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Weedy Herbst
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Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
08-31-2006 22:04
From: Dragon Keen
a) never did

From: Dragon Keen
your a land swooper? thanks for pointing that out


Interesting. So what you are saying is, that I accused myself of being a land swooper? So all the personal attacks on me which followed were unwarranted?

From: Dragon Keen
b) yes your a troll - read the definition at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll


This is a determination for LL, not you. I check my mail regularly and have never been disciplined for "trolling" as you wrongly accuse.

From: Dragon Keen
c) huh?


From: Dragon Keen
Your like a nice infestation on a beautiful green lawn. You find a spot, and put your disease anywhere you can


That is you, wrongly accusing me of being diseased. What information to you have to support this? You are unable to remember your own words on a previous page.


From: Dragon Keen
d) notice no one else is replying to you?


Thats not what I said. I asked you, who you claim to represent by your blanket attack.

From: Dragon Keen
e) umm... clueless


Hardly a reply to catching you and your cronies for baiting. I realize your initial excuse was lame, so I can see why you won't implicate LL again in something, where you were the perpetrator.

From: Dragon Keen
f) thats not a personal attack, its an opinion


That's not a presonal opinion, because you have absolutely no idea about my mental age or personal history and it was a direct ad hominem, intent on derailing your own situation as it stands.

From: Dragon Keen
g) if you were smart, you'd realize that site doesnt keep tabs on you, like i said, i dont care about you or what land you own. I have land details on over 1300 sims, 11,442 parcel owners, and 18,826 plots of land. It doesnt target you. Your not worth the trouble


Again, you have absolutely no right to question my lucidity or intelligence to make you point. That is a personal attack and little else.

From: Dragon Keen
h) you do own an object on those 16's of yours anyone can plainly see. Can also plainly see its a scripted object - those are facts.


These are not the facts I am quoting you on. You wrongly accused me of having laggy scripts and and wrongly accused me of my intentions for group land usage.

From: Dragon Keen
i) I have a chatlog proving that one wrong. and you PERSONALLY didnt change anything, LL was redesigning the land sale system well before your crusade.


No such chatlog exists. I have plainly told you (and others) that I have had co-respondence with LL about land swooping issues and I have contributed them via email, PMs and in world chats. This in no way implies special treatment. All it is, is your desperate attemtp to defame me (in yet another false way) for catching and reporting you for misdeeds, which is my right and highly encouraged by LL staff.

You cannot change black to white Dragon. Your reputation as a land swooper is well known and your attempts to defame me with lies and accusations, reflects badly on you.....not me.
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
08-31-2006 22:10
From: Dragon Keen
get off my thread... get a life.... eat a horse


You have no right to tell me what to do, particularily where and when I can post. This is not "your" thread and you have no right to snub my right to speak.

Also, you have no right to make real life judgments on my behalf. Gee, I seem to remember you joining a group I belong to for the soul purpose of griefing me about real life issues. You and your friend were booted in an instant and abuse reported promptly by others.
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Coyote Momiji
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Join date: 13 Aug 2006
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08-31-2006 22:41
Dude, this is better than Pong!
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Takuan Daikon
choppy choppy!
Join date: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 305
08-31-2006 22:53
From: Coyote Momiji
Dude, this is better than Pong!


I suppose it is somewhat entertaining, but I have to agree with others that this can be assumed to be a large part of the reason that the Forums are being closed.

Thread starts off with one topic, troll comes in to throw around personal hate and carry on a crusade, thread is no longer even remotely about original topic.

I'd love to attempt to bring it back on target by presenting my idea, but I'm a scripter not a builder. Sorry Dragon. Best I can do is I guess point out the obvious ;)

[Edit] And kudos for at least *attempting* to get something better than the ubiquitous and bland "for sale" blocks.
nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,146
08-31-2006 23:14
From: Weedy Herbst
You have no right to tell me what to do, particularily where and when I can post. This is not "your" thread and you have no right to snub my right to speak.

Nope, it's not his thread, it's "our" thread, a public one. And you are derailing it and it will get locked soon.
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Weedy Herbst
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08-31-2006 23:39
From: nimrod Yaffle
Nope, it's not his thread, it's "our" thread, a public one. And you are derailing it and it will get locked soon.


I didn't derail it. I made a suggestion, based on his business history... two words. Dragon derailed his own thread with false accusations and personal attacks.
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
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09-01-2006 00:11
From: Weedy Herbst
I didn't derail it. I made a suggestion, based on his business history... two words. Dragon derailed his own thread with false accusations and personal attacks.

You knew very well what you were doing when you posted that. Did you think it would be a positive contribution?
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,760
09-01-2006 00:22
From: Coyote Momiji
Dude, this is better than Pong!


Nothing is better than the simple joy that is Pong. Blip. Blip.
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Phedre Aquitaine
I am the zombie queen
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,157
09-01-2006 00:27
I know of a couple things that are better than Pong, actually.
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,760
09-01-2006 00:57
From: Phedre Aquitaine
I know of a couple things that are better than Pong, actually.


Look, we'll have a game, I'll prove it to you. Ready?



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Blip.
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Zarithi Federko
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Join date: 15 Aug 2006
Posts: 22
09-01-2006 02:38
Alright just to throw my 0.2 cents into this discussion. I have had run-ins with land scams in game and land scammers. However when I was looking to sell some plots that I had I contacted Dragon Keen (through IM) along with other agents I could find who buy land to see if they were interested.

Dragon Keen made a fair offer on my land...although it wasn't enough for me...wanted to get a little more for it. Then when I turned his offer down he was kind enough to give me a run through on how he would price and a good lay of the land in relation to Real Estate. He didn't have to do any of that...it didn't benefit him at all. He just helped me out.

This thread seriously is disappointing I came on it to find out about the contest and instead I see someone completely derailing...Weedy just shut up!

Dragon Keen...good luck on the comp. I would enter if I could.
Dragon Keen
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Join date: 24 Apr 2006
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09-01-2006 03:31
heh thanks guys.... damn happy some people DO have common sense

Im not even gonna reply anymore to the posts, because 1) it doesnt make an impact, and 2) no matter what I say even though it'll make sense to normal people it wont to her

even though I know better than to respond to Weedys comments, it just makes me so angry that someone with such a lack of common sense can openly bash me and others with absolutely no reguard for anything. Trying to play off her "suggestion" as on topic. HA. I deal with a lot of people on a daily bases, here and in RL. Its truly SCARY the absolute lack of common sense 99% of the people have... and those people of course have to talk the loudest about something they dont know much about.

For fun I had to re-read the post she commented about on SC and came to the quick realization that no one cared over there either about the thread, because the conversation quickly stopped her in her tracks to any reader with half a brain.

fuck that... post all you want weedy... since it never sinks in to you, I'm putting you back on mute on the forums and when I read what everyone else replies about in response to a post of yours I'll just laugh, and thank them for having at least an 8th grade education. Perhaps for all the drama you LOVE to create.. perhaps you should be on the Teen Grid?

thanks for posting Zarithi, your surely didnt have to. I'm glad i could help you, as i'm glad to help anyone who asks me something. Unfortunately some people are just in antaganize mode all the time and dont care to listen to anything else but themselves. Its fine is SHE thinks i have a bad reputation... because from the people I talk to and BS with on a daily basis, I know I dont.

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Back to the topic at hand, not like it's gonna get read now

3 days left in the build contest. And no, Nimrod didnt enter with his 40meter school desk :)
Dragon Keen
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Join date: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 245
09-01-2006 03:40
From: Lost Newcomb
How many prims should it be?


doesnt matter Lost, just try to keep it somewhat low.
Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
09-01-2006 05:53
From: Dragon Keen
heh thanks guys.... damn happy some people DO have common sense

Im not even gonna reply anymore to the posts, because 1) it doesnt make an impact, and 2) no matter what I say even though it'll make sense to normal people it wont to her

even though I know better than to respond to Weedys comments, it just makes me so angry that someone with such a lack of common sense can openly bash me and others with absolutely no reguard for anything. Trying to play off her "suggestion" as on topic. HA. I deal with a lot of people on a daily bases, here and in RL. Its truly SCARY the absolute lack of common sense 99% of the people have... and those people of course have to talk the loudest about something they dont know much about.

For fun I had to re-read the post she commented about on SC and came to the quick realization that no one cared over there either about the thread, because the conversation quickly stopped her in her tracks to any reader with half a brain.

fuck that... post all you want weedy... since it never sinks in to you, I'm putting you back on mute on the forums and when I read what everyone else replies about in response to a post of yours I'll just laugh, and thank them for having at least an 8th grade education. Perhaps for all the drama you LOVE to create.. perhaps you should be on the Teen Grid?

thanks for posting Zarithi, your surely didnt have to. I'm glad i could help you, as i'm glad to help anyone who asks me something. Unfortunately some people are just in antaganize mode all the time and dont care to listen to anything else but themselves. Its fine is SHE thinks i have a bad reputation... because from the people I talk to and BS with on a daily basis, I know I dont.

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Back to the topic at hand, not like it's gonna get read now

3 days left in the build contest. And no, Nimrod didnt enter with his 40meter school desk :)



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Ricky Newcomb
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Join date: 1 Sep 2006
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09-01-2006 07:21
From: Dragon Keen
I'm glad i could help you, as i'm glad to help anyone who asks me something.


Dragon Keen is a liar. My sister had land stolen by this guy. She joined a small lot which was for sale and for some reason Dragon had some kind of script or something because within seconds he stole her land. My sister has lupus and lives on a pension and second life was a chance for her to take her mind off of her suffering and dance and have fun with friends. Both of us pleaded with him to return the land but all we got from him was some babble about Lindens having no value but she paid alot of money for that land almost two hundred dollars. He called some friends who made even bigger scene by calling names they bought the land from him while they laughed at her as he sold it for 38000 more Lindens than what he paid my sister which was 1500. The Linden company should fix this problem because they did nothing.

She cancelled her account because of this. I don't care if I get banned either because second life is full of scammers like Dragon keen and Wrestling Bulky
Zarithi Federko
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Join date: 15 Aug 2006
Posts: 22
09-01-2006 09:22
Ricky...then I must have mental problems...because you are saying he lied about helping me. But I distinctly remember him doing so in a very helpful and open way. So please tell me how he lied about helping me, when I know he did??? I'm sorry that you feel that your sister got scammed from her land it does happen, yes. The one thing I have seen and learned however is that almost every situation has two or more sides to the story. So instead of more drama let's let it rest and let this thread be what it is, a contest thread for a sign.
Dennis Bertone
Whitewater Nutcase
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 164
09-01-2006 12:00
From: Ricky Newcomb
My sister had land stolen by this guy.



your not alone...

Funny, after 1.12 update I started playing a little game on some of my private estates, Land Swoopers could not determine if land for sale was on private or mainland sims..so setting lots to sale for 1L would bring quite a few noteable land swoopers to the telehub...lol. I got a nice list of names for addition to ban lists :)

Maybe I'll host an event..."launch the land swooper" on one of the pvp sims..
Dragon Keen
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Join date: 24 Apr 2006
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09-01-2006 14:17
From: Dennis Bertone
your not alone...

Funny, after 1.12 update I started playing a little game on some of my private estates, Land Swoopers could not determine if land for sale was on private or mainland sims..so setting lots to sale for 1L would bring quite a few noteable land swoopers to the telehub...lol. I got a nice list of names for addition to ban lists :)

Maybe I'll host an event..."launch the land swooper" on one of the pvp sims..


lol.... ok if it was estate land... exactly HOW would you swoop estate land? Its rental/lease property anyway.

2nd yes, after the update, mainland real estate agents TP'd a lot to estate land sales... who cares. I bet you had a lot of average players arrive as well.... since it took a few days to realize what was going on.

Personally I TP to estate land to read the covenants. I have no interest in buying estate land, and TPing to a L$1 plot I know if its estate before I TP to it (most people do check the map first now to see where its at)

Anyway your post isnt related to the thread, if you'd like, start a new thread about your "launch the land swooper" in the land and economy area... and I wish you luck with your game, I'm positive it will end with many ARs filed
Wrestling Hulka
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Join date: 9 Apr 2006
Posts: 114
09-01-2006 14:37
From: Ricky Newcomb
She cancelled her account because of this. I don't care if I get banned either because second life is full of scammers like Dragon keen and Wrestling Bulky


Hey get my name right! Bad publicity is still publicity.
Dragon Keen
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Join date: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 245
09-01-2006 14:39
From: Wrestling Hulka
Hey get my name right! Bad publicity is still publicity.


ROFL

damn dude you beat me to it
Dragon Keen
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09-01-2006 14:45
From: Zarithi Federko
Ricky...then I must have mental problems...because you are saying he lied about helping me. But I distinctly remember him doing so in a very helpful and open way. So please tell me how he lied about helping me, when I know he did??? I'm sorry that you feel that your sister got scammed from her land it does happen, yes. The one thing I have seen and learned however is that almost every situation has two or more sides to the story. So instead of more drama let's let it rest and let this thread be what it is, a contest thread for a sign.


haha nice. oh and hey ricky... i never laugh at anyone when I buy land, so ya every side does have 2 stories. Normally if I buy something under market value and its politely asked to be returned I will return it... I cant recall the circumstances of any "deal" since theirs no specifics of who i bought from but I'm sure my reasoning was sound (maybe not to anyone but me).

ricky, in case you've been under a rock, 1.12 was specifically designed to prevent the so called swooping problem making the sell menu even MORE retard-safe... but unfortunatly people STILL DO sell their mainland public land for L$1 somehow.... perhaps they are blind or something. Na thats not the reason.... the reason is people hate to read and pay attention to what they're doing.
Dennis Bertone
Whitewater Nutcase
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 164
09-01-2006 15:07
From: Dragon Keen
lol.... ok if it was estate land... exactly HOW would you swoop estate land? Its rental/lease property anyway.

2nd yes, after the update, mainland real estate agents TP'd a lot to estate land sales... who cares. I bet you had a lot of average players arrive as well.... since it took a few days to realize what was going on.

Personally I TP to estate land to read the covenants. I have no interest in buying estate land, and TPing to a L$1 plot I know if its estate before I TP to it (most people do check the map first now to see where its at)

Anyway your post isnt related to the thread, if you'd like, start a new thread about your "launch the land swooper" in the land and economy area... and I wish you luck with your game, I'm positive it will end with many ARs filed



Did you read the post? I never said it was estate land or anything about the land that was swooped (which was mainland, was set for sale by mistake by a new friend that a certain keen person was reluctant to return after being told of the mistake) What I said was that I used my estate land as a game to play with land swoopers ;) And no, they weren't average...they were people who used scripts to find the land... As soon as the land was set...poof, there you are...lmao. It was quite entertaining actually.

As far as ar's...teleporting into a combat sim runs you the risk of being shot...maybe you should configure your scripts to warn you before tp'ing to a pvp enabled sim.

And yes, my post is not related to the original topic of this thread, but it seems the thread took a little change of pace eh? People should know who to be weary of...
Dragon Keen
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09-01-2006 15:24
From: Dennis Bertone
Did you read the post? I never said it was estate land or anything about the land that was swooped (which was mainland, was set for sale by mistake by a new friend that a certain keen person was reluctant to return after being told of the mistake) What I said was that I used my estate land as a game to play with land swoopers ;) And no, they weren't average...they were people who used scripts to find the land... As soon as the land was set...poof, there you are...lmao. It was quite entertaining actually.

As far as ar's...teleporting into a combat sim runs you the risk of being shot...maybe you should configure your scripts to warn you before tp'ing to a pvp enabled sim.

And yes, my post is not related to the original topic of this thread, but it seems the thread took a little change of pace eh? People should know who to be weary of...


be weary of? lol

anywho... umm... show me a SCRIPT thats used to buy land, and show it to me right now. For people like you, who actually have no knowledge of what your talking about, its IMPOSSIBLE to use a script to search for land.

Let me educate you since your clueless on how the world works. the instant you list land for sale, it shows up in the search menu... instantly. Yes people do sit there and refresh their search screen. Theirs no script that does that... again that is IMPOSSIBLE, plain and simple fact. Ask a linden, ask another land baron, ask your priest... they'll all tell you the same. See the fact of the matter is land price is not able to be scripted (for the exact REASON of preventing scripts to auto-buy or auto-find land)

Please, if your going to argue a point with me... at least get your facts in order. Yes, because land is my business I know more about the land system than you, or any other average user. However, to think a script is involved when you have no evidence, and are just guessing... thats kind of a reach isnt it? As soon as you find the mentioned script let me know I'll buy a copy. Or even better... write a script to do it, or locate a well known scripter and just ask simply if its possible.

I didnt realize or read that you planned on using a PvP sim. Fine and dandy then, and I wish you luck. However, if your planning on using a mainland sim for yor fun... plan on your land ACTUALLY being bought by the swooper your attempting to catch... and if it is by chance ME... watch me laugh since I know you were doing it on purpose, and yes I'll keep it so its a lesson learned to you. Baiting land is just as bad as swooping, especially if you lost the land in a sale, then whined about it in the forums ;) ANd if your gonna use estate land to do it... dont expect mainland real estate folks to show up anymore... it was old news after the first hour... we expect to see L$1 estate land now :)
Daaneth Kivioq
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Join date: 11 Jan 2006
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09-01-2006 16:03
You know, this is bloody ridiculous,

All you folx b*tch*ng about land swoopers, please take it somewhere else. And if there are any resmod's out here, please delete all the posts in this thread that are NOT about the contest (including this one).

*SHEESH*
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Dragon Keen
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Join date: 24 Apr 2006
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09-01-2006 16:16
From: Daaneth Kivioq
You know, this is bloody ridiculous,

All you folx b*tch*ng about land swoopers, please take it somewhere else. And if there are any resmod's out here, please delete all the posts in this thread that are NOT about the contest (including this one).

*SHEESH*


I dont think any are around... havent responded to my requests either...

anywho

Come check out the entries thus far at Nimrod Yaffle 230,140 the entries are coming in daily... take a look around, IM me with which one you like if you want and take part in the voting
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