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MJ Hathor
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11-07-2005 07:39
From: Moopf Murray
In the interests of fairness, I should point out, as Billy is using it to deflect Phoenix's post as being unknowledgeable, that you've been here even less time and, as such, must have even less of a handle on the situation and so I trust your view will be equally discounted by Mr Madison. Ain't that true Billy?


May I also point out that I used to be MrsJakal Suavage born July 2004 and I know exactly what is going on Moopf.
Moopf Murray
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11-07-2005 07:39
From: billy Madison
Thanks for you input moopf, now all i need is the rest of the group to keep posting in here like the thread yesterday. It makes it quite evident of your intentions when you sit on the forums for hours at a time refreshing one thread and commenting on every post. Thanks again.


My intentions? Yes, because I went out of my way to fake a death on the forums, didn't I! Silly me!
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Moopf Murray
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11-07-2005 07:41
From: MJ Hathor
May I also point out that I used to be MrsJakal Suavage born July 2004 and I know exactly what is going on Moopf.


Ah, I didn't know that. Alts. You never know who's who around here, do you!
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MJ Hathor
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11-07-2005 07:44
From: Moopf Murray
Ah, I didn't know that. Alts. You never know who's who around here, do you!



Its no big secret.... /140/f2/63735/1.html

Next!
Annah Zamboni
Banannah Annah
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11-07-2005 07:44
I dont know Billy nor have anything against him, but he would have to known that he would have gotten these types of responses. Best thing to do is to type up a notecard and distribute it to your friends. Anything else will be seen by most as unneeded drama and attention getting.
Margaret Mfume
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billy,
11-07-2005 07:49
A few more questions before you go.

What has all your roleplaying done for you? Does placing yourself as the center of attention carry over to give you a needed boost in real life?

Would all of the drama which you've generated throughout your time in sl be better categorized as fantasy indulgence?

As far as the interpretation that someone who avoids you is explained by their being scared of you, has this happened to you in other rl situations?
billy Madison
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Join date: 6 Jun 2004
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11-07-2005 07:55
From: Margaret Mfume
A few more questions before you go.

What has all your roleplaying done for you? Does placing yourself as the center of attention carry over to give you a needed boost in real life?

Would all of the drama which you've generated throughout your time in sl be better categorized as fantasy indulgence?

As far as the interpretation that someone who avoids you is explained by their being scared of you, has this happened to you in other rl situations?



I dont need attention in RL, i get too much in RL in my opinion and im actually a hermit of sorts.

And all of my drama? As far as i see it it has done both good and bad. I think some of the thigns i have done have made people think twice and relate it to themselves.

and i think jeska was scared of me because of rumors i heard from people that work with her, when i made that video she thought i was seriously in love with her. and i think it came off like i was stalking her because i made that movie out of the blue.

I hope these answers are good enough for you. I am no psychologist so this is much appreciated.
Elex Dusk
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Join date: 19 Oct 2004
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11-07-2005 07:55
So... you make a movie available on the Web about a Linden staff member, show up at her place of employment, wonder why she won't come anywhere near you... and this provokes you into quitting the game and faking your own death within the forums.

Jeska is very nice and has a brutal job. Why you feel she, or any member of the Linden staff, should be singled out for your abuse and amusement is beyond all reason. The Lindens are very gracious in allowing Residents to visit their offices, yet you felt that they had done you some grevious error and that you were wholly justified in your actions.

To return their hospitality with such a "prank" is extremely ungrateful. To blame a young woman for your actions is despicable.
Siggy Romulus
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11-07-2005 07:58
From: billy Madison
I know alot of you like sensual, siggy and moopf no matter what i will say it will never be right, i guess not, now is your time to turn against me and run with my flaws because you have people agreeing with you, and rightly so.
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Yup - exactly. But to 'turn against you' I'd have to actually have been 'with' you at some point - which simply isn't the case. I think it was just a lame grab for attention that you're milking now as well as proof positive of what I've been thinking for quite some time now - that you're full of shit.

In light of this I honestly don't see how anyone can give anthing you say even the slightest hint of credability.

You made your bed - and now you're gonnna have to lie in it - and to be honest billy there is noone you can blame but yourself.

Siggy.
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From: Jesse Linden
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billy Madison
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11-07-2005 08:01
From: Elex Dusk
So... you make a movie available on the Web about a Linden staff member, show up at her place of employment, wonder why she won't come anywhere near you... and this provokes you into quitting the game and faking your own death within the forums.


Jeska is very nice and has a brutal job. Why you feel she, or any member of the Linden staff, should be singled out for your abuse and amusement is beyond all reason. The Lindens are very gracious in allowing Residents to visit their offices, yet you felt that they had done you some grevious error and that you were wholly justified in your actions.

To return their hospitality with such a "prank" is extremely ungrateful. To blame a young woman for your actions is despicable.


Not the case, i think you missed several parts of my initial post.
Mulch Ennui
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11-07-2005 08:02
From: Elex Dusk
So... you make a movie available on the Web about a Linden staff member, show up at her place of employment, wonder why she won't come anywhere near you... and this provokes you into quitting the game and faking your own death within the forums.

Jeska is very nice and has a brutal job. Why you feel she, or any member of the Linden staff, should be singled out for your abuse and amusement is beyond all reason. The Lindens are very gracious in allowing Residents to visit their offices, yet you felt that they had done you some grevious error and that you were wholly justified in your actions.

To return their hospitality with such a "prank" is extremely ungrateful. To blame a young woman for your actions is despicable.


i have to agree, the tone of your video was kinda creepy.

if you and Jeska were in tight and good buddies, it would be one thing, but since you made that video out of the blue, then went to her work, it hardly surprises me that everyone in the building would go out of their way to insulate her from you, and breathe a sigh of relief when you departed and no one was harmed (including you)

maybe you said this elsewhere, but WHY THE HELL DID YOU MAKE THAT CREEPY VIDEO AND SINGLE OUT SOMEONE IN A WAY THAT WOULD MAKE HER UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN SHE WAS NOT YOUR FRIEND?
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Moopf Murray
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11-07-2005 08:03
Well the Jeska thing has a whole lot more history than a movie recently. Here's a post from January this year where he started on the whole Jeska thing originally:

/120/b5/33478/1.html

It's no wonder she ducked out of the way.
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Enabran Templar
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11-07-2005 08:06
From: Moopf Murray
Well the Jeska thing has a whole lot more history than a movie recently. Here's a post from January this year where he started on the whole Jeska thing originally:

/120/b5/33478/1.html

It's no wonder she ducked out of the way.


Exactly.

Thank you. I was starting to wonder if all had forgotten billy's stalking of Jeska from way-back-when.

edit: Including the boy himself. (I'm reluctant to ascribe the title of "man" at this stage)
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Mulch Ennui
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11-07-2005 08:08
From: Moopf Murray
Well the Jeska thing has a whole lot more history than a movie recently.

It's no wonder she ducked out of the way.


ok, after scanning a few of the Jeska threads and watching a bit of the movie, I am inclined to agree.

Billy, please stop posting and go.

we all forgive you, every single one of us, but you said your goodbyes, be done and be gone

live long and prosper

don't go away mad, just go away
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Jonquille Noir
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11-07-2005 08:09
From: billy Madison
I dont need attention in RL, i get too much in RL in my opinion and im actually a hermit of sorts.

And all of my drama? As far as i see it it has done both good and bad. I think some of the thigns i have done have made people think twice and relate it to themselves.

and i think jeska was scared of me because of rumors i heard from people that work with her, when i made that video she thought i was seriously in love with her. and i think it came off like i was stalking her because i made that movie out of the blue.

I hope these answers are good enough for you. I am no psychologist so this is much appreciated.


Made the movie out of the blue? You've proclaimed your wittle-boy wuv for her for months in these very forums, and had it as your signature. What exactly was 'out of the blue' about you stalking her?

Little tip, Billy... a joke is only funny until the novelty wears off, if that long. Months of the same old shit is not a joke, it's an obsession. Jeska has more willpower than I do, because I'd have shot your creepy little ass with a taser the second you walked in the door, then had security escort me to my car. Women don't think stalkers are cute. It's not a funny joke. Any rational, thinking adult should realize that.

If you have even an ounce of shame or class, you'll just close this all down and disappear. Then again, you've already proven you have neither.
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Margaret Mfume
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11-07-2005 08:10
From: billy Madison
I dont need attention in RL, i get too much in RL in my opinion and im actually a hermit of sorts.

And all of my drama? As far as i see it it has done both good and bad. I think some of the thigns i have done have made people think twice and relate it to themselves.

and i think jeska was scared of me because of rumors i heard from people that work with her, when i made that video she thought i was seriously in love with her. and i think it came off like i was stalking her because i made that movie out of the blue.

I hope these answers are good enough for you. I am no psychologist so this is much appreciated.

In our previous conversation you indicated that your participation in sl was roleplaying outside of your relationships with a small circle of friends and that it was not reflective of your real life scenario. Naturally, I wondered what's happened that you are now taking the drama scene to the real world.

I read and understood your interpretation of your San Francisco experience. Basing your conclusions on rumors, as you describe above, and using words like harassment and "being scared" sounds like your fondness for the drahma is crossing over to the real world.

Take care, billy.
Enabran Templar
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11-07-2005 08:13
Let's not forget this classic, either...

From: billy Madison
Are lindens allowed to date residents? I want to hear this from someone with some kind authority, like robin or something because I think jeska is just using policy as an excuse so she doesnt have to go on a date with me.


From: Robin Linden

You are violating section 5.1(iv) of the Terms of Service:

(iv) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable.

It doesn't matter if it is an employee, or another resident. This type of activity is not ok and won't be tolerated.


And, while we're reviewing the Hotline, this kind of, uh, jumped out at me.

From: billy Madison
Hello I was just curious if there is anyway we as adults can legally visit the teen grid? Is there an embeded journalist for the teen grid? I am really interested to see what kind of content they have created and such and to see if it is differant from our world, if someone was to provide documentation of a background check etc to LL could a one day pass be granted?


Interested in content, indeed. Maybe he was hoping Jeska was hiding from him in there. :rolleyes:
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Jsecure Hanks
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11-07-2005 08:14
From: billy Madison
I know this zap, thats why i felt obligated to explain a little more into it because there are alot of people like you, my email box has been full with why leave dont leave etc. I really appreciate you standing behind me. and i apologize.


Billy, I appreciate where you're coming from... It's bad when it feels like the world's on your back. Probably the Lindens just wanted to have a joke, I'm sure they didn't mean to cause offense. It's hard for them though, cause they're the authority, they have to constantly work on what is the right level between being professionals and people. So sometimes jokes on their part can go off not as intended, or can be seen in the wrong light. I'd say take this with a pinch of salt. Every one of the Lindens is a person after all, and also sometimes people play jokes on you when you're one of the pack, maybe they think you're alright :)

Just as the Lindens are people, so are you... This whole thing will come to pass. It's alright. Just don't make your mind up about anything too fast. Stick around for a bit and see how everything pans out.
Mulch Ennui
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11-07-2005 08:23
From: Enabran Templar


And, while we're reviewing the Hotline, this kind of, uh, jumped out at me.



at this point, it is probably best for the LL to notify authorities so there is a paper trail on file

truly frightening, and to be honest, billy, you should consider yourself lucky you were allowed to stay in SL, much less thier offices

I certainly hope LL hires a security gaurd if there is not one in place. Michael Linden may be buff, but I think someone licensed and trained in firearms and carrying high calibre projectiles should be employed at the earliest possible date
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Margaret Mfume
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11-07-2005 08:28
Btw, will (what you described as) your legion of alts have their own farewell threads and will they be satisfied with the lesser amount of attention generated in the Notices and Well Wishes forum? Or are they sticking around? I'm pretty sure I've met one or two of them and I was wondering who else might be leaving.
Aaron Levy
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11-07-2005 08:35
Billy's never personally offended me, and I don't see why so many people get honked off by him when is stunts aren't even directed at them. Is everything he does in good taste? No, but then again, neither is everything on Saturday Night Live, MadTV, HBO, Showtime or Comedy Central. Or any other media outlet, television show, comedian, politician, pastor, teacher, neighbor or friend. Can things go too far sometimes? Yeah, sure they can... but people still watch NFL football and listen to Janet Jackson. Life's too short to get your panties in a bunch over this kind of stuff.
Billy Grace
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11-07-2005 08:36
billy, billy, billy… I have not been actively reading the forums for quite some time and missed the drama but have some advice for my younger brother.

Stay or leave, it is your choice. Either way just make the decision that will make you happy and do it… no fanfare… no announcements on the forums… wanna leave, just do it… wanna stay… no need to announce anything… stay in whatever involvement level that suits you.

I fail to see why people have this incessant need to announce their departure. I have taken brakes from time to time and see no point in announcing my intentions, I simply do it and come back when I am ready. All an announcement guarantees is that it will create more drama and we all know that we don’t need more of that in the forums.

I will give you credit for taking responsibility for your mistakes and yes, you deserve forgiveness if you are truly sorry… everyone does. As for Jeska I would recommend that you take responsibility for that too. For a long time you pursued her waaaaaay too strongly… this goes back what… over a year if I remember correctly. It was funny at first but you never let it go for some reason. Perhaps it was innocent and you didn’t realize how it might be taken by Jeska but now it is clear that you went too far. Now that you know this simply put a stop to all of it, ask her for her forgiveness and show her you meant no harm by never bringing it back up. Movie or not my friend, you took it too far way before that in my opinion. Apologize and leave it be.

I wish you the best billy, we go way back and have never had issues. There is room for you in SL if you want it. The rest of us need to remember that we are all flawed too. There is room for all of us in this world.
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billy Madison
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11-07-2005 08:37
From: Moopf Murray
Well the Jeska thing has a whole lot more history than a movie recently. Here's a post from January this year where he started on the whole Jeska thing originally:

/120/b5/33478/1.html

It's no wonder she ducked out of the way.



Actually, thats not how it started out..

It started when jeska became a mod and started moving threads every which way and would close random threads, about the same time people were complaining because of consistancy.
It seemed like everyone of my threads was moved by jeska.. i could have posted hello everyone in the hello everyone catergory and it would have been moved. When she started doing that i would respond wtih a simple, "i love you thanks jeska" or something of that nature every time she moved one of my threads.

It's evident, remember we never had the notice and well wishes forum until i posted someone a happy birthday thread in the general forum adn she moved it, after i posted a ton of links showing her how many threads that were identicle that she did not move, a few days later they came up with the notice and well wishes part.
MJ Hathor
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11-07-2005 08:39
From: Mulch Ennui
at this point, it is probably best for the LL to notify authorities so there is a paper trail on file

truly frightening, and to be honest, billy, you should consider yourself lucky you were allowed to stay in SL, much less thier offices

I certainly hope LL hires a security gaurd if there is not one in place. Michael Linden may be buff, but I think someone licensed and trained in firearms and carrying high calibre projectiles should be employed at the earliest possible date



Oh please, you all are taking this way too far. Security Guards?? What the hell is wrong with that hotline? Judging from Robins response she didn't seem to find it alarming. billy has made it known for a long time that his fascination with Jeska is purely a joke and meant to be humorous. Just like bub, jack and philip have female fans that profess their love for them all the time....its all in good fun. Everyone jokes around on these forums at some point and it cracks me up how some of you that do are posting in this thread bashing billy for doing the same thing.

MJ
billy Madison
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11-07-2005 08:41
From: Enabran Templar
Let's not forget this classic, either...





And, while we're reviewing the Hotline, this kind of, uh, jumped out at me.



Interested in content, indeed. Maybe he was hoping Jeska was hiding from him in there. :rolleyes:



Now your going to say im a child molestor? classy.
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