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Pendari Lorentz
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01-13-2005 13:20
From: Cristiano Midnight
Siobhan is taller than me, so you are on your own, Jauani.


She isn't taller than me though. Not yet at least! :p


*runs out to buy higher prim shoes*

I SWEAR I WILL BE 8 FEET TALL BY SPRING! :D
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-13-2005 13:20
From: Pendari Lorentz
Awww.. I bet you would eventually. I thought I was never going to "like" Jaunai (yes, I do actually not like everyone even if no one can tell.. haha), but I'm serious when I say I was wrong and that Jaunai is someone I *really* like now.

And hell, we of the inner core are *never* going to all agree or get along. We are too elite to care though right? hehehe :p


We used to get along just fine Pen, 'til he turned on Julia for an ill advised forum post and started throwing triple negs out. I reciprocated to defend Julia, Jauani reciprocated in kind on me, and that was the end of a beautiful friendship.
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-13-2005 13:24
From: Pendari Lorentz
She isn't taller than me though. Not yet at least! :p


*runs out to buy higher prim shoes*

I SWEAR I WILL BE 8 FEET TALL BY SPRING! :D


Yeah but I'm not scared of you.
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-13-2005 13:27
From: Pendari Lorentz
She isn't taller than me though. Not yet at least! :p


*runs out to buy higher prim shoes*

I SWEAR I WILL BE 8 FEET TALL BY SPRING! :D


7'6" currently Pen, you?
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Pendari Lorentz
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01-13-2005 13:29
From: Siobhan Taylor
We used to get along just fine Pen, 'til he turned on Julia for an ill advised forum post and started throwing triple negs out. I reciprocated to defend Julia, Jauani reciprocated in kind on me, and that was the end of a beautiful friendship.


I know Sio. It was what made me not like Jaunai initially. But there was a lot of stuff around Julia's posts. On both sides. Lots of heated stuff going both ways. Time goes on, arguments wear down. I dunno, I of course can't make you like anyone, nor would I even dare to be arrogant enough to say that I could. But, in the grand scheme, I think you could tolerate Jaunai enough that for our little fun group it would not be an issue. That is of course assuming Jaunai still wants to be in the group. :p

Hey.. If I can stand sitting in the same room with Korg because we are at the same event, then I think anyone could stand being in a group with a lot of people they don't like, but they are all there for a common reason. :D
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Pendari Lorentz
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01-13-2005 13:30
From: Cristiano Midnight
Yeah but I'm not scared of you.


Indeed.. at least not till I do my in world "hahaha" laugh! :eek: :D
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-13-2005 13:30
From: Pendari Lorentz
Indeed.. at least not till I do my in world "hahaha" laugh! :eek: :D


Oh god anything but the demon chipmunk laugh.
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-13-2005 13:32
From: Pendari Lorentz
I know Sio. It was what made me not like Jaunai initially. But there was a lot of stuff around Julia's posts. On both sides. Lots of heated stuff going both ways. Time goes on, arguments wear down. I dunno, I of course can't make you like anyone, nor would I even dare to be arrogant enough to say that I could. But, in the grand scheme, I think you could tolerate Jaunai enough that for our little fun group it would not be an issue. That is of course assuming Jaunai still wants to be in the group. :p

Hey.. If I can stand sitting in the same room with Korg because we are at the same event, then I think anyone could stand being in a group with a lot of people they don't like, but they are all there for a common reason. :D


You're right of course. But that's why I made everyone officers... it's OUR conspiracy, not MINE... I have no desire to be some all controlling demagog.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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01-13-2005 13:34
I wouldn't mind being nouveau-feted hedonist. Think I'll start a group.
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-13-2005 13:35
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
I wouldn't mind being nouveau-feted hedonist. Think I'll start a group.

You could adk Marcos about his Content Baron group...
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-13-2005 13:40
Bah, because, and only because I'm feeling nice... I'll send Jau an invite... grrr... Pen, you're gonna owe me big time on this one... lol :)
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-13-2005 13:42
From: Siobhan Taylor
7'6" currently Pen, you?

And Pen, you've still not answered this one ...
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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01-13-2005 13:44
From: Siobhan Taylor
You could adk Marcos about his Content Baron group...



I don't want to be associated with that mental case. He's clearly crackers. Not to mention a fuck-you-hedonist.

edit to add: I've heard that just as navy is the new black, the fuck-you-hedonists are the new fetid inner cores
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Pendari Lorentz
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01-13-2005 13:53
From: Siobhan Taylor
Bah, because, and only because I'm feeling nice... I'll send Jau an invite... grrr... Pen, you're gonna owe me big time on this one... lol :)



YAY!!! *big smoochies and hugs* :D


Oh.. haha.. I'm currently 7'3" without shoes on. Since I'm always wearing shoes though, I am usually at 7'6" myself. hehe :p :D
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01-13-2005 13:58
LMAO..Im in my own catagory its called Relic..LOL
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-13-2005 14:00
From: Shadow Weaver
LMAO..Im in my own catagory its called Relic..LOL


My birthdate in the forums does not belie the fact that I have been here as long as you have. You are in good company, old man :)
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-13-2005 14:00
From: Pendari Lorentz
YAY!!! *big smoochies and hugs* :D


Oh.. haha.. I'm currently 7'3" without shoes on. Since I'm always wearing shoes though, I am usually at 7'6" myself. hehe :p :D


I want them shoes then, I'm 7'4" without!
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Marcos Fonzarelli
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01-13-2005 14:17
From: Siobhan Taylor
You could adk Marcos about his Content Baron group...


Ah, it's just my ARMORD group. I just changed my officer title to Content Baron to go with my outfit ;)

I still think I'm feted enough to be a feted hedonist, despite my February '04 start date.
Lash Xevious
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01-13-2005 14:22
I missed that thread. *Sigh* I always miss out on the good ones. :p
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-13-2005 14:48
From: Marcos Fonzarelli
Ah, it's just my ARMORD group. I just changed my officer title to Content Baron to go with my outfit ;)

I still think I'm feted enough to be a feted hedonist, despite my February '04 start date.


Once we get ourselves organised and have a disgustingly fetid (feted?) inner-inner-core, then we'll be accepting applications from people who wish to join the consporacy. We don't even have a suitably conspiratorial anti-newbie pledge yet.
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Pendari Lorentz
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01-13-2005 15:29
From: Siobhan Taylor
Once we get ourselves organised and have a disgustingly fetid (feted?) inner-inner-core, then we'll be accepting applications from people who wish to join the consporacy. We don't even have a suitably conspiratorial anti-newbie pledge yet.



ooh!! I love Marcos!! *hugs Marcos* I first met him when he submitted 2 of his avatars to my Originals Only Auction (plug: coming back soon to a location near YOU :p )...

Alas.. with a birthdate of Feb 2004.. he is a middbie... so I would not vote him into our ranks.. BUT! haha.. would LOVE to see a middbie group join...

OR!! We can come up with a hard initiation ceremony to pull "middbies" into the inner core... I suppose in time we would have to do that anyway. lol ;)
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Kendra Bancroft
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01-13-2005 17:16
From: Siobhan Taylor
I want them shoes then, I'm 7'4" without!


You should join Neualtenburg :) All the tallest women are there!
Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-13-2005 17:21
From: Kendra Bancroft
You should join Neualtenburg :) All the tallest women are there!
Hey, Kendra! :)

I didn't realize how freakishly tall I made my avatar until I started meeting people in SL. I've been thinking of making a mini me avatar for special occasions. :D

~Ulrika~
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-13-2005 17:37
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Hey, Kendra! :)

I didn't realize how freakishly tall I made my avatar until I started meeting people in SL. I've been thinking of making a mini me avatar for special occasions. :D

~Ulrika~


Congrats, you have achieved Evil Genius status :)
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Prokofy Neva
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01-13-2005 18:19
Cristiano,

I didn't incite class warfare, I described it :p Don't shoot the messenger. There's a big difference. I saw it, and I called it.

There have always been different types of people playing the game for different motivations.

Read through all the howls from people who feel affected by the lastest economic changes and you'll see the class conflict in spades, and realize I didn't invent it. And the animosity to the "content barons" as someone called them (in a post in their defense) is not something I invented, nor was I the first or last to articulate -- just read all the other threads like "what about the poor" and "what about those who aren't creative".

People who don't make content, and buy content, are going to go on feeling short-changed in this game because it isn't a "normal" economy and because they came into it expecting to get subsidized as a class of consumers, and find themselves on a scant allowance while others appear to them to be subsidized.

For the record, the phrase was "inner, feted elite" or "inner, feted core". It was never "fetid" -- that was just somebody who didn't understand the word nor understand how to spell it. "Feted" means "celebrated" or "favored".

"Fuck-you hedonism" was an attitude sometimes expressed by the inner, feted core but not only them -- it's common in games in general and is summed up by the attitude: "I can do whatever I want on my land and fuck the neighbours."

This terminology of mine was hyperbolic, to be sure, and was meant to capture a type or class of older player that reigned supreme by virtue of abilities and talents in content creation. It's not meant as a slam on any individual, but a description of how a class behaves. I include club and other enterprise management in that category of content creation although it might be worth dividing the productive functions from the management functions.

What I saw was a company that feted that inner elite to the point where they became an obstacle to the game's own growth -- they were all howling and screaming at "land barons" buying and selling land and demanding to have incubated subsidized land for their wikis, and event subsidies for their cool events, and developer awards for their content. But the Lindens realize that themselves, and they ended the incubator program, they did not decide to go on subsidizing forever a subsidized project like Neverland (they never even said "let's try charging admission for awhile";), and they also ended the subsidy of rating changings. Ratings are collected by 2 classes of people: 1) those who go to clubs and suck them up and 2) those who make products in-world that anybody can click on, whether or not they are online, giving a HUGE advantage to anyone who makes a good product and leaves it out in the world (a person with a good service has an invisible service that can't be clicked on and rated, and is at a disadvantage in the in absentia ratings system.)

I don't hate the inner, feted core/elite although I will never gain admittance to their august councils -- I merely think they should sink or swim like any other business in SL, they should charge money for what they do, they should become less scornful of their customers and get feedback in terms of purchasing dollars, and if their stuff won't sell, they should stop complaining and retreat to their wikis on land that they themselves pay for at the initial purchase, and go on paying for in tier.

Everyone should get an equal playing field, and if some people are more talented than others at making objects, great, let them charge lots of money and get rich, and others remain poor, but at least they won't have an advantage due to any favoritism from the game company or any subsidies of any kind.
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