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Resigning as SL Mentor..

Pendari Lorentz
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05-24-2005 19:50
As much as I love being a mentor, I managed to hold a clean record for almost 2 years till tonight. I'm sad that I disapointed the lindens. Though not sad for what I said/did. However, I will not allow myself to be used as a vehichle in any way to rant against the lindens. So, tonight I give up my title of mentor. :( I'm still here to help any who need. I truely love SL.. and all of you!! *hugs*
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Nolan Nash
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05-24-2005 19:55
Hugs Pen!

Don't worry too much about it, you're only one of several that got trapped. We see who is getting the suspension(s), and who is getting the warnings. So do the mods I would imagine. There was one week of relative peace here, now that has ended.
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05-24-2005 19:55
Alright, who's the gobshite idiot who's caused this? Let's get 'em! Ulrika, where's my pitchfork? Cristiano, grab the torches!

And what did I miss? Details! Gossip! Please!
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David Valentino
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05-24-2005 19:59
Awww...Pen! *hugs you* If there was ever a friendly, generous and caring soul walking the lands of SL, it's you! I'm sure you didn't dissapoint the Lindens. They thrive on strife and forum chaos...but have to pretend they don't. *ducks the backhand from Jesse..avoids the right cross from Jeska..and hops up on a table before Pathfinder can bite his ankle*

And you can mentor me anytime! ;)
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05-24-2005 20:05
From: Pendari Lorentz
As much as I love being a mentor, I managed to hold a clean record for almost 2 years till tonight. I'm sad that I disapointed the lindens. Though not sad for what I said/did. However, I will not allow myself to be used as a vehichle in any way to rant against the lindens. So, tonight I give up my title of mentor. :( I'm still here to help any who need. I truely love SL.. and all of you!! *hugs*

I know you've been very helpful. I hope this all blows over, and you take the mantle of Mentor again.
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Maxx Monde
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05-24-2005 20:24
Its ok Pen - I don't like that nutjob either :)

Whatever happens, at least you'll still be our sweet Pen-Pen. :)
Eboni Khan
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05-24-2005 21:00
Sorry Pen :(
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05-24-2005 21:01
This makes me very, very sad. :(

In all my time in SL, there are a handful of people that I know and that I feel help to make SL an incredible place and Pendari is one of those. She's sweet, considerate, strong, a great listener and loves to help. She's also muy sexxay!!! but, that's just the icing on an already delicious cake.

I'm bummed.
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05-24-2005 21:27
Awww Pen. *hugs you tight*
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Kate Hanks
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05-24-2005 21:40
This is truly a loss for the Mentors group. I don't know what happened, but I'm pretty pissed already. :mad:
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annie Lily
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05-24-2005 23:13
Pendari...... You are an excellent mentor. This makes me very unhappy..all I can say is...Pfft! ughhh gah, blehhhhhh on whatever caused this. *Big hugs for you and mean looks to whoever made you feel this way. :( *
Henry Hutchence
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05-25-2005 00:27
From: someone
Resigning as SL Mentor..

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As much as I love being a mentor, I managed to hold a clean record for almost 2 years till tonight. I'm sad that I disapointed the lindens. Though not sad for what I said/did. However, I will not allow myself to be used as a vehichle in any way to rant against the lindens. So, tonight I give up my title of mentor. I'm still here to help any who need. I truely love SL.. and all of you!! *hugs*


Pendari,

Let's set the record straight here before it gets hopelessly lot in a lot of emotional outpourings. In the course of my debate with another resident, you came in and insulted me rather viciously, out of the blue, not even being in the debate. The post got edited. Why? Because I reported it -- because I learned from all of you that's what I have to do from now on to survive on the forums -- it's what you do, and it's what I never dreamed of doing until the last week or so.

OK. But no one says you have to stop being a mentor or have to resign from being a mentor merely because your post was edited. After all, you didn't get banned or even warned. That's the requirement for being a mentor -- that you be free from bannings. So your resignation then becomes a puzzle, and even a drama.

You certainly weren't used as any vehicle in any rant against the Lindens. Who was ranting against the Lindens? Not me or anyone else in the thread. There was a very specific issue being discussed, it contained no rant against the Lindens whatsoever, but merely a request for statement of policy, but the discussion is over now.

It seems many would like to set me up again as a villain, hated by all, responsible for making even the nicest, warmest, cuddliest people lose their cool. But this was surely not my intention, my discussion was not raised out of malice, it was not done for any reason of deliberate harm, least of all to make someone have their "worst day in SL". It was merely my effort to deal with the "worst days in SL" that others have given *me*. Try to see it in that light. Please try to see it in that light!

When you vilify a person and demonize them, you forget that they actually might act out of simple and understandable and even reasonable motives.

By resigning from this post --- for no good reason that I can see and not at the behest of any Linden -- all you are doing is creating another more elaborate attack on me, trying to make the drama be about "even good people go down fighting the evil Prok" blah blah.

Try to realize that I want what is best for SL, too. That I have a vision, too. That I try to act on what I think is right, too.

I really do think there is no reason to continue with this drama, you should withdraw your resignation and go on with your business.

I really think it's time for this vilification campaign to end, and no, I don't think you should become part of it, just as you once helped begin it with your automatic siding of Pahoa Jade way back when. By doing that back then, Pendari, you and others helped this entire saga come into being -- unnecessarily. Back then it was about a new player holding his own against unreasonable personal attacks and a thread started to deliberately slam one individual and his work, and you took the side of that person sight unseen merely because they were your friend, remember?

I know you are thoughtful and can understand these things. And I'll bet you know that some of the people rushing here to support you now are more my enemies than they are your friends.

All of this could might well have been avoided if you had acted differently then, and now. And it is still possible to turn it around by not using this occasion to make a grand gesture, but just to realize that the mods are told us they are going to be pressuing hard for TOS enforcement against ANYONE (they themselves capitalized it to stress it) and there is no need for dramatic responses.
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Prokofy Neva
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05-25-2005 00:31
From: someone
Resigning as SL Mentor..

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As much as I love being a mentor, I managed to hold a clean record for almost 2 years till tonight. I'm sad that I disapointed the lindens. Though not sad for what I said/did. However, I will not allow myself to be used as a vehichle in any way to rant against the lindens. So, tonight I give up my title of mentor. I'm still here to help any who need. I truely love SL.. and all of you!! *hugs*


Pendari,

Let's set the record straight here before it gets hopelessly lot in a lot of emotional outpourings. In the course of my debate with another resident, you came in and insulted me rather viciously, out of the blue, not even being in the debate. The post got edited. Why? Because I reported it -- because I learned from all of you that's what I have to do from now on to survive on the forums -- it's what you do, and it's what I never dreamed of doing until the last week or so.

OK. Water under the bridge. But no one says you have to stop being a mentor or have to resign from being a mentor merely because your post was edited. After all, you didn't get banned or even warned. That's the requirement for being a mentor -- that you be free from bannings. So your resignation then becomes a puzzle, and even a drama.

You certainly weren't used as any vehicle in any rant against the Lindens. Who was ranting against the Lindens? Not me or anyone else in the thread. There was a very specific issue being discussed, it contained no rant against the Lindens whatsoever, but merely a request for statement of policy, but the discussion is over now.

It seems many would like to set me up again as a villain, hated by all, responsible for making even the nicest, warmest, cuddliest people lose their cool. But this was surely not my intention, my discussion was not raised out of malice, it was not done for any reason of deliberate harm, least of all to make someone have their "worst day in SL". It was merely my effort to deal with the "worst days in SL" that others have given *me*. Try to see it in that light. Please try to see it in that light!

When you vilify a person and demonize them, you forget that they actually might act out of simple and understandable and even reasonable motives.

By resigning from this post --- for no good reason that I can see and not at the behest of any Linden -- all you are doing is creating another more elaborate attack on me, trying to make the drama be about "even good people go down fighting the evil Prok" blah blah.

Try to realize that I want what is best for SL, too. That I have a vision, too. That I try to act on what I think is right, too.

I really do think there is no reason to continue with this drama, you should withdraw your resignation and go on with your business.

I really think it's time for this vilification campaign to end, and no, I don't think you should become part of it and fuel it further with this type of dramatic gesture, just as you once helped begin it with your automatic siding of Pahoa Jade way back when. By doing that back then, Pendari, you and others helped this entire saga come into being -- unnecessarily. Back then it was about a new player holding his own against unreasonable personal attacks and a thread started to deliberately slam one individual and his work, and you took the side of that person sight unseen merely because they were your friend, remember?

I know you are thoughtful and can understand these things. And I'll bet you know that some of the people rushing here to support you now are more my enemies than they are your friends.

All of this could might well have been avoided if you had acted differently then, and now. And it is still possible to turn it around by not using this occasion to make a grand gesture, but just to realize that the mods have told us they are going to be pressuing hard for TOS enforcement against ANYONE (they themselves capitalized it to stress it) and there is no need for dramatic responses.
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05-25-2005 00:40
Yannow, Prok, Carly Simon has this song that was a big hit...

Pend... until Prok posted I hadn't realized who this was about. I'm sorry you feel you have to resign, perhaps you would consider Live Help?
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05-25-2005 01:41
I knew it. The moment I read through the first two posts, I just knew it.
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05-25-2005 02:15
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05-25-2005 03:51
Hugs Pen....I hope you will come back to being a mentor.
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05-25-2005 05:27
From: Prokofy Neva
Pendari,

By resigning from this post --- for no good reason that I can see and not at the behest of any Linden -- all you are doing is creating another more elaborate attack on me, trying to make the drama be about "even good people go down fighting the evil Prok" blah blah.


:rolleyes:

I hate the forums sometimes.

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05-25-2005 05:28
Hugs Pen !

It's days like this I wish *shudder* that Korg was still around. I would pay to see the sparring matches that I can envision between Korgie and *ahem* someone else. Amateur.
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05-25-2005 05:39
Wow, I'm glad that record get set straight, because we all know nothing ever gets clouded in those diatribes.

Cristiano, I lost Pendari and Philip's cell phone numbers, since you have everyone's RL info through Snapzilla, could you IM them to me?

ARGH!

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Aimee Weber
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05-25-2005 05:50
Well it was a nice week while it lasted. :rolleyes:

Pendari I'm sorry you have to leave the mentors. This is truly OUR loss :(
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Catherine Cotton
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05-25-2005 05:54
It's becoming painfully apparent that the same old withchhunting mob is going after one poster again. It's ok to disagree with someone but its my opinion that this group is stepping over the line of what is in good taste, what is fair minded, and what is against the TOS yet again.

So you disagree with Prokofy Neva yeah we got that weeks ago. What your doing now is just plain wrong.

Take responsibility for your own actions, your own deeds and your own words. There is no villian here. If you disagree with a poster mute them or ignore their posts.

Lindens this is gang mentality is getting realy old. It's been going on since the begining of the forums. I hope that one day anyone can post their opinions in these forums without fear of a "certain fansite group" ganging up on members of SL that do not agree with their views.

I too have personaly dealt with this group many many times. Read this thread carefully you will hear it from their own posts.

Prokofy I may not aways agree with what you have to say, but I agree you have a right to say it.

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05-25-2005 05:56
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
Cristiano, I lost Pendari and Philip's cell phone numbers, since you have everyone's RL info through Snapzilla, could you IM them to me?

ARGH!

-Flip




*snort*
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05-25-2005 06:05
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
Wow, I'm glad that record get set straight, because we all know nothing ever gets clouded in those diatribes.

Cristiano, I lost Pendari and Philip's cell phone numbers, since you have everyone's RL info through Snapzilla, could you IM them to me?

ARGH!

-Flip


*cough guess prok wasn't so far off the track after all cough*
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Pendari Lorentz
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05-25-2005 06:23
Thank you to everyone who offered me kind words and support (both here and in world) over this issue. And please understand that I will still be offering help to new and old residents of SL for as long as I am here. *hugs*

I did not start this thread to create drama. I did it for a very specific reason. I screwed up and I am publicly owning up to my actions. I let someone get to me and when I should have just ignored them, I crossed the line and hurled an insult and swears. I was edited, and given an informal warning.

Based on the fact that so many have known me as a mentor for well over a year, I wanted to be sure that everyone knew I am now no longer in that position. I have severed a tie that can now no longer possibly be used to rant against the lindens if my future actions do not live up to the mentor standards. I do not feel I can represent the Lindens at this time until I learn to control my temper when it comes to certain people and situations.

I respect and admire the Lindens for all of their hard work, and I accept that what I did was wrong. So this is me holding myself accountable for my actions.
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