Are We Going To Be Reimbursed For Lindens Spent On Ratings?

Just curious, since the ratings were done away with, who got the money that I spent on all the ratings I gave. And since they were taken away, am I going to get that money back?

Thanks!



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Rusty sorta says it all, in a way they were paid IM's, sorta like Western Union. And they were sent, so I guess I got the services I paid for.

Thanks, question answered.

Stay safe and have a Magical night!

I posted this on the SL forums a few days ago and got into a flame war and the thread was locked.

LL never said either way if we get our monies back.

Many of the know it all forum monitor wannabes and blogoholics tried to cite LL blog entries but I didn't see anything addressing reimbursements either way.

My guess is the Linden plan is to ignore people wanting refunds until those people give up asking for them.

I could be wrong ... But its seemed to quiet most of them so far.

Yup, I think you are right. There is little evidence I can find of people getting refunds from Linden Labs for *any* reason, which would seem to lend a bit of credibility to that theory.

As for me, I figure it's pretty damned pointless to get all riled up about what amounts to maybe (at most) 50USD spent over a year's time. Big deal.



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Give me 7500$L then. No big deal right?

I paid $6.00 for a hamburger. I ate it and now it's gone. Since I don't have my hamburger anymore, I demand I get a refund! A perfectly reasonable request.

I recommend that everyone who expects a refund for ratings... hold your breath until you get it.

Yes but a hamburger is expected to have a lifespan of a few minutes after purchase, ratings were expected to have more permanence; otherwise, why bother?

That's what I always said about the ratings in any case...Why bother?

well yer, there is that too. lol.

i always told people not to rate me. when buying land once on a private estate, i had to wait a long time for an agent to arrive and arrange the sale, so i teleported several friends over for a chat until he turned up. when he finally got there and sorted things out, he gave us all 75L each and asked us to rate him. any morsel of signicance ratings previously had just evaporated for me at that point.

if we ever do get refunds, i bet that guy will be accosting a lot of people

My laugh of the day..thanks.

Ratings were only temporary. They went away after a few months.


You aren't getting your money back. Nor should you.

Financially, your are right, it's no big deal. On the other hand, you are irritating and antagonistic, so... No.



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Ratings went away after over three years.

it's a good job i neither asked for, nor expected this then.

In the beginning... (where I'm concerned, and in no particular order)...

Ratings were cheap, permanent, and either positive OR negative.
Stipend bonuses were given for recently received and total ratings.

New residents complained they couldn't compete with old residents.

Old residents complained bitterly about the handful of negative ratings
that griefers slapped onto them.

Rating parties caused lag and gamed the system.

Negative ratings went away.

Ratings were made to expire over time (lasted anywhere from a month to
a few months, I was never certain).

Rating prices ?quintrupled?.

Stipend bonuses for ratings vanished.

The High Scores Rankings that showed top-rated (and top-other things) vanished.

Ratings were kept around as a sinkhole to eat lindens with no other purpose but vanity.



It has been nothing more than an expensive way to send IM's for a long time.

Your mesages were delivered, your fees paid. There are no refunds.

Rusty sorta says it all, in a way they were paid IM's, sorta like Western Union. And they were sent, so I guess I got the services I paid for.

Thanks, question answered.

Stay safe and have a Magical night!

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I thought ratings went away after three MONTHS? I recall an outcry when they went from permanent to timed. Nobody got their money then, either.


Bah, wrong avatar starting with W. Directed at OP, whatever the name was.

What I find irritating are people that decide what monetary amount is worth getting riled up about. I see this as a snobbish little dig by someone that really has nothing else to offer to these forums. The request for me has nothing to do with the actual dollar amount. Likely just one of many concepts that you are incapable of comprehending.

Fact is LL took monies for the rating system they developed. They removed the ratings from the bios even though every rate was paid for. People that participated in the program good or bad should receive their L$ back as a result. L$ is not real cash for LL so this won't cause any finical burden to LL or anyone else.

I expect anybody that has a problem with a refund is just being a dickhead for the sake of being a dickhead because they most likely have nothing invested in the ratings system to begin with.

"Fact is" linden lab doesn't have the money you paid them to increase someone's rating.

They sold them on the lindex.

Do I want the L$10,000 or more that I spent in ratings back? Sure?

But I'm not confusing "want" with "deserve" here.

That money is as gone as the postage on last year's christmas cards.

can somebody explain this? i'm not the sharpest tool in the box, so maybe i am misunderstanding, but as I understand it the ratings displayed in our profile had been there for three years at least (i can find discussions regarding their implementation dating back to 2003). granted, their function changed and they became more about vanity than anything else, but i've been in SL a year this week, and that's the only way i've known them to be.

what's a 'timed rating' for example?

i realise a person who rated you could pay another L$25 to remove that rating, but that was pretty rare. i was talking about the "rating system" not being perceived as temporary .. not individual rates.

come now, the Lindex is a license to print money .. and that is exactly what they do.

this is probably more about LL not keeping adequate transaction records with regards ratings given.

As ratings, like everything else to do with a platform game like SL, takes money to run and support.. ratings was just another revenue earner supposed to fund itself.. (Hamburger senerio)... ppls complain about lag, ratings cause some overhead.. cheap solution remove it, so no one pays into a system no longer available. We all may have paid into it... but it isn't a bank fund.

I suspect that they eventually abandoned the "ratings expire after a period of time", likely because making that system work required a lot of tracking and processing, and, as you suggested in the next post, they had trouble tracking transactions. Perhaps.


I do know that for a period of time I could re-rate people that I knew I had rated previously, not because ratings were lost accidentally, but because more than a month or three had transpired and the system was meant to work that way.

Curiously, it seemed to only expire ratings if you logged in.

If you were inactive since before the expiration code went into effect you could log in and still have all your ratings, but over the next few weeks they'd whittle down.

Anyway. As I've said elsewhere, ratings and traffic were the two last utterly arbitrary game systems of secondlife, that cause people to do irrational things just to get their numbers up. Things that place an unnecessary burden on secondlife. I would have rather seen traffic killed first... but oh well.

You paid to GIVE the rating.


You got what you paid for. The rating WAS given.


You deserve no refund.