[please sign] LL get rid of current traffic system.

We the undersigned ask Linden Lab to remove or redesign the current traffic system as it gives false readings and misinformation about a sims popularity.

Because traffic is set up in a manner which allows traffic numbers to be raised by setting out camping pads and other means other places of interests are being driven under in the search engine keeping people from finding these places of interest. It is not uncommon to do a search for roleplay or any number of key words and get places that have little or nothing to do with those. We believe these places hurt real creative and well thought out places by covering them 3 pages back in search or worse. They also give Second Life a bad image for new users that SL is more about orgies, sex and malls than it's about meeting others, being creative and finding new ideas on life. Cut out the traffic system entirely or find a way for it to work based on other merits or even have options for besides mature or not mature such as community, roleplay and other ways places that are just for sales and sex can't use so we can find things easier.


Emily Darrow

It's a well repeated complaint, but what can be used instead?

Remember, if you use something over which users have control, unscrupulous users will always control it to put themselves at the top.

Um, they're already working on a revision to traffic and stuff, within a larger reworking of Search.

Mari

Yeah I did a search for traffic on the forums but didn't find anything on trying to change it. Might be so far back it would take hour to find reading every post with traffic on the key word?

Although the current system has been gamed to the point of being not very useful, I do the traffic and "popular" concepts.

Consider me signed but I'd like to see the system continue in some form that's less easy to game with camping devices.

From the Cory Linden Town Hall, May 3rd: (http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/03/transcript-cory-linden-town-hall/)

I think they should replace it with a rating system. Everyone that visits somewhere has to rate it up to 5 stars and can only do it once EVER.

Of course this could mean places would give away money for votes...but if it was done in the search window instead of any in-world deal then maybe it would deter store owners from faking the numbers since they have no way to know who had voted and who hadn't.

I personally didn't mind the traffic system that much. I knew that most of the ridiculously high rated areas were corny and/or full of campers anyway! I tend to put my search results in order of least popular to most popular and move accordingly.

Also, the picture for your search entry speaks volumes more than any traffic!

Scrapping the traffic system is a needed step, but the elitism expressed by the OP would keep me from supporting her plan.

But then a place could start out great (everyone gives 5 stars) and then go to crap and would still have a high rating.

Traffic should be removed

-Becuase the long term gaming of this metric has made it meaningless.
-Becuase the way that it is gamed is detrimental to the performance of individual sims and the grid.
-Becuase it makes placement in Both the classifieds and the Places Listing based on money spent only.


There shoudlnt be any judgement calls on other Resident's content involved.

From the Cory Town Hall, December 20th 2006 (http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/12/20/town-hall-with-cory-introductory-transcript/):According to the time scheduele announced then, the new search should have been rolled out by now ("We are in the early technical and interface design period on search, but expect to be hearing more about it in Q1 2007 with a goal of rolling new search in Q2". Don't hold your breath.

Or vice versa, starts out crap but then gets nicely landscaped but is forever labelled with a 1 star tag.

Ive been working on a 3rd party solution to the problem for some time...... I hope to reveal it soon, but seeing as how the built in search is apparently being redesigned, perhaps I should halt development.



Would any of you welcome a 3rd party search?

I think the traffic figure should be the number of people who actually visit the parcel, not based on time spent. This would make camping chairs etc null and void plus gives a truer reading.

And so we enter the era of the "Point-to-Point-Teleport-Bot."

Any traffic system anyone's ever suggested will be gamed. Whatever they do I hope it is some kind of number, some understandable metric- because those numbers serve several purposes to legitimate business owners, regardless of what more unscrupulous people do with them.

absolutely true - thats why I think we should move to a system that is gamed in real life already and people know to avoid -

Alphabetical.

People are already lond accostomed to avoiding all the "aaaaaaa" stuff.

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If you've seen any of the common rating setups on the internet (anything from newegg.com to slexchange.com) you'd know that it's not just 5 star ratings. It's an average figured out by the amount of people that have voted as well as the rating they gave.

It could still be gamed up but really, any interractive system to indicate something's quality/popularity is going to have that problem.

Because people with money dont need to camp.
Apart from that they go to other places with an equal frequency as everyone else so it would still give an accurate portrayal of which places attract people.

Heh, all of these ideas my implementation supports....

If only I were a faster php debugger

NOT signed.

I like traffic.

coco

I was under the impression LL was working on a better system that had many factors. I guess time will tell.

I dont understand why .. since we dont even have personal ratings anymore - there is a need for land ratings, or metrics of any kind.

Traffic is going away, and so is the ad farms.

Why the ad farms?

coco