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Gabriella molinari

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07-29-2006 21:22

Hi Everyone, it's Gabi and hugs to all of you

It's come to my attention there is a new club in SL called the GSpot. I don't normally post on the forums, but I felt compelled to let everyone know that ever came to our club this particular establishment was not created by BigDaddy Wolfe or myself.

I wish them much success in their endeavor, as i know how hard it is to run a club, but I also felt it necessary to let our G-Spot family know.

*hugs to our G-Spot family* Love you all

Gabi

Doubledown Tandino

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07-29-2006 21:25

Is that allowed? If there's a claimed established location with a name, can someone else come along and publish their location under the same name?

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milady Guillaume

Shhhh, I'm researching!

Join date: 28 Dec 2003

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07-29-2006 21:26

Who's going to stop it from happening?

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Kitty Minogue

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Join date: 1 Jul 2005

Posts: 123

07-29-2006 21:28

From: milady Guillaume

Who's going to stop it from happening?

the labi- nevermind I won't say it.

MadamG Zagato

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07-29-2006 21:31

From: Gabriella molinari

Hi Everyone, it's Gabi and hugs to all of you

It's come to my attention there is a new club in SL called the GSpot. I don't normally post on the forums, but I felt compelled to let everyone know that ever came to our club this particular establishment was not created by BigDaddy Wolfe or myself.

I wish them much success in their endeavor, as i know how hard it is to run a club, but I also felt it necessary to let our G-Spot family know.

*hugs to our G-Spot family* Love you all

Gabi

Hii Gabi

Did you try to talk to them. I know some may not do research before throwing up an establishment and may not have known that the name exists already. Your spot has been around for a while and I do not see how they could argue with you. Best of luck!
/Mad

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Doubledown Tandino

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07-29-2006 21:31

From: milady Guillaume

Who's going to stop it from happening?

ideally, sending a message to LL asking the new owner to change the name due to trademark violation or copywright infringement....

or, just IMing the new owner and mentioning there is already an established G-Spot, and that if they change now, it'll be better for both venues in the long run.

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Bigdaddy Wolfe

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I second that

07-29-2006 21:33

Not to say anything bad about the people that created this new G spot. I can understand that they did not know that the name G-Spot was already a club in SL, and thier reasons for making that club are way different then Gabi and mine were. Gabi and I just want everyone to know that like she said we have nothing to do with this new club, it isn't based on anything our old G was based on. I wish them luck and I hope it works out for them. Just know if it's not being run by Gabriella Molinari or myself.. it's not the real deal. It's a different club, different people, different theme, and has nothing to do with the G-spot family. Thanks for your time.

Doubledown Tennant

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Join date: 29 Jul 2006

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07-29-2006 21:34

From: Doubledown Tandino

Is that allowed? If there's a claimed established location with a name, can someone else come along and publish their location under the same name?

Good question!

Schwanson Schlegel

SL's Tokin' Villain

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

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07-29-2006 21:35

Where is the G-spot anyway?

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milady Guillaume

Shhhh, I'm researching!

Join date: 28 Dec 2003

Posts: 696

07-29-2006 21:37

I have an itch Schwans..wanna.. ohh never mind!

edited: i meant to say..i have a map... !!!

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Lupus Delacroix

Wyrm Raider

Join date: 3 May 2006

Posts: 695

07-30-2006 15:03

From: Schwanson Schlegel

Where is the G-spot anyway?

Most of us guys will never know, and that makes baby jesus sad.

Nellen Thereian

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Join date: 30 May 2004

Posts: 101

Gabriella!!!

07-30-2006 15:07

Hi, funny you should write a post. Just 2 days ago someone came to Passion Park and I saw a G-Spot title. I had to read about the group and I saw you were not in it, so I knew it was a fraud. LOL Giro and I really miss having you 2 and the original GSpot right near us in Cisco

Glad to hear you and BigDaddy are still around

Belaya Statosky

Information Retrieval

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 552

07-30-2006 15:08

From: Doubledown Tandino

ideally, sending a message to LL asking the new owner to change the name due to trademark violation or copywright infringement....

Actually, neither of those apply. Copyright does NOT protect the name of a business or product, it protects creative works. Trademark can protect the name of a business (among other things), however you do not get that for free and automatically. You have to register for it and it's not exactly cheap for the average person to spring for -- it'll cost more than the club will ever profit in this example.

So in other words, there's nothing you can do except speak to the person politely, explain your situation and hope to come to an understanding.

Schwanson Schlegel

SL's Tokin' Villain

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

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07-30-2006 15:11

From: Doubledown Tennant

Good question!

HaHa - I just caught that.

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Lordfly Digeridoo

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07-30-2006 15:53

From: Lupus Delacroix

Most of us guys will never know, and that makes baby jesus sad.

Wikipedia knows!

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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07-30-2006 16:16

The USPTO search for "G Spot" appeared to produce 35 entries for "G Spot" as a trademark.

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milady Guillaume

Shhhh, I'm researching!

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07-30-2006 16:28

From: Schwanson Schlegel

Where is the G-spot anyway?

Schwans..through, in, up a little..more...getting closer, deeper, curl around..to the right...no left.. right..in... ok who's got something bigger?

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07-30-2006 16:36

Moving to Bulletin Board.

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Einsman Schlegel

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07-30-2006 17:48

From: milady Guillaume

Schwans..through, in, up a little..more...getting closer, deeper, curl around..to the right...no left.. right..in... ok who's got something bigger?

Harder damnit!!!!

Newfie Pendragon

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07-30-2006 17:52

From: milady Guillaume

Schwans..through, in, up a little..more...getting closer, deeper, curl around..to the right...no left.. right..in... ok who's got something bigger?

For the cost of dinner and a movie, I can show you exactly where it is, baby!

- Newfie

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Usagi Musashi

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07-30-2006 17:52

Gabi you mean BIG D is back in business

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07-30-2006 18:06

From: Newfie Pendragon

For the cost of dinner and a movie, I can show you exactly where it is, baby!

- Newfie

Does it really cost that much?

Newfie Pendragon

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Join date: 19 Dec 2003

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07-30-2006 18:07

Ohhh and just to stay on topic, naming a club the G-Spot is neither copyrightable nor very inventive. Anyone claimin 'hey, there's a copycat G-Spot club in SL'....is themselves a copycat club

- Newfie

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Jonas Pierterson

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07-30-2006 18:24

Can't copyright the name. They are -both- the REAL g spot.

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Shirley Marquez

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Join date: 28 Oct 2005

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07-30-2006 18:40

From: Newfie Pendragon

Ohhh and just to stay on topic, naming a club the G-Spot is neither copyrightable nor very inventive. Anyone claimin 'hey, there's a copycat G-Spot club in SL'....is themselves a copycat club

- Newfie

Actually, you CAN have a trademark (not copyright) right to a club (or restaurant or other business) in RL. If you just have the one club, it only applies to clubs in the same city (or perhaps nearby ones); if you have a larger chain, your rights to the name could be regional or national. How "locality" would apply in the context of SL is an interesting question; is all of SL the same locality? Just your continent? Your sim?

However... under US law, trademark rights go away if you stop using the trademark. The original G-Spot club closed a while ago (more than half a year, which is an eternity in SL time), and thus has no ongoing rights to the name. Laws elsewhere differ; a notable example is the UK, where trademark rights last forever, at least for tangible goods. It makes the Apple Computer vs. Apple Corps case interesting, but that's a subject for a Sandbox thread.

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Gabriella molinari Registered User Join date: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 22	07-29-2006 21:22 Hi Everyone, it's Gabi and hugs to all of you It's come to my attention there is a new club in SL called the GSpot. I don't normally post on the forums, but I felt compelled to let everyone know that ever came to our club this particular establishment was not created by BigDaddy Wolfe or myself. I wish them much success in their endeavor, as i know how hard it is to run a club, but I also felt it necessary to let our G-Spot family know. hugs to our G-Spot family Love you all Gabi
Doubledown Tandino ADULT on the Mainland! Join date: 9 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,020	07-29-2006 21:25 Is that allowed? If there's a claimed established location with a name, can someone else come along and publish their location under the same name? _____________________ http://djdoubledown.blogspot.com
milady Guillaume Shhhh, I'm researching! Join date: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 696	07-29-2006 21:26 Who's going to stop it from happening? _____________________
Kitty Minogue drops it like it's hot. Join date: 1 Jul 2005 Posts: 123	07-29-2006 21:28 From: milady Guillaume Who's going to stop it from happening? the labi- nevermind I won't say it.
MadamG Zagato means business Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,402	07-29-2006 21:31 From: Gabriella molinari Hi Everyone, it's Gabi and hugs to all of you It's come to my attention there is a new club in SL called the GSpot. I don't normally post on the forums, but I felt compelled to let everyone know that ever came to our club this particular establishment was not created by BigDaddy Wolfe or myself. I wish them much success in their endeavor, as i know how hard it is to run a club, but I also felt it necessary to let our G-Spot family know. hugs to our G-Spot family Love you all Gabi Hii Gabi Did you try to talk to them. I know some may not do research before throwing up an establishment and may not have known that the name exists already. Your spot has been around for a while and I do not see how they could argue with you. Best of luck! /Mad _____________________
Doubledown Tandino ADULT on the Mainland! Join date: 9 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,020	07-29-2006 21:31 From: milady Guillaume Who's going to stop it from happening? ideally, sending a message to LL asking the new owner to change the name due to trademark violation or copywright infringement.... or, just IMing the new owner and mentioning there is already an established G-Spot, and that if they change now, it'll be better for both venues in the long run. _____________________ http://djdoubledown.blogspot.com
Bigdaddy Wolfe Registered User Join date: 9 Jan 2005 Posts: 4	I second that 07-29-2006 21:33 Not to say anything bad about the people that created this new G spot. I can understand that they did not know that the name G-Spot was already a club in SL, and thier reasons for making that club are way different then Gabi and mine were. Gabi and I just want everyone to know that like she said we have nothing to do with this new club, it isn't based on anything our old G was based on. I wish them luck and I hope it works out for them. Just know if it's not being run by Gabriella Molinari or myself.. it's not the real deal. It's a different club, different people, different theme, and has nothing to do with the G-spot family. Thanks for your time.
Doubledown Tennant Registered User Join date: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 1	07-29-2006 21:34 From: Doubledown Tandino Is that allowed? If there's a claimed established location with a name, can someone else come along and publish their location under the same name? Good question!
Schwanson Schlegel SL's Tokin' Villain Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,721	07-29-2006 21:35 Where is the G-spot anyway? _____________________
milady Guillaume Shhhh, I'm researching! Join date: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 696	07-29-2006 21:37 I have an itch Schwans..wanna.. ohh never mind! edited: i meant to say..i have a map... !!! _____________________
Lupus Delacroix Wyrm Raider Join date: 3 May 2006 Posts: 695	07-30-2006 15:03 From: Schwanson Schlegel Where is the G-spot anyway? Most of us guys will never know, and that makes baby jesus sad.
Nellen Thereian Registered User Join date: 30 May 2004 Posts: 101	Gabriella!!! 07-30-2006 15:07 Hi, funny you should write a post. Just 2 days ago someone came to Passion Park and I saw a G-Spot title. I had to read about the group and I saw you were not in it, so I knew it was a fraud. LOL Giro and I really miss having you 2 and the original GSpot right near us in Cisco Glad to hear you and BigDaddy are still around
Belaya Statosky Information Retrieval Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 552	07-30-2006 15:08 From: Doubledown Tandino ideally, sending a message to LL asking the new owner to change the name due to trademark violation or copywright infringement.... Actually, neither of those apply. Copyright does NOT protect the name of a business or product, it protects creative works. Trademark can protect the name of a business (among other things), however you do not get that for free and automatically. You have to register for it and it's not exactly cheap for the average person to spring for -- it'll cost more than the club will ever profit in this example. So in other words, there's nothing you can do except speak to the person politely, explain your situation and hope to come to an understanding.
Schwanson Schlegel SL's Tokin' Villain Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,721	07-30-2006 15:11 From: Doubledown Tennant Good question! HaHa - I just caught that. _____________________
Lordfly Digeridoo Prim Orchestrator Join date: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 3,628	07-30-2006 15:53 From: Lupus Delacroix Most of us guys will never know, and that makes baby jesus sad. Wikipedia knows! _____________________ ---- http://www.lordfly.com/ http://www.twitter.com/lordfly http://www.plurk.com/lordfly
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	07-30-2006 16:16 The USPTO search for "G Spot" appeared to produce 35 entries for "G Spot" as a trademark. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
milady Guillaume Shhhh, I'm researching! Join date: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 696	07-30-2006 16:28 From: Schwanson Schlegel Where is the G-spot anyway? Schwans..through, in, up a little..more...getting closer, deeper, curl around..to the right...no left.. right..in... ok who's got something bigger? _____________________
Zapoteth Zaius Is back Join date: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 5,634	07-30-2006 16:36 Moving to Bulletin Board. _____________________ I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say will be misquoted and used against me. --------------- Zapoteth Designs, Temotu (100,50) ---------------
Einsman Schlegel Disenchanted Fool Join date: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,461	07-30-2006 17:48 From: milady Guillaume Schwans..through, in, up a little..more...getting closer, deeper, curl around..to the right...no left.. right..in... ok who's got something bigger? Harder damnit!!!!
Newfie Pendragon Crusty and proud of it Join date: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,025	07-30-2006 17:52 From: milady Guillaume Schwans..through, in, up a little..more...getting closer, deeper, curl around..to the right...no left.. right..in... ok who's got something bigger? For the cost of dinner and a movie, I can show you exactly where it is, baby! - Newfie _____________________
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	07-30-2006 17:52 Gabi you mean BIG D is back in business
Einsman Schlegel Disenchanted Fool Join date: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,461	07-30-2006 18:06 From: Newfie Pendragon For the cost of dinner and a movie, I can show you exactly where it is, baby! - Newfie Does it really cost that much?
Newfie Pendragon Crusty and proud of it Join date: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,025	07-30-2006 18:07 Ohhh and just to stay on topic, naming a club the G-Spot is neither copyrightable nor very inventive. Anyone claimin 'hey, there's a copycat G-Spot club in SL'....is themselves a copycat club - Newfie _____________________
Jonas Pierterson Dark Harlequin Join date: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 3,660	07-30-2006 18:24 Can't copyright the name. They are -both- the REAL g spot. _____________________ Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
Shirley Marquez Ethical SLut Join date: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 788	07-30-2006 18:40 From: Newfie Pendragon Ohhh and just to stay on topic, naming a club the G-Spot is neither copyrightable nor very inventive. Anyone claimin 'hey, there's a copycat G-Spot club in SL'....is themselves a copycat club - Newfie Actually, you CAN have a trademark (not copyright) right to a club (or restaurant or other business) in RL. If you just have the one club, it only applies to clubs in the same city (or perhaps nearby ones); if you have a larger chain, your rights to the name could be regional or national. How "locality" would apply in the context of SL is an interesting question; is all of SL the same locality? Just your continent? Your sim? However... under US law, trademark rights go away if you stop using the trademark. The original G-Spot club closed a while ago (more than half a year, which is an eternity in SL time), and thus has no ongoing rights to the name. Laws elsewhere differ; a notable example is the UK, where trademark rights last forever, at least for tangible goods. It makes the Apple Computer vs. Apple Corps case interesting, but that's a subject for a Sandbox thread.

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