.S. The other side of my property still has the neighbor strobbing lights that completely destroy sitting at the pond at night, yes I AR'd her so did one of my tenants that lives near the pond). I have a lot invested here and I feel like I am getting a royal hosing all the way around. |
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10-15-2007 14:50
I have still heard nothing back from concierge or anyone else in re the ticket I submitted about the ugly obstacle erected in the middle of my land, not even an e-mail saying we are looking at it. Further, Linden Labs has spoiled the nature of the land I bought from them for a natural retreat area and they should buy it back for what I paid since you can't ride or walk naturally across it any more and they are the ones who made it worthless to me. See, now you just lost every bit of sympathy I had for you. The "ugly obstacle" is not in the middle of YOUR land. It is on Linden land. You made the bad choice of buying land on either side of a Linden road, apparently unaware that LL planned to pave the road. LL never promised to keep the land open and natural to preserve the value of your property. You have no right to dictate what others do with their land, including LL. By buying on mainland where there is no zoning, you accepted the risk that eventually something you didn't like would be built right next to you. By all means, contact LL to see if they are willing to compromise on this. If you are lucky, they'll change or remove the road. But keep in mind that you are asking them for a favor. It is their land, held aside specifically for building a road, and you simply have no rights to it whatsoever. |
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10-15-2007 15:07
*moves*
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10-15-2007 16:17
P.S. The other side of my property still has the neighbor strobbing lights that completely destroy sitting at the pond at night, yes I AR'd her. Was the strobing light on your land? If not, why AR your neighbour? It's her land to do what she wants with.... Just because it's not to your taste, your place might not be to hers. So, you are complaining about 2 of your neighbours - one with a stobelight and one who built a road... Both on thier own land. If you don't want this to happen, you can buy an island - if you cant afford it, you have to give and take a little. Sheesh, what a nice neighbour you must be... Gomez _____________________
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10-15-2007 18:55
Was the strobing light on your land? If not, why AR your neighbour? It's her land to do what she wants with.... Just because it's not to your taste, your place might not be to hers. So, you are complaining about 2 of your neighbours - one with a stobelight and one who built a road... Both on thier own land. If you don't want this to happen, you can buy an island - if you cant afford it, you have to give and take a little. Sheesh, what a nice neighbour you must be... Gomez The strobe lights were INTRUDING onto my land, they were coming thru the walls. I could care less if everyone in the game who likes them strobes their brains out on their own land as long as they keep them on their own property. They were flashing my pond and all the landscaping on MY land. Sheesh yerself. It is moot now anyway, a very nice person named Beck went by the strobbing place and helped them fix the errant lights this afternoon while I was offline... thank you Beck whomever you are. In re the road... I'm not going to weenie wag with you about it because I am not the only one who can see that the so called road is a bloody disfunctional mess, an eyesore and it totally spoiled the area. A short aside to Ava... the gash does cut my land in half and never in my wildest dreams did I think the Lindens themselves would make such a botched mess of a road, elevated even! OK, I'm sure Strife will be glad to hear this... I'm outta this thread ![]() |
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10-16-2007 05:21
The strobe lights were INTRUDING onto my land, they were coming thru the walls. In that case, I apologise - it was not clear from your post that it was a parcel encroachment issue. Clearly if it was, you were well within your rights to complain. Gomez _____________________
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