Ok I hadent heard about this in a while...
Last I heard Havoc2 was goiung to be in SL but not emidately...
Will It be in 1.7 any time soon?
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TXGorilla Falcone
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09-23-2005 12:16
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09-23-2005 13:27
The Lindens really need to learn to be careful what they promise. While 1.7's list of new features and fixes is impressive, the two big things that were promised as main features are noteably absent. Neither Havok 2 nor HTML will be in 1.7. Sad, sad, sad.
Andrew recently said they're in the process of revamping their development and deployment structure so that new features will be released on an as-finished basis, rather than having to wait to get lumped into a major release. Hoepfully that will speed things up. I'm not sure why I believe that after so many broken promises, but I do. _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
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09-23-2005 14:35
/me laughs
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Jillian Callahan
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09-23-2005 14:58
/me laughs I'll be taking bets if we get Havok 2 before the winter solstice.  _____________________
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Julian Fate
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09-23-2005 15:19
Think we'll get Havok 2 before The Singularity?
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Torley Linden
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09-23-2005 15:21
Think we'll get Havok 2 before The Singularity? HAHAHA... imagine the all-star band for that... or even a duo, Meadows and Vinge, live in Second Life! _____________________
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Frans Charming
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09-23-2005 15:44
I'm still hopefull. I bet 10$L on November.
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Jillian Callahan
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09-23-2005 15:46
I'm still hopefull. I bet 10$L on November. _____________________
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Nathan Stewart
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09-23-2005 17:12
I think the development cycle works out at about 3/4 months but dont quote me on that if so then i figure 1.8 will be going to preview around nov/dec, 1.9 mar/apr and 2.0 with there already forecast summer 2006 ?
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TXGorilla Falcone
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09-23-2005 17:42
Heh Heck we even need a betting pool for gettin 1.7 in main grid for that matter
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blaze Spinnaker
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09-24-2005 05:12
I hear Havok 2 will be the singularity, given all the expectations..
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Pypo Chung
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09-27-2005 09:19
Hmm. Of what year? 2017 or maybe 2021 |
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Logan Bauer
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09-27-2005 09:35
I hear Havok 2 will be the singularity, given all the expectations.. DAMNIT! blaze beat me to it, eheheheheheheheh!!!  _____________________
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Einsman Schlegel
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09-27-2005 10:43
2012.
But honestly, i'm beginning to think havok2 is some sort of inside joke. i hadn't seen any serious response from the lindens to date about it. _____________________
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Gwyneth Llewelyn
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09-27-2005 16:38
The Lindens really need to learn to be careful what they promise. While 1.7's list of new features and fixes is impressive, the two big things that were promised as main features are noteably absent. Neither Havok 2 nor HTML will be in 1.7. Sad, sad, sad. Havok 2 won't make it, but I thought a limited version of HTML would..? Remember, the last time I heard Andrew talking about it, he still didn't dismiss HTML... As a non-physics-scripter, I will certainly miss HTML more  ... although, of course, I'm also curious as to the improvements using Havok 2.Although I may imagine that Havok 2 will be implemented in SL when Havok 4 comes out... hehe... in a year or two  _____________________
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Nathan Stewart
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09-27-2005 16:44
Nope html wont make 1.7 from what i heard, i very much doubt that it will be included in a patch version 1.7.1 etc, but you never know, since all the libraries got pulled i think its a definate delay on that too.
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Pypo Chung
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09-29-2005 09:55
html will probably be up in 1.8 problem is, that will be in 2017
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Zalandria Zaius
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hmm
09-29-2005 10:39
Does it seem like they pulled all the stuff we really needed to get in the stuff we thought might be neato to have?
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Einsman Schlegel
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09-29-2005 11:34
Probably. I don't expect anything to happen in regards to any of these features before 2.0. By then, things will probably won't be pretty.
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Alexander Yeats
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09-29-2005 11:44
You think you are waiting around now for Havok 2, just see how long you'll have to wait for the current version of Havok, Havok 3!
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Sam Portocarrero
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09-29-2005 14:03
I expect Havok2 to come out in early to mid 2006, but it will be "under the hood" fixes and not the "great vehicle" physics engine we hope. We prolly wont see that till the 2007 time frame. I bet then most of their efforts will go to the new rendering engine (hell they could even wait and release them both at once, in late 07-early 08. After that the process will begin again of rebuilding SL for yet another new rendering engine and Havok 3.
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Kathmandu Gilman
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09-29-2005 16:16
I don't doubt Havok2 could be put in SL with 1.7 but the fact that SL can barely handle Havok1 its going to be a long time before it is implemented. SL has to keep an eye on the fact the vast majority of thier customers are running on older, weaker machines. Havok2 probably represnts increasing the minimum requirements to perhaps a 1.8 opposed to a 800. This could remove 30-40% of their user base in one fell swoop. Not a good idea. Until that number drops to like 10% or less will SL even consider moving to Havok2.
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Stephane Zugzwang
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09-30-2005 00:40
We won't get Havok 2 because it won't be a suppported environment by the time it makes it into SL
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Strife Onizuka
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09-30-2005 00:47
We won't get Havok 2 because it won't be a suppported environment by the time it makes it into SL .X_X you don't know how right you are. _____________________
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Eggy Lippmann
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09-30-2005 02:31
I don't doubt Havok2 could be put in SL with 1.7 but the fact that SL can barely handle Havok1 its going to be a long time before it is implemented. SL has to keep an eye on the fact the vast majority of thier customers are running on older, weaker machines. Havok2 probably represnts increasing the minimum requirements to perhaps a 1.8 opposed to a 800. This could remove 30-40% of their user base in one fell swoop. Not a good idea. Until that number drops to like 10% or less will SL even consider moving to Havok2. Havok runs on the server _____________________
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