Extremely Offended by Group Name Change

Shhh! You promised not to tell! Liarpants!

I personally think they should have changed your name to SLG. In the last two weeks I have had to report four of your people for griefing Real Estate Junkie, Castlevania:Legends. Jonathan Kivioq, You know this is true, because you witnesed the griefing by C. S.(Names abrev. to keep confidentiality per TOS) first hand. She was rude and just very ignorant. And before she tpd out, she took out her SLG issued weapon and shot both me and Susie. To add to the insult, not more than a week later while scripting and not paying attention to my screen I noticed that my screen was full of these ACME anvils. To my disapointment it was another SLG member, L. T. She thought it was "funny" to shoot anvils at Susie and I yet again while we werent paying attention. This group should be disbanded and ALL of its members banned permanenly from SL. It is a disgrace to lindens and the people to have a group supposed to serve and protect have its people running around like crazed lunatics. And yes I do understand that it might just be isolated to these four people. But growing up I learned that one bad apple... Anyways, a group full of organized griefers should not be able to carry SL in their name unless followed by G(Second Life Griefers)

Thank L T for your name change.

Hey Pete. You heard of what C. S. did? How about L. T.? When they come back form the corn field, Can you explain to them what a grifer is? Unless you dont know. Cuz it is very obvious you dont know what a griefer is. You hired them.
(Names were abreviated to conceal identities of PD members)
Please remove foot out of mouth when you reply. If you do.

i aslo have had dealings with one of these in a sandbox.
mentioning no names although poddle has mentioned it already.lol.
very rude and firing upon me.
fortunately i was wearing a very good sheild and they were the ones who left and went into orbit.
and i thought police needed a government. as far as i was aware i ever voted. so why police. we self govern. and if we do wrong mr/mrs/miss linden sends us away.not some uniformed greifer.

If that is all you have to be extremely offended about, you are doing well.

This is complete and utter bullshit and yall know it. From the getgo we've all be allowed to have SL be part of any group title.

HEY LINDEN LAB:
If you are gonna start cracking down on something this piddling then you should change EVERY SINGLE GROUP THAT HAS SL IN THE NAME OF IT.

Are you actually THIS paranoid??? Wait, I'm sorry I don't mean all of yall - since there's no actual direction from the top down at your offices. WHOEVER Lindie who BLOTTD this change: CHANGE IT BACK.

Or for the love of actually shocking us into believing you aren't doing this because of some random singular paranoid bullshit - CHANGE ALL THE OTHER GROUPS TOO.

I'd be pissed off as hell to have the SL Deaf Underground changed - oh yes I the fuck would. But see you whoever you are, really screwed up on this. But I'll be willing to take that hit for the sake of you all actually doing something that made some sliver of sense.

You targeting this group is unprofessional, unconscionable and extremely petty considering we got GRID ATTACKS and a KNOWN ISSUE list as long as Rupunzel's pony tail. Fuck me, but aint you got a bunch of other EXTREMELY more critical things to FIX and CHANGE then some innocent group bearing the abbreviation for Second Life??

1. Second Life is something people rally around and have put on their business names, group names and all sorta things. Its like me silk screening a buncha Tshirts RL with my home town's name on it. Ya got a clue now??

2. There are no Linden Lab employees in that group, There is nothing to say they are "impersonating Linden Lab employees" so all yall that spouted that crap on this thread need to think again. Do a search on Find Groups and just see what I'm talking about There are TONS of groups that are SL (group name) and the (group names) of SL.

Anying LINDEN is more official than anything SECOND LIFE. We all live and play in SL. Linden Lab owns Second Life. The freedom to create groups and institutions bearing the name of Second Life has been there from the get go. You want that freedom gone now, do ya?

Give me a fucking BREAK. You should be all behind me on this in support of either getting the original name back or having this Lindie whoever did this waste even MORE time running around changing the names of EVERY group that has SL in their title.

You know I'm right, and you'd be as pissed as the OP if this sorta shenagan went down on YOUR group(s) too.

This is blatant act of someone targeting one group over all the others based on formless forum bullshit crap that was spouted on another thread. If this sort of thing is policy then ya bettah ixnay all the other Justice and Political and Guardian type groups as well.

THIS is what I HATE the MOST about how Linden Lab "runs" they business. If I tried this kinda bullshit at my own job I'd have been fired by now.

CHANGE THE GROUP NAME BACK NOW AND GET YA BLOTTD SET TO FIX THE CRAP THAT IS REALLY WRONG IN SECOND LIFE.

I've been hearing a lot of negative things about SLPD and I am writing here now to define the falsehoods (Or truthinesses of them).

Firstly, there are fuckloads of greifers in SLPD. But guess what? We don't know who they are. Unforunately, we do not have the privellage of phoning 1-800-INVESTIGATE and getting a background check on every person we hire. I tell you what: if you're this paranoid about 'ohhnoes SLPD is hiring more greifers!' then maybe you should just check our members listing daily and let Peter know if someone matches your Global Semi-Terrorist Watch List, because evidently you've got one.

I for one am polite and collected when I confront greifers in the sandboxes (You DID know that's what we do, right? Confront greifers in sandboxes? Good) and they usually aren't even greifers. Most of them just don't know to test their weapons in the Weapons Testing Sandbox.

If you've got problems with people who are IN the SLPD, keep it with them. Not everyone in the group is like that (Even though there are a lot, I'm sure)

So, to keep you confident that we aren't trying to mug and/or rape you while you sleep soundly in the corner of Cordova (Because you do that like, everyday) just keep in mind, most of us are here to help. Well, I am anyway.

... I also have free teddy bears.

JaSatyr

If your PD griefers would stop attacking innocent people maybe you would not have had your name changed. Like I said Thank C.S. And L.T. hee hee. I for one am glad that SL was taken out of that fake front of a PD that you have. PD is a bunch of griefers and I stand by LL 100% and so does everyone that owns the Global Grief Banner from SLexchange.com Jonathank K. like I said before you were standing there when I was attacked. Thank you Linden Labs. I for one thought SLMPD was part of Linden Labs when I joined and didnt realize they were a private party. Most new comers donot know about the find system and wont know to read for the so called "we are not part of linden labs" disclamer. Thank you for removing sl from this organized griefer group. Youre an inspiration to all of us who are sick of griefers. They cost us money and time away from the best game to hit the internet. and the exbax, pea es 2, and atari.. LL rules.

ps- Thats a load of crap because Jonathan Kivioq was alerted about your griefer members they are still part of the group. He should have excersized his right to boot them. Please take 10 minutes to explain yourself out of that one

And please stop calling it SLPD. LL took that title away. They wouldnt do that to an honest group would they? Please explain why C.S. Shot me with a weapon given to her by your PD. Please explain why L.T. who grief in more than one occasion looked me and susie up in our castle in Plano(Which I may add...is huge) to grief us. Please do explain and please understand that its just Police Department now not the SLPD .

(Again names have been abreviated to keep their names away from the mob sick of griefers.)

If you are roleplaying cops, remember, I'm roleplaying a foreign ambassador with diplomatic immunity. Touch me and I will 'touch' back. Now get out of my way while I kidnap people and take them home with me, to meet with your president for a dinner.

Actually, LL is wholey in the right here, both by virtue of their ToS and by virtue of problems that it has caused (Again, I see reports about these "police departments" and a lot of confusion about them rather frequenetly in Live Help).

Darlin have you checked Find Groups yet?

There's still a TON of Other law enforcement groups with SL in front of their group names. And where does the line get drawn? SL Fire Department has been around forever too.

All I'm asking is if they wish to say target law enforcement groups with SL in their names - then chop them all out, not this one group. I'll meet ya that far on this.

Again, if there was so much "confusion" going on for so long, why didn't they announce it, or put it somewhere in the group making process that states something like: If you are creating a law enforcement group, you are not allowed to have the abbreviation SL in your group name etc

Its this unfair targeting, picky choosey, half assed barndooring that LL does all the damn time that pisses me off. Its like nobody ever sat down and tried to think ahead for a few basic "what ifs" and prepared for them.

Yep its exactly like that.

Chop out the SL from ALL law enforcement groups or bring back SLPD. End of story.

Don't call me "darling".

And nobody said LL have to be consistant. That's your own idea.

I'm fine with them applying the rule inteligently, as, I suspect, most of the rest of the grid are.

Are you ignorant enough to believe that? Youre PD group enjoys griefing people. Thats why. LL is not going to have a group like that have SL added to its prefix. End of story.

Geez Poodle, you're worse than the guy in the other post... what was his name again?

Anyways, I've had enough of this BS. This is seriously retarded, I just wanted to inform LL of their insanity, not to start another ****ing flame topic.

I'm retiring, BTW. I've given up on (SL)PD. It was fun while it lasted, but it's more work than fun now. If y'all like, I'll start it up again, but don't count on it... I'll probably help out a PD at my friend's new island (any of you seen Zephyr Heights yet?) and get them up to speed with some cool junk, maybe even direct it, but I just want to get the hell away from a huge corporation that half of SL hates (including some Lindens... still haven't got word from the Support email I sent... what a bunch of bull)!
But I am seriously sick of (SL)PD, the HQ is gone, the car designer retired, and everyone in it is leaving to (SL)MPD. Well, good luck with them. I don't give a crap, they can all go to Jonathan the Griefer (his files are not pretty... base attacks, chief assasinations... the list goes on and on).

I suppose you all get to bitch to Jonathan now, he's gonna be the new "SLG", thanks to Poodle:


Oh, and to all of you who bitch about griefers in (SL)PD, I did some investigation and found a SLDP (SL Dyslexic Police) with group titles made exactly like ours, they wear the same uniforms, everything... except they are griefers. They did a full-scale attack on our old station, even terraformed the land over the station and partied on it. So, if you're complaining about griefers, stick it up theirs, not ours.

- Peter Nelson, ZHPD Applicant

I also retired from the SLPD shortly after this change occurred. I tried to help the group, tried to cool the flames thrown back and forth, but it didn't work. So, yet another police group bites the dust. Perhaps a sim-wide PD is a lost cause, or maybe it's just been poorly executed all this time.

I just wanted to say that after going through some history, this name change was not unprecedented. I don't know if anyone here remembers the SL State Police, but that group really WAS a griefer group, and committed atrocities far worse than anything any SLPD member has ever done (the group founder and several other members of the SLSP are perma-banned from SL). I tried to turn the SLSP around, tried to change it to do real police work, but the damage was done and it fizzled. Anyway, the SLSP group still stands, but shortly after its founder was kicked from SL, the name was changed to just State Police. This was roughly a year ago.

Anyway, I think there's room for a police group in SL, as long as it's properly executed. And for all of you who are opposed to the idea, keep in mind that police groups have been around almost as long as SL itself. There will always be people who want to be cops in SL, and they will always form departments for themselves.

You just breached the TOS by accusing another group of things which are based on your 'investigations'. Since you're retiring and this is the Notices & Well Wishes section, I wish you and your pseudo law enforcement wannabes a good riddance. Don't forget to get a colonic irrigation while you're at it.

The tactics you described were greifing ones.

Your own group description showed combat intent, not just standing around.

There was no confusion.

The SLPD was full of greifers. Thankfully you are disbanding it. Good riddance.

man yall are nuts.

I can TELL you never bother to check up anything. SLPD or PD or anything PD is not MY group.

Why do I have to be a part of something to speak out against LL doing its usual bullshit?

The only reason this group was targeted was because of another thread. If they were so griefalicious, LL would a chopped them out long ago.

Oh wait LL doesn't DO that. So all your carrying on about that being the reason holds NO WATER.

LL can barely keep SL open much less run around worrying about who is griefing who and when and where. It was ONE employee who saw that other thread and did their usual lone gunmen moves. (and I have a pretty good idea who it was too - same old same old MO)

The issue is not even about griefing. I for one can't stand all that drama, but I won't stand idly by why LL keeps doing what their doing - because my group might be next on the chopping block - and yours too. ya dig?

No you don't. That's already been way established by now. And RK DARLIN - the point is they DONT apply things intelligently which is the basis for my ire in the first damn place

I've had my say here and you all can keep on keeping on like ya been doing.

I would say the name change was quite wise of them, actually, sorry.

Not reading all that. Too much a waste of time to hear the arguements.

LL is correct in changing your name. Any group/person/building/land/etc that uses "SL" or "Second Life" in it, is subject to such actions.

Why?

Because LL has COPYRIGHTED thier name and logo.!!!

That's right folks. That means you can NOT use "SL" "Second Life" "2nd Life" "LL" nor any other simucrum, in whole or in part. Doesn't matter if you say you're not affiliated in your description or not.

Legally, they could take you to court for the usage. They ae using a far NICER method and using the contract YOU agreed to. Namely the ToS. It's letting them take legal action without needing to go to court.

Yes, they -could- have notified you of the offense and -told- you they were doing so.

They also -could- have just BANNED you for violation of the ToS and been done with it.

~Jessy

Jonathan K. WAS standing next to C.S. when she attacked me. There is no confusion as to who the griefer was. It was PD not the dislexic group. I am glad you reisgned your post because you couldnt keep a check on your people. And am glad if it does get disbanded. I suggest that when you start your next pd with your alt you think on what you and your people did wrong and fix it.

-Poodle Noodle, Castlevania: Legends White Mage

There's a Second Life Air Force, a Second Life Navy, a Second Life Red Cross, a Second Life Crime Syndicate, a Second Life Internal Revenue, and a Second Life Community College, just to name a few.

coco

HOLE... EEE... SHIITE...

What the F*CK is y'alls problems??

Hell, SLPD is gonna be DELETED, so get your fat ass off of your chair, close the browser, turn off the computer, and GO OUTSIDE! It's a beuatiful day here in San Diego, and whether or not it is in your hometown STOP POSTING STUPID POINTLESS COMMENTS AND GO DO SOMETHING ELSE!

Yes, we all know you are a bitching jerk, you don't need to prove it by POSTING about something TOTALLY IRRELEVANT!

Jonas: How about a nice cup of SHUT THE F*CK UP? Everyone knows you just hate the fact that SLPD ever existed, you could be a griefer yourself for all I know, but I am sick and tired of explaining the same thing over and over again!
F*CK THE GRIEFERS IN SLPD! IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE!
And where the HELL did it show we had combat intents? Go ahead and Group Search "Police Department-PD" in group search, it will clearly state that we use NO WEAPONS, WE ARE NOT APPROVED BY LL AND WE REPORT GRIEFERS! THAT IS ALL WE F*CKING DO!

Cotton: Go ahead and shove it. Me and Felix saw them dancing with our own eyes on top of the station. Members of SLDP are attacking people like hell, they even take the time to attack US. Now why in the world would they be griefing if they plant BOMBS in SANDBOXES? Hmm, I wonder? That of COURSE is not griefing... hmm... what could they POSSIBLY be doing????

Brace: Thank God for people like you. You are the only person posting relevant info. I totally agree with you... yall's groups may be deleted next, just because Lindens find the letters "s" and "l" in, for example, "SOAD Lovers" (System Of a Down, the best band in existence). I mean, that is TOTALLY insane. SLExchange, SLBoutique, SL Everything... they're just fine, what about us??? Yeah, just go ahead and take us out of existence, incompotent bastards (excuse my french).

"Jessy": My God, you are just sooooooo stupid. If you took the time to read the other posts, you would have found SLExchange... blah, blah, blah... and they all have SL in their names. Now answer me here... why in the world would LL attack us? We are a totally non-profit organization, we get no money at ALL, not even a fine or anything. Now, let's look on the other hand... SLExchange is a huge in-/out-of-world business. Now, in my opinion, LL should slap a lawsuit on them quicker than you can say "bullsh*t". But hell, they just keep on going and going with no respect at all to helpless in-world groups.

I hope you take TIME to read all of the posts and THEN reply to this one HONESTLY and actually think about it before you do so.

In order for it to be a violation of the TOS the other group would have to actually exist.