Adult changes being gamed

I was just reading about adult content,and its new rules.Well,there are huge amounts of personal giveaways out there that are of massively adult content.And the most I have ran into are at the freebie places.Male members,female bits,etc.Though theyre not sold,arent they still under the new laws of No Adult Content allowed? Just curious.

Hi, I am very angry about this too.
I have a sexbed shop since 4 years now, and i moved directly to a adult sim.
Now i have no business.

I am on place 1-3 if you search for "sexbed" in the all search including adult content.
But i am not listed at mature content.

The problem i have, is that i still find PG and mature sims with words like "sexbed, sex, sex animations" in there title or description.
All moved businesses are going down because of that.
Why should anyone verify his or her account, if they are able to find everything in search ?

There are many many regions/sims still listed as mature, that are obviously adult. I'm not talking about places with images of bare breasts, I'm talking about sims where people openly engage in sex on poseballs. Untick 'adult' and type 'sex' into search and see for yourselves. I work on a sim that has been flagged as Adult since day1 and I find, once again, that Linden Labs ignore the so called 'big guns' breaking the rules.

As with everything in SL, it really is just a joke. These places have had AR's filed on them and they're still there, operating as mature.

You are quite wrong. "Promote" in this usage does not mean something that "encourages people to act in that manner". If it did, every private home in SL with a sex bed in it would have to move to Zindra.

"Publicly promote" means "an advertised event or business open to the public".

The gaming comes in because of LL's idiotic policy on advertising. You can have a sex bed shop on Mature land...you just can't use the words "sex bed" in your ads or parcel description. This is daft, of course, but par for LL. And in this case I believe it's deliberate.

LL doesn't care if your adult content is on Zindra or still on Mature land. What they WANT is for you to go out of business and eliminate the adult content entirely. The sex operation that followed the rules and moved gets strangled because people don't know to account verify and can't find them in Search. The sex operation that stayed gets strangled because to keep under the radar, they can't advertise their products.

Both businesses lose a huge part of their customer base. LL says, "Bye bye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, it's tough to make a buck in SL, failures happen all the time, so sorry."

Unfortunately it does mean that, people are just not reading the rules. The actual section that states it's promoting is: "Dance clubs that feature "burlesque" acts can also generally reside in Mature Regions so long as they don't promote sexual conduct, such as through pose balls (whether in "backrooms" or more visible spaces)."

It's in black and white in the rules, the presence sexual of poseballs in publically advertised area is promoting sexual conduct and not allowed.

Ivana, your understanding of the SL rules is correct. Unfortunately, LL's "enforcement" right now is mostly limited to sending emails to people who put adult keywords in their places listings on non-adult land.

You CAN file ARs when you believe you've found a violation. Also, don't consider the blotter a real indicator of enforcement actions going on; not everything shows up there. You will probably never hear what happened to your AR, but that doesn't mean it won't be addressed.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15746

I too fully complied with the Adult Policy changes and moved to Zindra. Unfortunately, I found out later that I did not have to move, but I am stuck as I cannot afford to move without selling my Zindra land and right now, no one wants it unless they get it for nothing.

There are a lot of businesses on Zindra who do not advertise with the banned key words, but they are hidden from search based solely on location. I find this highly unfair as there are no banned keywords to traumatize unsuspecting seachers and those not verified can't get to the location anyway.

I have opened a JIRA asking that search be changed to not filter businesses based solely on location. This change would help a lot of businesses on Zindra who are hidden in pg/mature search based solely on location.

Please take a look and vote for this JIRA: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15746

Businesses on Zindra (some of which have no adult content) need your help to increase traffic and to save their business.


Please take a look and vote.

Thanks.

I am kind of disgusted with the whole situation, but I can't say I'm surprised either. Basically, adult business and public area owners who have complied with the policy have lost sales and traffic as a result. The rogues who refuse to comply are benefiting from increased business. I had a feeling it would work out this way, of course. Policies are nothing without an infrastructure to enforce them.

And it's not JUST about keywords in search and classifieds. This is the key phrase that gives LL total discretion in the matter: "we will broadly define what is 'sexually themed' to include any sexually oriented activities and conduct"

I looked at the Jira, Persian, but I do not agree with it. I believe that parcels on Adult regions should be filtered according to maturity rating in the client. But I ALSO believe that people with adult content should be penalized for having it on non-Adult sims, because that is the problem we're having right now.

I understand Wildefire. Thanks for looking. In a perfect SL, Adult parcels should be filtered. But if search is based on keywords, then those not using banned words should be allowed to be seen by all, regardless of location. Those conforming to new Adult policies are being harmed just for being "lawful."

That doesn't sound right. Last I heard, land on Zindra typically sold for more than Mature mainland.

You should be able to work an exchange for a profit.

adult policy ... not really well implementated..

when i look i recieved a mail from lindens threating me from ban if i did not more my store to an adult sim... what do i sell... kneeling animations, and clothing.... nothing sexual in it. so if i look at the adult rules nothing adult but mature as defined and i had set my store on mature land which shoudl have worked....

yet it did not... and this asside indeed you find BDSM clubs, sexual animations and furnitures sold in mature if not pg lands... this sucks big time. thanks to the forceful move my buisness ended up being Xstreet only because could nto afford plot on adult sims... and now with the fee on Xstreet i had to close down completly...

my competitor, who for half simply copied or hacked my animations and i am very thankful to lindens for their protection of individual creations, are for most still on mature land, had no warning nor were they forced to move with adult things while they do sell the same animations than i and when i mean the same the name of the creator is the only difference all the rest is the same. just a creator that is from 2007 or 2008 sometimes while my animations are from 2006.

so in the end...

well my content was copied and hacked, fee placed in addition to the percentage already token on sales... and now adult policy that is not being applied on every one..

Lindens way to tell small creators to close their doors.

As I understand it at this point the rule is simply that your parcel/items will only appear in adult searches if you have adult search-terms in their descriptions etc. This is all the rule does, it doesn't technically require anyone to remove adult content from mature sims, unless you want people using the search tool(s) to find it.

I expect though that at some point LL will make this more strict. Adult items in PG areas though should definitely be disallowed!

As long as they still allow adult content in mature sims that is reasonably out-of-the-way (so people can still have homes in mature sims) then I think this is a reasonable way to do it. Rather than suddenly leaping in and trying to impose strict rules from day one.

Check the names and search keywords.

Impressive...
I was reading your discussion, which is really good to follow, and make us, non business user's, understand a bit better your problems.
Adult have always seem to be a big bad Joke, but you are loosing money, and that's not good for Sl.
In your link, Argent, i was surprised to look at what is not ADULT word...
it give me/us a good feeling of what is considered as "bad words, adult, etc.." and what are ok ...
considering that these words are really ok, here is my 2 cents, about an authorised advert (off course, it's false, NO IM me, Silly !!!! I'm just in mild B/D/S/M , lol )
I told it again, I just try to make a sentence with "authorized word"
close your eyes if your under 26...
here we go :

a nice looking young girl picture, with that description :
"i'm a Slut Sub sissy loving to suck, swallow sperm, sodomy in asshole even impregnate, i like take it in the ass with a kidnap story, masturbate genitals while doing golden shower in a Gorean pervert necrophila way and throatfucking transexual people who torture me with extreme enema choke before execution to death for my dominant abduction . xx xxx l$ an hour "

that's just a small exemple , I'm sure it can be done a worse way.

I have also a question for all of you, owners : when you moved to Zindra, your old mainland remain empty, and often, all bookmarks are not redirected . That cause a lot of lost traffic.
why don't you add a big new landmark to your old empty place.
Ok, because it's forbidden or "not" possible...?
But, why "someone" didn't add a big landmark, I mean a 40x40 sqm landmark , or more, to your Zindra place ????
I have often to search for my old LM, find empty places, so I search for them, and I don't always found them, even if they exist now on Zindra.
I have seen a lot of "deserted" land, but nowhere the new landmark for the Zindra new place.
Why don't you fight about it ? your traffic belongs to you, you have moved, your customers should have a way to found you, even on a "deserted" land.
if someone can answer me.
Or is it because owners have decided to give up ?
sorry for these noob questions, and for my bad english

Representations of intensely violent acts, whether or not photo-realistic (for example, depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm) . I seen a lot of wrestling and other things show in search. Why can they be on mature sims when the WWE and the other feds out there said it violent. In fact here the link to there warning video on YOUTUBE.(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boLSLgS5cSg).

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If LL cannot or will no enforse their own policies...then they should stop making them.