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I have returned my MVA for scripting.

Hiro Pendragon
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05-11-2006 11:21
I have returned my Metaverse Award for Scripting to Phaylen Fairchild.

I want to thank the people who voted to award me this, however, in light of events that have come to surface about the MVA's chief organizer, I can not in good conscience keep the award. This saddens me greatly, for my friends who were hurt, and especially for the people who participated at the MVAs for what was a great effort to shine light on excellence in Second Life.

I hope that another group will take the initiative to start another award contest, and I will pledge some financial support upon request for the next serious effort to do so.
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05-11-2006 11:24
It would be great if somebody continued with a new awards program. Travis Lambert, Katt Kongo, and Euterpe Roo come to mind.
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05-11-2006 12:24
From: Hiro Pendragon
I have returned my Metaverse Award for Scripting to Phaylen Fairchild.


You do realise that the prosecution's case has not yet been proven...

Lewis
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Hiro Pendragon
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05-11-2006 12:28
From: Lewis Nerd
You do realise that the prosecution's case has not yet been proven...

Lewis

The only thing that hasn't been proven is that only one person was involved.
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Newfie Pendragon
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05-11-2006 12:51
*yawns*

I too, have decided to return all awards that I've given myself, and shall sit here in a mock self-righteous indignation. I do this in protest of the fleck of dust that landed on my shoe and had the audacity to marr its leathered shine.

And may that be an example to you all.


- Newfie
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05-11-2006 13:02
From: Hiro Pendragon
The only thing that hasn't been proven is that only one person was involved.


No evidence has been given.

I received an email from [email]hiro.pendragon@hotmail.com[/email] saying 'blah blah blah'. Can I trust it? Of course not.

The above statement was fictional, by the way, to prove a point.

Lewis
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Gabe Lippmann
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05-11-2006 13:07
From: Lewis Nerd
The above statement was fictional, by the way, to prove a point.


This is clearly a ruse to obscure the dastardly plans you two are cooking up via frequent coded email transactions betixt yourselves and other SLers I will not name here.
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05-11-2006 13:29
From: Gabe Lippmann
This is clearly a ruse to obscure the dastardly plans you two are cooking up via frequent coded email transactions betixt yourselves and other SLers I will not name here.


Its so top secret even I don't know about it.

My hovercraft is full of eels. I repeat, my hovercraft is full of eels.

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05-11-2006 13:32
I'd love to run an awards program - just don't have time at the moment (focusing on my SL business efforts at the moment).

Although my SL business is not even close to being profitable, I can also pledge some funding/sponsorship for a contest/award. My only requirement is that the award itself recognizes the creator of an open, community-benefiting solution/approach.

While we are on the topic, what do you think of having a regular award/contest - something like once every 2 months or so? Things here in SL change very frequently, so I think once per year is too long - moreover people will forget a once-yearly contest.

-2fast
Caliandris Pendragon
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05-11-2006 13:56
What I think would be great, would be a weekly show in which people nominate the best whatever in SL, and send an example, not necessarily made by them. The display to stay up for a week, be voted on by some voting system which doesn't break down or only count votes with pie in them or something, and then elect the best chair, bed, attachment, dress, trousers, shoes etc.

It would need a sim with a lot of free prims to organise this, and a full-proof voting system, but I think it would be more meaningful than any number of glitzy awards. And when the best has won the prize, nominator wins a small cash prize, and the creator the kudos.

If someone with an empty sim really had the patience, he/she could gradually build up a museum of the best items in SL....
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05-11-2006 16:42
From: Hiro Pendragon
I have returned my Metaverse Award for Scripting to Phaylen Fairchild.

I want to thank the people who voted to award me this, however, in light of events that have come to surface about the MVA's chief organizer, I can not in good conscience keep the award. This saddens me greatly, for my friends who were hurt, and especially for the people who participated at the MVAs for what was a great effort to shine light on excellence in Second Life.

I hope that another group will take the initiative to start another award contest, and I will pledge some financial support upon request for the next serious effort to do so.

Phaylen has done nothing but invest her own heart soul and Lindens in to the MVA
She did not do any of this FIC stuff my how fast you all turn on her I would bet the real perp is laughing the ass off it6s not even as ifr the so called facts are facts, well I for one will put real world money where my mouth is a provide any any cash she needs to take action
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Jonquille Noir
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05-11-2006 17:17
What I think would be great is if people found another form of validation other than the high-school popularity contest disguised as award programs. If I get all of my buddies to vote, it makes my stuff better? Really?

Are awards and contests really neccessary? Do they improve SL at all? Not that I've seen. How about if people are just happy with being good, and not always focusing on being "good compared to" others?
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05-11-2006 18:02
I agree 100%, Jon.
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05-11-2006 18:04
From: Lewis Nerd
My hovercraft is full of eels. I repeat, my hovercraft is full of eels.


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2fast4u Nabob
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05-11-2006 19:15
From: Jonquille Noir
...another form of validation other than the high-school popularity contest disguised as award programs.


If you take a look at the result of the Box Office competition, you might change your mind. The box office addresses a real need in SL - charging admission for an event. The box office is open source so you can change it to suit your needs or just use it as it is. The competition resulted in a very impressive group of entries and an incredible winning entry.
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05-11-2006 19:31
From: Osprey Therian
I agree 100%, Jon.


Seconded.
Boliver Oddfellow
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05-11-2006 19:34
I dont know the full details and have not seen the full proof of the events in questions however I am of 2 differing points of mind. on the one hand I support Hiro and his decision to return the award if in fact Phaylen did this thing Hiro's action is an act of rightness and support of his friends and as he is my friend I support his choice to do so. On the other hand Phaylen is also a friend and I would hate to think she would do such a henious thing. If in fact she has then she deserves whats coming to her, if not I hope all are prepared to appologise. I to if she has done this, wil pledge monies on behalf of IMV and myself to fund another awards ceramony for next year.

Either way I read both those documents with much sadness, as I saw several of my friends get liberally trashed. Whoever did this I hope they pay the price. And to my friends who were besmerched please know your friends know the truth of who you are and we loves ya, and stand behind ya
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Hiro Pendragon
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05-11-2006 20:05
From: Jonquille Noir
What I think would be great is if people found another form of validation other than the high-school popularity contest disguised as award programs. If I get all of my buddies to vote, it makes my stuff better?

Thank you very much, I told exactly 0 people that I was nominated.
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05-11-2006 23:07
From: 2fast4u Nabob
If you take a look at the result of the Box Office competition, you might change your mind. The box office addresses a real need in SL - charging admission for an event. The box office is open source so you can change it to suit your needs or just use it as it is. The competition resulted in a very impressive group of entries and an incredible winning entry.

The box office contest was a completly different contest. It was the goal to create something that didn't excist yet in sl. And the person with the best entry got a reward because, his entry would become open source and second to get as many entries as possible. It wasn't a contest to find the best scripter in SL, and let people/friends vote for the person.


I second Jonquille's statement aswell. It would serve SL as a whole much better to find a other way to recongnise the people who do the things we enjoy. Maybe we should just give compliments more often.
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05-11-2006 23:52
From: Jonquille Noir
What I think would be great is if people found another form of validation other than the high-school popularity contest disguised as award programs. If I get all of my buddies to vote, it makes my stuff better? Really?

Are awards and contests really neccessary? Do they improve SL at all? Not that I've seen. How about if people are just happy with being good, and not always focusing on being "good compared to" others?

Well...I always see the contests of the show and tell sort as a more or less random assessment, and a bit of fun. The main good they do is to publicise what's available, and I would see the best of... idea as an extension of this. Even with a fairly defined category like "chair" it would be an amazingly diverse set of things which you couldn't really compare, but the show could have some real benefits:

*it would enable people who haven't made anything, but have bought lots, to enter a contest
*it would offer a place to socialise and have a focus for conversations and discussions
*it might give an opportunity for someone who is a great builder but has no money/land/store to publicise their work
*there would be no FIC nonsense - anyone who wants can enter
*it's fun! Not meant to be serious.

The result at the end would be interesting, but shouldn't mean anything much either way. I woudn't expect the winner to have a swollen head, or the losers to be depressed about it.

Oh, and it was only an idea....
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06-13-2006 07:58
What might be nice is something more like the Oscars, with a panel of judges, and...
Well, not just any judges.
There could be one person in charge, and every year they select a variety of people from different and diverse areas of SL, semi to high profile people who know what's going on around them, at least. people could nominate people for categories, and the judges would vote. It's important that they all be more or less seperate and not a group who knows either other on more than an acquaintance level, to keep it objective. It would make it less American Idol-y. Maybe even some new categories. Who knows. ^^
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06-13-2006 09:50
From: HallelvienLindsay Cleaver
Phaylen has done nothing but invest her own heart soul and Lindens in to the MVA
She did not do any of this FIC stuff my how fast you all turn on her I would bet the real perp is laughing the ass off it6s not even as ifr the so called facts are facts, well I for one will put real world money where my mouth is a provide any any cash she needs to take action
Lindsay Rodgers


The person whom I spoke to stated that I was not wrong, and the reason I stopped my earlier tirade was because of the thread it was posted under.

Kudos Hiro for setting a good example.
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06-13-2006 10:05
From: Lewis Nerd

My hovercraft is full of eels. I repeat, my hovercraft is full of eels.

Lewis


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06-13-2006 12:25
OMG Jon you are my personal daily heroine today! You are SO right.



From: Jonquille Noir
What I think would be great is if people found another form of validation other than the high-school popularity contest disguised as award programs. If I get all of my buddies to vote, it makes my stuff better? Really?

Are awards and contests really neccessary? Do they improve SL at all? Not that I've seen. How about if people are just happy with being good, and not always focusing on being "good compared to" others?
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06-13-2006 12:28
The box office competition was not a competition of the sort that Jon describes though. It was put on by the FFRC and had a panel of judges and whatnot and the judges were not part of the FIC and the friends of the judges were disqualified and the like -- great pains were taken to remove all possible stain of popularity contest from the competition.



From: 2fast4u Nabob
If you take a look at the result of the Box Office competition, you might change your mind. The box office addresses a real need in SL - charging admission for an event. The box office is open source so you can change it to suit your needs or just use it as it is. The competition resulted in a very impressive group of entries and an incredible winning entry.
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