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Ryou Yiyuan
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11-19-2008 10:15
Problem to log in and have acces at Grid statut page now.
If someone have same problem ?
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11-19-2008 11:54
[UPDATE 11:15am PST] - Logins are working intermittently, but most still cannot login. We are continuing to work on the ongoing network issues and will have further updates as they become available. Also, the website (secondlife.com) should now be working properly.
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Caballus McDonnell
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Drivers out of date !
11-19-2008 22:58
Your computer must meet these REQUIREMENTS, or you may not be able to successfully participate in Second Life.

Well my PC does meet the minimum requirements and have the latest drivers for my ATI AGP 3850 y have Pentium IV 3.0 GHZ and 1524 MB Memory so could you please tell me where the heck the problem is because my computer is fine. Linden Lab should make test with different hardware configurations before stating its compatible with ATI x3850 and so on. well thats it for now Im unable to use SL anymore


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you're on MS Server?....don't blame LL you can't play Second Life, read the requirements!


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Operating System: 2000, XP, or Vista XP or Vista

Computer Processor: 800 MHz Pentium III or Athlon, or better 1.5 GHz (XP), 2-GHz (Vista) 32-bit (x86) or better

Computer Memory: 512 MB or more 1 GB or more

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7000 Series:
7600, 7800, 7900
8000 Series:
8500, 8600, 8800
GeForce Go Series:
7600, 7800, 7900
ATI Graphics Cards

X800, X900, X1600, X1700, X1800, X1900
x2600, x2900
x3650, x3850


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OR ATI Radeon 9500 or better
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8000 Series:
8500, 8600, 8800
GeForce Go Series:
7600, 7800, 7900
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X1600, X1700, X1800, X1900
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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11-19-2008 23:23
Caballus, that was your first post. I don't think anyone was addressing you prior to your first post. You didn't provide complete system specs, or describe what problem you are having at all.

It's possible that having the latest drivers is the problem, seems like the latest drivers have been a problem seen often in the forums for months now for both nVidia and ATI cards.

I had to change from the latest ATI drivers to the very oldest driver in the ATI archives to fix a problem I was having.
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Tanner Mills
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12-09-2008 20:52
The problem is in the ATI 3850. I just dropped $150 bucks to have a "certified" vid card and quit blue screening and low and behold, I know have more problems than I started with. This is an ongoing, long existing problem with these ATI cards. They're on the certified list, so how is it the Lab won't get off their duffs and get this problem fixed. What a crock. Make a phone call to ATI Linden Labs.

BTW, I dropped back to 8.7 as the knowledge base suggested. Didn't do a thing. Guess I'll try the oldest driver available. Another ridiculous Linden situation that they leave you hanging in the breeze on.
Millicent Frog
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12-12-2008 08:42
From: Tanner Mills
The problem is in the ATI 3850. I just dropped $150 bucks to have a "certified" vid card and quit blue screening and low and behold, I know have more problems than I started with. This is an ongoing, long existing problem with these ATI cards. They're on the certified list, so how is it the Lab won't get off their duffs and get this problem fixed. What a crock. Make a phone call to ATI Linden Labs.

BTW, I dropped back to 8.7 as the knowledge base suggested. Didn't do a thing. Guess I'll try the oldest driver available. Another ridiculous Linden situation that they leave you hanging in the breeze on.


Linden Lab is in a bad way these days. They never really were smart enough to direct the resources necessary to development, instead directing far too much to sales and marketing. This is a pretty simple novice move and spells the ultimate demise of every single company that attempts it.

The new CEO seems to have precisely the same plan, though he seems to claim that its an entirely different plan.

The fact is, more and more corporations are pulling out of second life and almost no new ones are coming in. Its days are numbered, as I said from the very beginning when it was clear that not one person who had any potency over at Linden Lab actually knew what the hell they were doing.

It will never work any better than it does right now. Just keep that in mind.
Argent Stonecutter
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12-12-2008 08:51
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I've tried getting an older version but when you try to login it stops you and says you must get the 1.20.17 version .Ihave not been able to logon to SL since.
Right-click on the desktop shortcut and select properties. On the command line, change the argument after "--channel" to anything else. Then it will let you log in through that shortcut.
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12-12-2008 08:52
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What I have been told of Windows Server 2003 is that it is the same as XP but more stable and actually some of the default options in the registry are different.
I have not been able to install any software that requires 3d graphics acceleration on Windows Server 2003, myself.
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Bee Mizser
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12-13-2008 12:22
From: Millicent Frog
Linden Lab is in a bad way these days. They never really were smart enough to direct the resources necessary to development, instead directing far too much to sales and marketing. This is a pretty simple novice move and spells the ultimate demise of every single company that attempts it.

The new CEO seems to have precisely the same plan, though he seems to claim that its an entirely different plan.

The fact is, more and more corporations are pulling out of second life and almost no new ones are coming in. Its days are numbered, as I said from the very beginning when it was clear that not one person who had any potency over at Linden Lab actually knew what the hell they were doing.

It will never work any better than it does right now. Just keep that in mind.


For someone who has been around 1 month.........

Companies are leaving SL because of the economic situation. Lets see you are getting less income, you cut back...
Millicent Frog
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12-15-2008 07:46
From: Bee Mizser
For someone who has been around 1 month.........

Companies are leaving SL because of the economic situation. Lets see you are getting less income, you cut back...


Really? That's not what I keep hearing -- and have been hearing for the last three years at the trade shows. Its also not what I've heard from two clients who bailed out well before the bailouts started.

Its because second life has no *point*. The people in it aren't interested in going to BEST BUY island or IBM land. One well known CEO put it beautifully:

"Having a presence in second life is like having a presence in the back of the bottom shelf of a refrigerator on the set of a porn shoot"

I think that says it all.

And, that's really adorable that you assume that one person always and only has one avatar, ever.
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12-15-2008 08:43
From: Millicent Frog


Its because second life has no *point*. The people in it aren't interested in going to BEST BUY island or IBM land. One well known CEO put it beautifully:

"Having a presence in second life is like having a presence in the back of the bottom shelf of a refrigerator on the set of a porn shoot"


Lol. I like that. Bravo.
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12-15-2008 09:15
From: Millicent Frog
"Having a presence in second life is like having a presence in the back of the bottom shelf of a refrigerator on the set of a porn shoot"
If you stock your presence in SL with the kinds of things most companies seem to... namely overpriced unscripted (or generically scripted) prim copies of their RL products... then they're likely to get shoved into the back of the bottom shelf of the refrigerator.

If a company was going to have "a presence" in your city, would you pay more attention to them if they set up a trade show booth in an unmarked storefront in the warehouse district, or if they were to sponsor the local ball club? If you go to trade shows, are you more likely to pick up a shirt with a company logo on it, or a cardboard cut-out of a computer? When you go shopping, do you pay attention to the stores around you, or do you pay attention to the fliers pinned to the noticeboard?

There's all kinds of things people already doing business in SL do to get noticed. I don't think I've seen any RL companies bother even trying. That go and buy a sim and expect people to go there, without advertising them, without setting up satellite stores, without getting involved in in-world advertising campaigns like the current Peace On Earth freebie hunt. Is it any wonder they fail?
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Millicent Frog
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12-19-2008 21:37
From: Argent Stonecutter
If you stock your presence in SL with the kinds of things most companies seem to... namely overpriced unscripted (or generically scripted) prim copies of their RL products... then they're likely to get shoved into the back of the bottom shelf of the refrigerator.

If a company was going to have "a presence" in your city, would you pay more attention to them if they set up a trade show booth in an unmarked storefront in the warehouse district, or if they were to sponsor the local ball club? If you go to trade shows, are you more likely to pick up a shirt with a company logo on it, or a cardboard cut-out of a computer? When you go shopping, do you pay attention to the stores around you, or do you pay attention to the fliers pinned to the noticeboard?

There's all kinds of things people already doing business in SL do to get noticed. I don't think I've seen any RL companies bother even trying. That go and buy a sim and expect people to go there, without advertising them, without setting up satellite stores, without getting involved in in-world advertising campaigns like the current Peace On Earth freebie hunt. Is it any wonder they fail?


Here's the part thats unfortunate for everyone concerned, including you and me:

Any company that would have been a remotely possible sale two years ago stopped reading your reply at "presence".

The fact is, to this day LL has yet to show definitive evidence that having a corporate presence of *any* type that's been tried thus far is lucrative for anyone's business apart from LLs, and then its only marginal, and only occasionally.

This falls square on the shoulders of the CEO. We all watched Yahoo slip into named irrelevancy over the last five years or so, bad decision after bad decision, far more capital spent on advertising schemes than on developing an amazing product, etc. LL is doing it in the same way--they decided who their customers are and what they like six years ago and have never changed their minds about that.

This is where a little real, true innovation would be quite a huge deal and probably very effective. I mean a really, truly valuable, unique idea that helps everyone in a real way and immensely. That seems like the kind of thing that they should spend a few dollars on.

When Apple did it at a time of stagnation, the iPod happened.

So lets see your iPod, LL. And you'd better hurry up, because you're running on an egg timer at this point.
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12-20-2008 06:50
From: Millicent Frog
Any company that would have been a remotely possible sale two years ago stopped reading your reply at "presence".
OK, I'll make it simpler:

SETTING UP AN ISLAND AND STOCKING IT WITH POINTLESS PRIM ADVERTISING IS STUPID. IF YOU DID THAT AND NOBODY CAME, THAT'S ON YOU.

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We all watched Yahoo slip into named irrelevancy over the last five years or so, bad decision after bad decision, far more capital spent on advertising schemes than on developing an amazing product, etc.
Yahoo's problem is that they started out with a "product" that was labor-intensive to maintain. Instead of concentrating on what they could make money on, search, they tried to make all the stuff that google does "on the side" the centerpiece of their product. They bought companies that were doing things that had nothing to do with Yahoo's business, and didn't even bother to integrate them. They DID spend an enormous amount on the product, both in acquisitions and in internal development, but they spent the money on the wrong damn product... the whole doomed "portal" model.

Linden Labs might not be making all the right decisions, but they're definitely NOT making the same mistakes as Yahoo.
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Millicent Frog
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12-29-2008 07:06
From: Argent Stonecutter
OK, I'll make it simpler:

SETTING UP AN ISLAND AND STOCKING IT WITH POINTLESS PRIM ADVERTISING IS STUPID. IF YOU DID THAT AND NOBODY CAME, THAT'S ON YOU.

Yahoo's problem is that they started out with a "product" that was labor-intensive to maintain. Instead of concentrating on what they could make money on, search, they tried to make all the stuff that google does "on the side" the centerpiece of their product. They bought companies that were doing things that had nothing to do with Yahoo's business, and didn't even bother to integrate them. They DID spend an enormous amount on the product, both in acquisitions and in internal development, but they spent the money on the wrong damn product... the whole doomed "portal" model.

Linden Labs might not be making all the right decisions, but they're definitely NOT making the same mistakes as Yahoo.


Yes, they are, and now they can't find ANY buyers. At least Yahoo can still continue to exist through the reaving that theyre about to get from microsoft. No one wants to reave Linden Labs. They STILL have yet to demonstrate to anyone that any aspect of it belongs anywhere in any business or marketing model.

How long has it been since beta? Six years? I'd think that's more than a long enough time to come up with some kind of explanation, eh?

Well, lindens? Anyone?
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12-29-2008 07:10
From: Argent Stonecutter
OK, I'll make it simpler:

SETTING UP AN ISLAND AND STOCKING IT WITH POINTLESS PRIM ADVERTISING IS STUPID. IF YOU DID THAT AND NOBODY CAME, THAT'S ON YOU.



And argent dear, I'm not talking about some pinheaded get-rich-quick-scheme that draws the same fools to second life that wander out of mega-churches in a daze, heading their enormous (yet strangely small) families to the nearest Dairy Queen to fill up on a variety of products made from cow effluvia.

I'm talking about companies like Best Buy, Sony, you know. The ones with the very beautiful, but completely empty sims that serve no purpose whatsoever, that close one by one as whatever IT manager that thought it was a good idea to do a "second life project" gets canned when no one can remember why they got hired in the first place. Its happening, believe it.

Its pretty awful actually, and im not surprised LL is entirely silent on the subject. But hey, enjoy playing CSI!
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12-29-2008 08:11
From: Millicent Frog
Yes, they are, and now they can't find ANY buyers.
You have evidence that Linden Labs is trying to sell out?

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How long has it been since beta? Six years? I'd think that's more than a long enough time to come up with some kind of explanation, eh?
Explanation for what?

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I'm talking about companies like Best Buy, Sony, you know. The ones with the very beautiful, but completely empty sims that serve no purpose whatsoever,
OK, you've completely confused me. What are you getting at?

I wrote: "SETTING UP AN ISLAND AND STOCKING IT WITH POINTLESS PRIM ADVERTISING IS STUPID. IF YOU DID THAT AND NOBODY CAME, THAT'S ON YOU."

Your response, referring to "very beautiful, but completely empty sims that serve no purpose whatsoever", seems to be agreeing with me, but your whole message is phrased as if you think I'm mistaken about something.

Yes, I'm talking about the same beautiful but pointless sims full of prim advertising that you're talking about. If Sony or Best Buy came to Houston and bought a lot south of the Astrodome and built something like the kinds of corporate sims I've seen companies build in SL, they'd be a laughingstock. You don't move into in a real life city that way, why would you imagine that SL would be any different?
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