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Do not rez buy or use the Eye of Horus.. You will be very sorry if you do.

Cinos Field
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05-30-2007 14:10
That, my friend, is a fabricated or very buggy screenshot. The EoH does NOT say that line. Ever. In normal conditions, at least.
Cinthya Vavoom
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05-30-2007 14:26
From: Cinos Field
That, my friend, is a fabricated or very buggy screenshot. The EoH does NOT say that line. Ever. In normal conditions, at least.



Yes it does and there is nothing fabricated about it.. the shot form SL had to be turned to JPEG and that makes it look not so good.
Cinthya Vavoom
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05-30-2007 14:30
Problem solved
Cinthya Vavoom
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05-30-2007 14:43
Problem solved. Sim reset fixed it. read first and or last post by me.
Talarus Luan
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05-30-2007 14:53
From: Cinthya Vavoom
BTW good luck muting me,, As the mute list resets everytime you log out.


Not for avatars, and definitely not in the forums. ;)
Sindy Tsure
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05-30-2007 15:10
I was just now at the sim shown in the screenshot, looking around for this object and got a blue "restarting region in 2 minutes" popup..

Cinthya, you should head back there and see if the problem is still happening.
Cinthya Vavoom
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05-30-2007 15:20
From: Sindy Tsure
I was just now at the sim shown in the screenshot, looking around for this object and got a blue "restarting region in 2 minutes" popup..

Cinthya, you should head back there and see if the problem is still happening.




Yes my Friend who is part of that sim got contact with the owner and got her to reset it you must of went in as she was resetting it.

The sim reset seems to of fixed the problem.. Im very happy about that.

SO to anyone else who has this problem or if it happens to you. get the Sim owner to reset the sim and that should clear it up as it just did for me.
Cinos Field
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05-30-2007 16:16
From: Cinthya Vavoom
Yes it does and there is nothing fabricated about it.. the shot form SL had to be turned to JPEG and that makes it look not so good.


Except the Eye does NOT say that when it deletes itself.
April Heaney
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05-30-2007 17:07
From: Cinthya Vavoom
Jessica my IMs are capped every time I log in tanks to the eye of horus.. As I stated to both of you in offline IMs My email is full of 500+ emails every time I check it all spamm form the eye. AS I stated to you as well.

Also when The Issue is as big as this and nothing is being done this is a very good place to come. As for me stuff thankfully my deisgns aren't made to spamm IMs every 1 minute. Its been 5 days now that Im getting spammed by it every 1 minute when im in and out of wrold. Not only is it annoying and agrovating its making me miss very important IMs and so on.

Suggestion to you jessica don't make stuff that spamms like that.


Cinthya, as I explained to you myself... In reply to you asking if there was a chat command, I said:

[3:54] April Heaney: /20 destructnow, as it states in the manual. But if it's giving that message and not deleting itself, it can't be deleted that way.

And as you yourself said, the object itself did not exist any longer. Does that sound like a normal condition? Do you write scripts that account for every future bug that Linden Lab could ever possibly introduce? With the exception of attachments, experienced scripters generally count on the llDie() function to delete an object and the scripts within with 100% reliability.

Your claims and accusations are lies, you didn't follow advice when you got it, and you insult people in forums instead of making a logical case for your opinion.

Your posts here border on libel. Look it up.
Jessica Lindsay
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05-30-2007 20:43
I like how the problem is resolved, from the first time You messaged me, I tried to get with You and help You resolve it, but Your reaction was to get on the Second Life forums and entitle a post "Do not rez buy or use the Eye of Horus.. You will be very sorry if you do."
Of the million other things You could have written, that is what You chose to write. You also went back and deleted your posts in what I can only surmise is an effort to make Yourself look better.

I find You, Cinthya, to be antagonistic, resentful, and bitter. Not to mention unreasonable and more than a little bit underhanded.

It was indeed Your right to come on the forums and complain. And I understand You were frustrated, but people were trying to help You. I just hope Your customers are more reasonable with You than You were with April. Because believe me, forum readers have a long memory.

April Heaney continues to be the single most customer and service oriented designer in Second Life.

I really think You owe her an apology for Your tactics here. But whatever. I have already said what I think of You.

Jessica Lindsay
Sofia Westwick
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05-30-2007 21:51
From: April Heaney
Cinthya, as I explained to you myself... In reply to you asking if there was a chat command, I said:

[3:54] April Heaney: /20 destructnow, as it states in the manual. But if it's giving that message and not deleting itself, it can't be deleted that way.

And as you yourself said, the object itself did not exist any longer. Does that sound like a normal condition? Do you write scripts that account for every future bug that Linden Lab could ever possibly introduce? With the exception of attachments, experienced scripters generally count on the llDie() function to delete an object and the scripts within with 100% reliability.

Your claims and accusations are lies, you didn't follow advice when you got it, and you insult people in forums instead of making a logical case for your opinion.

Your posts here border on libel. Look it up.



April, I have seen this happen at my Islands. Everything I have see Cinthya Post has been exactly what I have seen. I also could not delete it or return it or disable it. It was Eye of Horus.

this Post of yours I find to be not truth. It is not Mis use of the Item, It is the item it self is flawed, Now with Update.

I do not post until now as I see you both attacking customer that was desperate for help. She have say the problem is fix and how fix it. Now you both attack her. Very bad customer service.

Attacking her does not make you look good or your items look good, If I was think of buy form you I would not after see how poorly you handle this.
Jessica Lindsay
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05-30-2007 23:14
From: Sofia Westwick
April, I have seen this happen at my Islands. Everything I have see Cinthya Post has been exactly what I have seen. I also could not delete it or return it or disable it. It was Eye of Horus.

this Post of yours I find to be not truth. It is not Mis use of the Item, It is the item it self is flawed, Now with Update.

I do not post until now as I see you both attacking customer that was desperate for help. She have say the problem is fix and how fix it. Now you both attack her. Very bad customer service.

Attacking her does not make you look good or your items look good, If I was think of buy form you I would not after see how poorly you handle this.


I assure You Sofia we were pretty serious about trying to help her. Was it her right to come on the forums and complain? Sure. I think its poor form though, especially after help was offered repeatedly. Its an online environment, so it may take a few days to actually make a face to face, especially with different time zones. Coming to the forums with a sensationalist claim like Cinthya did is just not fair in my opinion.
How would You like it if someone had a problem on Your land, and came to the forums saying not to buy land from Sofia Westwick? Since this is a bug with the Second Life Client Software, and not with the Eye of Horus, it could have easily been a problem with a house on one of YOUR islands. I doubt You would be so quick to judge April if You were in her shoes. Whatever though. Its a shame Cinthya felt she had to resort to such a measure as this, but I guess its her right. As far as not buying anything from The Omega Concern? I will cheerfully send You Land Marks to our competitors. :) I can assure You that none of them offer the comprehensive customer support that The Omega Concern is justifiably famous for. Cynthia Vavoom may be able to whine that she had a problem with one of our devices. What she cannot say (and not be a liar) is that she was not getting support for that item. Or that no one had contacted her to try and help her.
Anyway. Thanks for Your two cents. You can reach me in game for a demonstration of any of the cutting edge products in The Omega Concern's line.

Jessica Lindsay
Administrator, The Omega Concern
Darien Caldwell
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05-31-2007 12:37
From: Cinthya Vavoom
Since it caps my IMs unchecking the IMs to email would make me miss the few who come through.. You have no clue.. try living with this see how you feel. and no i've had 0 help. So until your here and see facts don't tell me i was helped to the most possable way as I was not. saying to read the note card isn't customer support.


BTW good luck muting me,, As the mute list resets everytime you log out.


As a scripter and buider, I have every clue. You are the clueless one. You are lucky April and Jessica have the patience to deal with someone as antagonistic and ungrateful as you are. I would probably have let you rot in your misery for acting this way. You can't blame April for a Linden Labs bug!
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Darien Caldwell
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05-31-2007 12:43
From: Sofia Westwick
April, I have seen this happen at my Islands. Everything I have see Cinthya Post has been exactly what I have seen. I also could not delete it or return it or disable it. It was Eye of Horus.

this Post of yours I find to be not truth. It is not Mis use of the Item, It is the item it self is flawed, Now with Update.

I do not post until now as I see you both attacking customer that was desperate for help. She have say the problem is fix and how fix it. Now you both attack her. Very bad customer service.

Attacking her does not make you look good or your items look good, If I was think of buy form you I would not after see how poorly you handle this.


They didn't attack her, they are merely defending themselves against her unfounded claims. It's obvious her real motivation is to defame the Omega Concern, not to get help. Her behaviour is that of a 12 year old, perhaps Linden Labs should verify her age. You shouldn't allow your reputation to be damaged by trying to defend her, But that's your choice.
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Cinthya Vavoom
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05-31-2007 12:55
From: Darien Caldwell
They didn't attack her, they are merely defending themselves against her unfounded claims. It's obvious her real motivation is to defame the Omega Concern, not to get help. Her behaviour is that of a 12 year old, perhaps Linden Labs should verify her age. You shouldn't allow your reputation to be damaged by trying to defend her, But that's your choice.




Those were not unfounded claims. As I have had to reset 3 of my sims thus far do to that exact bug in the Eye of Horus.

Thanks to Post of Cinthya I was able to help the people with same problem, as She have post fix for problem. As I see it She posted fix to problem for item you 3 make. Neither of you 3 have posted fix.

Attacking her like you 3 are show poor behavior, and no integrity.

It only makes your Business look worse.
Darien Caldwell
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05-31-2007 12:56
/flame on
And before anyone posts how they would never buy anything from me because of what I said, guess what, I don't care! :D I do what I do in SL for fun, SL is somewhere I go for a fun relaxing time after a hard day's Real-Life work. I enjoy making my things and selling them to people who enjoy using them. But it only takes one person like this to suck all the enjoyment that 1000 good, happy customers provide. I am a heart on my sleeve kind of person, I don't do diplomacy, and I don't mince words. When people seek help, I help them, in any way I can. If people want to bitch and give attitude, They had better go elsewhere.
/flame off.
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Sofia Westwick
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05-31-2007 13:12
From: Darien Caldwell
They didn't attack her, they are merely defending themselves against her unfounded claims. It's obvious her real motivation is to defame the Omega Concern, not to get help. Her behaviour is that of a 12 year old, perhaps Linden Labs should verify her age. You shouldn't allow your reputation to be damaged by trying to defend her, But that's your choice.


From: Darien Caldwell

flame on
And before anyone posts how they would never buy anything from me because of what I said, guess what, I don't care! I do what I do in SL for fun, SL is somewhere I go for a fun relaxing time after a hard day's Real-Life work. I enjoy making my things and selling them to people who enjoy using them. But it only takes one person like this to suck all the enjoyment that 1000 good, happy customers provide. I am a heart on my sleeve kind of person, I don't do diplomacy, and I don't mince words. When people seek help, I help them, in any way I can. If people want to bitch and give attitude, They had better go elsewhere.
/flame off.




Those were not unfounded claims. As I have had to reset 3 of my sims thus far do to that exact bug in the Eye of Horus.

Thanks to Post of Cinthya I was able to help the people with same problem, as She have post fix for problem. As I see it, She posted fix to problem for item 2 of you make. Neither of you 3 have posted fix.

Attacking her like you 3 are show poor behavior, and no integrity.

It only makes your Business look worse.

As for you Darien Caldwell your doing damage to the Omega Concern name, right now in your posts.
Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
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05-31-2007 13:22
I have no doubt that the bug is with the simulation software, because it causes more things to break than the Eye of Horus.

My original question (again, from curiosity) is: Why is it using llInstantMessage instead of llOwnerSay?


Yeah, I know, it's off-topic, sorta. Inquiring minds want to know, though. :)
Sofia Westwick
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05-31-2007 13:25
From: Darien Caldwell
They didn't attack her, they are merely defending themselves against her unfounded claims. It's obvious her real motivation is to defame the Omega Concern, not to get help. Her behaviour is that of a 12 year old, perhaps Linden Labs should verify her age. You shouldn't allow your reputation to be damaged by trying to defend her, But that's your choice.


From: Darien Caldwell

flame on
And before anyone posts how they would never buy anything from me because of what I said, guess what, I don't care! I do what I do in SL for fun, SL is somewhere I go for a fun relaxing time after a hard day's Real-Life work. I enjoy making my things and selling them to people who enjoy using them. But it only takes one person like this to suck all the enjoyment that 1000 good, happy customers provide. I am a heart on my sleeve kind of person, I don't do diplomacy, and I don't mince words. When people seek help, I help them, in any way I can. If people want to bitch and give attitude, They had better go elsewhere.
/flame off.




Those were not unfounded claims. As I have had to reset 3 of my sims thus far do to that exact bug in the Eye of Horus. The people Who I have help have same it spamming IM to them every 1minute.

Thanks to Post of Cinthya I was able to help the people with same problem, as She have post fix for problem. As I see it, She posted fix to problem for item 2 of you make. Neither of you 3 have posted fix.

As for you Darien Caldwell your doing damage to the The Business name in question. name, right now in your posts.

Attacking her, like you 3 are show poor behavior, and no integrity.

It only makes your Business look worse attacking her as you 3 have been. You should of left it alone after she found fix for the problem and posted it. Not start attacking her for problem/bug in your item.
Jessica Lindsay
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05-31-2007 16:32
From: Sofia Westwick
Those were not unfounded claims. As I have had to reset 3 of my sims thus far do to that exact bug in the Eye of Horus. The people Who I have help have same it spamming IM to them every 1minute.

Thanks to Post of Cinthya I was able to help the people with same problem, as She have post fix for problem. As I see it, She posted fix to problem for item 2 of you make. Neither of you 3 have posted fix.

As for you Darien Caldwell your doing damage to the The Business name in question. name, right now in your posts.

Attacking her, like you 3 are show poor behavior, and no integrity.

It only makes your Business look worse attacking her as you 3 have been. You should of left it alone after she found fix for the problem and posted it. Not start attacking her for problem/bug in your item.


I have rezzed my Eye of Horus 8 times in the last 24 hours and have not had one problem with it Sofia. No one is attacking her. I just think its lame that she chose to title her post "Do not rez buy or use the Eye of Horus." I think You must have some kind of motive to post here, Sofia, I am not sure what though. But rest assured, if there is a problem with one of our devices, we try to sort it out, not point fingers.
Its your right to post wherever You want to. This is my good friends livelihood though, and You are messing around with it by trying to make us out to be the bad guys. Just thought You should know that.
I get tells every day from our customers saying that The Omega Concern is the only business in Second Life who they feel cares about them after they buy something here.
You say we are attacking her? She could have used any other wording than what she chose. Her wording is an attack on The Omega Concern and April Heaney. If You do not understand that, You need to look up the definition of the word libel.

You are saying there is a problem with the device in question. That is not the case. It is a rare bug in the Second Life Client Software that can effect ANY scripted device. What You are doing now is known as slander. I suggest You look up that word as well.
As far as hurting The Omega Concern business? The only people who hurt businesses in Second Life are people like Yourself, Sofia, because You condone and encourage irresponsible speech.

Seems to me like the only people here on the attack are You and Cinthya.

Jessica Lindsay
Alyx Sands
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05-31-2007 16:46
What a load of bs. That could happen with ANY scripted object with the current bug in SL...it does sound pretty libellous to me. But what it actually did was make me curious about the Eye of Horus, so maybe it'll help sales! ;)
Jessica Lindsay
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Join date: 28 Jun 2006
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05-31-2007 17:04
From: Alyx Sands
What a load of bs. That could happen with ANY scripted object with the current bug in SL...it does sound pretty libellous to me. But what it actually did was make me curious about the Eye of Horus, so maybe it'll help sales! ;)


I would not be at all surprised if it was a tactic to hurt sales, honestly.
Feel free to stop by any time for a demo Alyx. On my Eye of Horus, in High Mode, I have not been killed or sent home once in over four hundred Combat Sandbox altercations. The Eye of Horus continues to be one of the finest examples of what one dedicated individual can produce here in Second Life. It also represents thousands of hours of work on the part of April Heaney. Who quite frankly I consider to be the single most gifted designer in Second Life.

Most Respectfully,
Jessica Lindsay
Tristan Meriman
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Eye of Horus issues
05-31-2007 18:42
I am acustomer of Omega and have purchased most of their systems, some multiple times on behalf of friends. I have used these succesfully, especially the Omega home security system and the Omicron many times to fend off griefers on my land. I don't have any financial links with Omega at all other than as a customer.

On a number of occasions I have had difficulties with using the systems I bought, (entirely because of my own inability to understand instructions, lol) and have received extensive help from Omega without any charge. On several occasions, Omega staff have kindly gone to my land to help fix my stuff ups, which frankly amazed me.

I can only speak of my experience with Omega, and that is what it has been - very helpful and accomodating and way beyond anything I am used to experiencing in RL.

I haven't had any issssues with my Eye of Horus, but I am sure Omega would help me if I did. Knowing me, it is only a matter of time before I stuff up something with it.
Matthew Dowd
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06-01-2007 12:53
The server bug in question seems to affect scripted objects, so seems to be linked to the scripting engine.

The Eye of Horus by all accounts seems a fairly complex object, I suspect with quite a few interacting scripts, and scripts which are pushing the bounds of LSL in places.

As such, I would not be surprised if the Eye (and any similarly complicated scripted object) might be particularly prone to this bug. That doesn't however make the Eye of Horus per se faulty.
Haroldthe Burrel
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06-02-2007 05:36
I have dealt with April in the past and found her to go more than overboard on customer service. She has always been honest and helpful.

That's all I am saying.
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