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SenCas: I'm Sorry

Cristiano Midnight
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09-02-2006 18:41
From: Mulch Ennui


but we all know who really runs the show in the majority of cases... who have the real power.. from the very start


Behind every great man, there is Cory Edo. I won't say what she's doing back there though.
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Margaret Mfume
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09-02-2006 18:42
From: Mulch Ennui
great analogy, but i just love when you play hard to get!

:D

Hey, I'll be right back after I go to the ladies room.

*exits out the back door*
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Mulch Ennui
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09-02-2006 18:45
From: Margaret Mfume
Hey, I'll be right back after I go to the ladies room.

*exits out the back door*


you have captured my attention Margaret

now i must find out what it is like to experience you

do you like merlot?
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Newfie Pendragon
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09-02-2006 19:01
From: Cristiano Midnight
Behind every great man, there is Cory Edo. I won't say what she's doing back there though.


Who's Cory Edo?


- Newfie
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milady Guillaume
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09-02-2006 19:03
From: Newfie Pendragon
Who's Cory Edo?


Ohh brother!!!! You are full of piss and vinegar tonight! lol lol
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katykiwi Moonflower
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09-02-2006 19:07
From: Moopf Murray
You know, for what it's worth in the dying embers of a cess-pool, I think you're the funniest lawyer on the forums. I mean, quite hilarious!
and you will remain, forever noted here for posterity, my one and only "MOOPF MAN!!!" :D
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Vares Solvang
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Alex is right, listen to her.
09-02-2006 19:33
From: Moopf Murray
Haha, whatever. This is a great example of why General needs to be dead and buried. Mind you, Ulrika should have been banned a long time ago. There's a litany of examples. Believe what you will.

You know, I expected more from you Margaret. I guess, as with many here, the attention span of a goldfish rule applies.



You're arrogance is amazing. Last time I checked this wasn't China. People here are free to say what they please.

It's called free speech.

Just because you don't like the things Ulrika says doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to say them.

It's called free speech.

You have every right to disagree and even disapprove of what she says. But that doesn't mean she should be prevented from saying them.

It's called free speech.

If she truly offends you so much, why don't you just put her on ignore and forget about her? That's what an intelligent person would do.

I don't like many of the things she says either, but I will defend to the death her right to say them.

It's called free speech.
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Sensual Casanova
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09-02-2006 19:40
From: Newfie Pendragon
What you have a history of is harassing and accusing creators without a reason. But then again, you clearly have a memory retention issue too, as no matter how many times people point it out to you, you go ahead and pretend your ass is clean.

Well guess what, I'll be the first to point out the smell emanating from you.

By the way, your two-month-old 'creator' alt never did reply, what happened there, did he dump you too?

- Newfie

Really like who? Who have I accused of what w/o reason? Can't you find someone else to troll cus you are getting stale...
Sensual Casanova
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09-02-2006 19:41
oh and dump me? LOL I have been married, HAPPILY, for the past 12 yrs, I am not sure what you are talking about.
Lirael Plunkett
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09-02-2006 19:50
I was bored so I thought I'd add my own two cents...

*drops two cents into the pot*

okies Ya'll can get back to what Ya'll were doin' :D
Lorelei Patel
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09-02-2006 20:00
Li!!!

Hey, WTF are you doing here? :D

Yeah, I know, I said I was leaving on vacation today. The ol' hubster is dragging his feet. But we're going right now. I promise. Really!
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vivi Odets
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09-02-2006 20:05
From: Vares Solvang
...I don't like many of the things she says either, but I will defend to the death her right to say them.

It's called free speech...


Problem is, free speech should go hand-in-hand with a sense of responisibility.

The "apology" in the OP is for starting a thread based on gossip, rumor, innuendo and the desire to stir poo.

And, that said, when can we expect the OP to begin the requisite "poor me, I've been vilified for taking the high road" thread?
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Margaret Mfume
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09-02-2006 20:08
From: Vares Solvang
I don't like many of the things she says either, but I will defend to the death her right to say them.

It's called free speech.

My favorite part of free speech is that people will invariably demonstrate your point about them much better than you could ever explain it, if only you can hush up long enough to let them.
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-02-2006 20:34
From: vivi Odets
And, that said, when can we expect the OP to begin the requisite "poor me, I've been vilified for taking the high road" thread?
Nope. I got played like a sucker and should have known better. I deserve my lumps on this one.
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Margaret Mfume
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09-02-2006 20:39
From: Uma Bauhaus
and should have known better.

QFT
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-02-2006 20:52
For God's sake, let the woman apologize.

coco
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Nyx Divine
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09-02-2006 22:25
From: katykiwi Moonflower
I support your protest of threats of violence against women, such as rape and death. Thank you for once again speaking up for what's right; your heart was in the right place.


No offense katykiwi but her heart was NOT in the right place when she decided to pick one person out of many and claim publicly, IN the forums, that this person MUST be the individual who threatened MadameG, with zero evidence, except there was animosity between the two.

As for the forum apology....it should be since she blasted Sens in the forums.

But I have to agree w/ Moopf...she's an attention whore......dunno why, I can only assume her RL is unsatisfactory for her in some way and so she attempts to act out here. Pathetic really.


And here she insinuates that she is not really to blame because she was misled......*cough* bullshit *cough*

From: Uma Bauhaus
Nope. I got played like a sucker and should have known better. I deserve my lumps on this one.
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Lost Newcomb
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09-02-2006 22:28
SenCas is completely innocent of any wrong doing, past or future.

Regards.

Ubar of all of Gor.
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katykiwi Moonflower
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09-02-2006 22:48
From: Nyx Divine
No offense katykiwi but her heart was NOT in the right place
I really think the passionate stance against threats of violence and harm to women is sincere despite the style of delivery.

Ulrika is our firecracker who can ignite us but she is human too. She was duped by an elaborate scheme to fool us all about matters that are not at all funny. Any of us would be lucky to have her as the eloquent advocate she is to speak out against issues that may threaten us with harm.

It takes a lot of guts to apologize to our forum crowd and I give her a lot of credit for facing more of what she had to know would not be pleasant. She could have just disappeared to lie low without offering an apology, but she didn't.

Owning up to mistakes, offering apologies and accepting the consequences of our actions shows what our true character is made of. I see a person courageously facing a mistake she fell into and offering an apology with grace.

I admire her guts.
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Joannah Cramer
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09-03-2006 01:43
From: katykiwi Moonflower
She was duped by an elaborate scheme to fool us all about matters that are not at all funny.

Wait wait, my script copy is missing a page... *what* elaborate scheme? o.O;
Gabby Lime
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09-03-2006 03:32
I'm sure in the (soon to be destroyed) hierarchy of this forum, I have no place showing myself in here, but I have a couple things I'd like to point out:

1. I read Ulrika's accusations and they were absurd to say the least. I can't imagine anyone believing them. Ulrika, you tend to filter the sorts of responses that get to you, whereas you might try being a bit more open to the general consensus of, "calm down". Don't make public apologies and don't make public statements that deserve apologies.

2. You talk about unheard of levels of hatred leading to those threats? Well, walking into them and giving it more publicity, if not starting it all yourselves, is what perpetuates it.

3. Everyone sees the problems of the forums, but really, who's to blame? Perhaps the egos having wars in every thread they can get their hands on? Someone mentioned Ulrika's inconsequentiality. Well guess what folks? Most of us don't think any of you matter. The only way I can see this forum ever working is if they got rid of all of the "big names". Let's just spell it out: You're the problem with the forum. This might seem a bit targeted, but the forums served a purpose that a lot of us could use, and we're not happy to see them go because a few people used it as a platform to be the jocks they never were in high school.

4. There are so many problems with SL and its management, and we had a great opportunity to voice our opinions, but those of you clamoring the loudest were quick to dilute your messages amidst thousands more that tarnished all of our voices.

Thanks.
Selador Cellardoor
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09-03-2006 06:23
From: Moopf Murray
I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire.


The superior version of this is: "I wouldn't piss in his ear if his brains were on fire." :)
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Reitsuki Kojima
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09-03-2006 07:04
From: Vares Solvang
You're arrogance is amazing. Last time I checked this wasn't China. People here are free to say what they please.

It's called free speech.

Just because you don't like the things Ulrika says doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to say them.

It's called free speech.

You have every right to disagree and even disapprove of what she says. But that doesn't mean she should be prevented from saying them.

It's called free speech.

If she truly offends you so much, why don't you just put her on ignore and forget about her? That's what an intelligent person would do.

I don't like many of the things she says either, but I will defend to the death her right to say them.

It's called free speech.


Are you cracked? There's no such thing as free speech in a private environment. That's one of the biggest loads of BS I see repeated as "fact" on the internet.
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09-03-2006 10:11
From: Gabby Lime
I'm sure in the (soon to be destroyed) hierarchy of this forum, I have no place showing myself in here, but I have a couple things I'd like to point out:

1. I read Ulrika's accusations and they were absurd to say the least. I can't imagine anyone believing them. Ulrika, you tend to filter the sorts of responses that get to you, whereas you might try being a bit more open to the general consensus of, "calm down". Don't make public apologies and don't make public statements that deserve apologies.

2. You talk about unheard of levels of hatred leading to those threats? Well, walking into them and giving it more publicity, if not starting it all yourselves, is what perpetuates it.

3. Everyone sees the problems of the forums, but really, who's to blame? Perhaps the egos having wars in every thread they can get their hands on? Someone mentioned Ulrika's inconsequentiality. Well guess what folks? Most of us don't think any of you matter. The only way I can see this forum ever working is if they got rid of all of the "big names". Let's just spell it out: You're the problem with the forum. This might seem a bit targeted, but the forums served a purpose that a lot of us could use, and we're not happy to see them go because a few people used it as a platform to be the jocks they never were in high school.

4. There are so many problems with SL and its management, and we had a great opportunity to voice our opinions, but those of you clamoring the loudest were quick to dilute your messages amidst thousands more that tarnished all of our voices.

Thanks.

Just an aside here.

You know what happens when you "get rid of the big names?" New big names fill the vacuum.

Not that anything has ever been done exactly like that, except in pogroms.

When you suppress speech, and silence those who would speak, it's an exercise you have to repeat over and over, because reasonable free speech cannot be repressed. It simply can't. The entire history of the world has shown that.

LL only buys itself time by retreating to the blogs and erasing everyone there they disagree with - if indeed that is going to continue, which it damn well better not.

The inconsequentiality relevant here is that of LL. They continually drag themselves into inconsequentiality by behaving if SL were their own personal playroom and they are only going to let certain kids in.

How can the modern world take seriously a service/platform run like a medieval monarchy? Or, to be less kind, like a modern totaliarian state?

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Gabby Lime
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09-03-2006 10:27
Cocoanut Koala, I've been a member of quite a few other forums, and through moderation and banning trolls/flamers, none of them ever got as bad as this. I like the idea of freedom, but between taking away everyone's freedom or just the people who cause problems with the forum, I'd take the latter. It's not like they're closing the forums due to your dissenting opinions. They're closing them because you act like a bunch of uncontrolled kids. There is nothing valiant in what you're doing, and proposing anarchy to fuel your ability to fill your life with e-drama doesn't really appeal to me.
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